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Why are rape accussations on social media allowed in America?
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Why are rape accussations on social media allowed in America?
Isn't this slander?
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slander is not illegal per se
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Source on scene
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>feminism
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>>51510164
Yeah we shoudljt wait for evidence or be unbiased, it is really sad that the wor of women is not yet dogma.
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>>51510164
Oh shot she even said it doesnt matter if shes lying or not, we should still believe her. Man its so sad that these people grow in number every day and it freightens me
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>>51510827
>>51511162
post scat webms
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>>51509887
freedom of speech faggot, you'd arrested and sent to reeducation camp in syria
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>>51509887
She's a lot stronger and taller than James Deen, which is interesting. She could suplexed him if she wanted.
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To me this sounds like a big circus.

The already made the money they can make from porn, and got the attention they could from it.

So why not trying having a bigger public persona?
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>>51509887
Pic related is why they're allowed.
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>>51509887
So.... does anyone know what's that scene where Stoya gets """"""raped"""""?
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>>51509887
whats this new shitstorm thats brewing?
let me guess... they made a few films then started dating for, like, forever (2months) and when they broke up she remembered the repressed memories of her being raped again and again and now the patriarchy is empowering the villain rapist?
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>>51512261
The joke is that the the guy is a vocal
>male feminist
so SJWs can't decide who to hate here.
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>>51509887
When it comes to rape accusations in the west we now go by "guilty until proven innocent". Asking for facts and doubting the prosecutor is shamed as the victim/oppression narrative goes full force. I hope this doesn't become an international phenomenon but it seems like so many countries want to copy-paste aspects of western culture.
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>>51512354
i thought in their books unless you have a vagina that was raped/ almost raped you dont count as a true feminist. and this event only seems to confirm that the patriarchy can come in disguise to invade their collective coochie and oppress their collective minds by infiltrating the Khala and subduing them from within... oh wait wrong franchise there
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>>51509887
it saddens me that manson sunk that low
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>>51512354
James Deen is also a jew but I don't think porn actresses would give a shit if they're trying to ruin his life
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>an woman talking shit about her ex-bf
the only difference is in this particular situation she couldn't go with the "his dick is really small" so she went with "he totally raped me, you guys"
pathetic
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>>51512044
THIS. NOW.
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there is quite a few stoya x deen scenes and they would have cut that part out
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Wait so what is the context here?
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>>51512044
pretty sure that's not a scene. this probably happened during their private time. off camera.

also why is "rape" in quotes? what she described, if true, is certainly rape. no two ways about it
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>>51510164
I love how feminists talk like they're in the mafia or something. "I surely hope you're being sincere.. for your sake"
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>>51510164
Gabby Dunn is a bitch from Buzzfeed btw
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JUST
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>>51512724

It really has transitioned into that hasn't it?

So many rape stories seem to come from ex girlfriends multiple months or even years after the event, and it always seems to be announced over social media instead of in a perhaps a police report.

Like that one mattress girl, this reeks of publicity stunt.
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>safeword
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>>51515264
>Deen suggested she should claim that he reminded her of her brother.
lmao lad this guy is creepy as fuck. wouldn't be surprised if these allegations turn out to be true. he does seem rapey in his videos ngl
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>>51514984

Oh, in some places it is very much a mafia. My friend's off campus house was vandalized with spray paint and they received multiple online threats after having a party with "patriarchal" innuendo out front, on their own property.
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>>51510164
>men and women are equal!
>that's what muh real feminism is about!
>btw presumption of innocence doesn't apply to women xDDDD
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>>51509887
A-a-and I'll never fap to Stoyas vids again. Can I get a refund? I want all the semen I've spent on her back.
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>>51509887
whao she has no tits and she is a porn actress,mindblown
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>>51515510
>"patriarchal" innuendo

Oppressed by a garden gnome? What was it?
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Do they not realize how big of an impact a rape accusation can have on a man's life?

If you didn't go to the police straight after it wasn't fucking rape because you know when you're been raped then and there. Go to the hospital and get a rape kit. If you didn't do that then you might as well just admit that it's bullshit upfront.
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>>51515277
>>51515264
Smells like lying cunts 2bh
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>>51515844
Most people like their women to look like 10 year old boys for some reason. It's why there's so many weaboos.
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>>51510164
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>stoya
>where have i seen this name before
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQuT-Xfyk3o
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>>51515928

"Daughter Daycare"

I no longer give feminists a single shred of credence
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>>51515945
>Do they not realize how big of an impact a rape accusation can have on a man's life?
obviously not they're the most protected creatures on earth
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>>51516110
>daughter daycare

ayy, that's skeezy as fuck, your friend sounds like a drug dealer
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>>51516110
>"Daughter Daycare"

lel its a brave new world
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>believing a attention whoring
>ever
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>>51516206

It's a joke. It was a house party. Everyone was in swimsuits out front drinking and enjoying themselves, girls included.

This country is truly dying
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>stoya
enough of this meme t/b/h, no need to give more attention to an attention whore
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>>51516133
I just can't imagine why anybody would lie about something like that no matter how vengeful and knowing damn well people would take their word.

It's so sadistic. Its sickening really. I've been fucked over a lot and not once have I ever thought "hey you really suck let me destroy your life with a baseless accusation that gullible people buy into".

Especially throwing it out there on the internet for thousands of people to see.

Feminists want us to be equal but want to put kiddy gloves on us and make accusations unquestionable? Twats
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>>51516206
Go back to reddit or tumblr faggot
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>>51515945
Yea but males have so much privilege every little thing we can do to smash the patriarchy is good
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What is your safeword /int/?
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>>51515264
I was raped by James Deen too
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>>51516847
Chrząszczyrzewoszyce
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>>51516847
nigger
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>>51516824
>still not knowing women are the most privileged on the planet

The greatest lie they ever convinced the world of
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>>51516941
powiat Lekolody
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>>51517029
>Lekolody
Łękołody
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>>51517057
lazy to type that with an american keyboard lad
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>>51515277
Fuck, I know a girl who did exactly that, to a guy who dated her when they were fucking 16

Of course she never reported him, but the social media shitstorm was horrendous
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>>51517091
we use qwerty keyboards too m8
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>>51516847
it's antisemitic
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>>51509887
It probably is illegal, but most lawyers will inform you that if it's not having any actual effect on you, it's a waste of time and, seeing as how most lawyers have two braincells to rub together unlike most of /v/, /tv/ and /pol/, will inform you it's actually playing into their hands because attention is what they want.
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>>51510164
>its more important for me to protect faceless people than my own friend
Are women traitors by nature?
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>>51516847
kanker
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>>51509887
Slander/Libel must be untrue, proven that the slanderer knew it was a lie, and still said it with intent to harm.

Very hard to prove.
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>>51517119
but yours has the diacritics on the keyboard, while I have to copy-paste from wikipedia or something since I don't have Polish installed
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>>51516847
ALLAHU ACKBAR
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I hate James Deen and can't watch anything that he's in, but I seriously doubt this whole thing is true. If it is, hopefully he gets less work.
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>>51517233
>I don't have Polish installed
Why not
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The only James Dean I know is dead.

Who the fuck is this guy?
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>>51516847
Interracial BBC

Why don't people just say, "Stop"?
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>>51517454
Because it might be part of roleplay
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>>51516847
God is a Serb, Kosovo je Srbija
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>>51517449
He's in every other porno you've seen. He's a scrawny manlet that ruins every scene that he's in.
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>>51517406
trying to keep my number of languages down
polish and portuguese are the only decent languages i don't have installed
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>>51515264
Wouldn't be surprised. The guy has dead eyes.

Jessie Rogers quit porn after being beaten by a porn actor. She said he was banging her head against hardwood floor until she started bleeding, choked her to the point of fainting and drowned her in a toilet bowl. She never named the guy, but she did mention the hardwood floor and one of her last scenes is a rough one with James Deen in an apartment with hardwood floor.
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>>51517529
Why did you even learn Polish
Just because your flag is white red doesn't make you Polish
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>>51517660
>Why did you even learn Polish
didn't lad, i'm learning Spanish. Polish is a good language though
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>>51515264
Can someone add the hair? It's only right.
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>>51510164
That was similar to the fallout for the "Cards Against Humanity" rape allegation.

I can't be bothered to remember the guy's name, but one of the founding members of the game was accused (years or months after the fact, mind you) of raping some girl.

When he wrote an op-ed to defend himself, and evidence emerged that he didn't do it, he was villianized by feminists for "wasting his time defending himself instead of using his platform to speak out against rape".

There is literally no way to engage with these insane progressives in a society grounded in Enlightenment values.
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>>51517161
Not all women, but female social hierarchies are notoriously backstabby and catty. If you don't believe me, go work as seasonal help at any retail store, wherein 50 percent of the women are workers. Everyone loves each other to their faces, but talks mad shit behind each others backs. Everyone has a new "best friend" every week, and everyone is insanely petty and cliquish.
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>>51517698
So how did you know what I was posting about
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Progressive leftists are mentally ill.
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>>51517790
>70% of students on my faculty are women
>half the men are gay/feminine
Kill me, lad.
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>>51517796
Watched the film lad
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>>51517936
Nursing?
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>>51518123
Based, but I don't think it's real.
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>chastise white men for putting their knees too far apart on public transport
>let muslims get away with child rape for over a decade
Can't make this up.
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>>51518277
>Islamophobia
fucking triggered tbqh, I had a teacher (he's a Jew, if that matters) who kept whining about how Islamophobia is the cause of terrorism in class
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>mfw a women hate thread not even on r9k
today was a good day
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>>51510164
>I retracted my previous statement of disregarding Stoya wherein she believed that she had falsely been accused of being the one percent within the one percentile of sex workers who have been raped and while I agree with victims and believe that victims should be believed I do not believe my original statement was correct in that I do not feel it is necessary

All I got from that. Guess women are right, men don't understand them.
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>>51515844
She's half Serb they probably pittied her.
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>>51518416
>woman hate

We don't hate women, most of us here are >tfwnogf, it's just that feminists with their absurd logic manage to trigger us.
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>our ancestors let women vote and we can't undo it
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>>51518610

Fuck off with that photoshopped shite...
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>“He’s entitled to defend himself to the world, Mr. Murphy; he’s not entitled to do it to me.”

“No matter what you say about or to him?” Mr. Murphy asked.

“Not to me,” she said.

>Feminists
http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/christie-blatchford-the-twitter-trial-of-gregory-elliott-is-becoming-much-like-twitter-itself-shrill-and-uber-sensitive
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>>51511870
Can't see shit.
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>>51518416
Nah it's not woman hate. I'm a woman and I posted in this thread a few times. Rape is a big accusation and these are well known sex workers so of course this would be discussed. Stoya brought this to the public but so far no evidence or police reports have been found. You shouldn't be able to say something is true without proof and destroy somebody's career and personal life.

This could happen to any man and it's it's unrealistic to say otherwise.
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He's screwed.
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>>51518925
Guilty or not, it's ogre for him.
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Who gives a fuck
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>>51518977
We all watch a lot of porn. We'll never have gfs, so it's a big part of ours lives.
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>>51518865
200 years tends to do that to written documents. Still in better shape than the Declaration of Independence, though.
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>>51509887
>>51511250

It's illegal, but the US has retarded rape laws so he'd have to go through a long legal process to prove no rape occurred before he can sue for libel, which would more or less bankrupt him.
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>>51519141
So in the US "innocent until proven guilty" means nothing when it's a rape accusation?
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>>51518925
>he's dead on the inside
>says the kike whore who gets her ass fisted for money

lol
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Fuck James Deen. He's an amateur, and the rumors probably have some truth in them.

Manuel Ferrara is where it's at. That's a quality male porn actor. Watch his Raw series, and you'll learn everything you need to become a Master Cocksman.
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>>51519141
I don't think your laws are much better with this >>51518673 going on right now.
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>Caring about whores
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>>51519192

It does, nominally, but progressives have fucked the entire system up lately when it comes to shit like rape. Blame the feminists, as per usual.

>>51519223

I never said Canada wasn't fucked up either, Guthrie should be hanged from a post in Dundas Square for what she's done.
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>>51518898
Uhhh will you be my gf
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>>51519212
Rocco Siffredi, what a fucking legend!
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>>51519212
Johnny Castle is my favorite. I wish he just filmed everything. I absolutely CANNOT watch anything with Jesse Jones. He's a scrawny little manlet with a fucked up face. No idea how he gets work when there are much better talents.
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>>51519315
What I dislike about american porn is always
>tall
>white
>huge cock
male actors. how about something more normal that represents the people? seriously, it fucks with young boys heads so much that they start thinking they need to have a huge cock to please a woman.
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>>51519192
Legally you are innocent until proven guilty, that don't mean people may have a different opinion. Opinions aren't the law.
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>virgin
>don't talk to girls
>keep to myself

Glad I'll never have to go through this shit. I haven't been in a single girls room.
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Deen got dropped from a few porn sites.
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>>51519580
Got new spells yet?
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>>51519580
Yeah, me neither. That actually makes me feel sad now that you've put it that way. 22 years old.
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>>51519392
all pornstars are manlets and womanlets
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>>51519270
>Guthrie should be hanged from a post in Dundas Square for what she's done

I'm so thoroughly confused about this even going to trial. Like, HOW can this even go to trial? Wouldn't the prosecution just look at this and think "wow, total political bullshit with no harassment to speak of" and just conclude that there to be no basis to proceed on?
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>>51518898
Based af.
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>>51519769

Because under law, harassment is based on whether or not they felt harassed by the actions of another. It likely won't go through to conviction, but the trial was enough to destroy the man. Plus, she has police connections.
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>>51519392
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>>51519418
Whether someone committed a crime or not is not a matter of opinion.
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>>51518925
I bet this is fucking whore is is just planning to steal his lemons again

https://youtu.be/WGz9QmirLBE
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>>51515591
>haha if a woman accuses a man of rape, he is guilty-until-proven-innocent so that women's feelings don't get hurt by the inference that some of them are lying cunts

Every day I hate Canadians a little more.
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>>51516847
saippuakivikauppias

it is also a palindrome
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>>51516847
"niggers are alright"
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>>51519842
How does one prove "feelings"? They can't be measured, quantified, or recorded. Also, how does one person's entirely personal, 100 percent subjective experience become the responsibility of another party? What kind of dummy-logic even entertained this bizarre kind of legal precedent? How can anyone be intelligent enough to get through law school and then not see the conflict with due process?

What's to say that a guy driving by in a car with some vulgar rap playing isn't "triggering" and therefore the foundation for a suit?

I guess I'm just frustrated that there is even a conversation going on about this. This kind of perp-walking makes any kind of accusation into a social blacklisting.
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>>51519986
???
I have no idea what this thread is actually about but don't you and canada express the same thing?
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>>51519842
I actually read the testimony on this case. Guthrie comes across as narcissistic, arrogant, and delusional. She actually thinks she should be held to a different standard than everyone else. It's also clear that she and her friends harassed Elliot and not the other way around. People like Guthrie are truly terrifying.
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>>51516110
>"Daughter Daycare"
Well, that sounds creepy as fuck...
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>>51520105

The crown says they don't believe she ever felt harassed, but they still gotta have a trial anyways, and yeah, it's very subjective, though proving that you felt harassed is fairly difficult under law unless you can prove that they sought you out solely to harass you.
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>>51516847
Basarabia, pamant romanesc!
XD
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>>51520110
He's a potato nigger. It's to be expected he was get confused and lash out while proclaiming 'Muh potatoes. Muh potatoes mothafucka'
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>>51520185
Can he sue for defamation, or is it simply not worth it at this point?

Anyway, the rage is just making me type now. I know exactly how these smug progressive cunts operate. Even when he is acquitted, she's probably get several thousand dollars to post articles about her experience in the Guardian, Salon, and Think Progress. Every bit of publicity, no matter how damning or insane it is to their cause, just strengthens their victim complex.
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>>51518655
don't let your dreams be dreams
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>>51520427

Dunno, he should be able to, but this is a crown prosecution so I'm not sure.
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>>51520427
She already has a solid career and a bit of political influence in Toronto, that's why she was able to do this.
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>>51520748
Only in Progressive hellholes like Toronto and San Francisco could something like this even be entertained in a court of law. I fucking hate how this intersectionality nonsense has been given some special ticket to knock bricks out of the foundations of liberal Western legal systems.

It's funny as fuck. 10 years ago everyone would have labeled me as some kind of leftist, but as time goes on the left goes further and further off the reservation. Even though my views haven't changed much, I'm considered solidly "right" by any modern colloquial application of the word (or at least by North American political discourse).

I'm kind of happy to know that i'll be dead before I see liberalism collapse under its own hypocrisy and insanity. I give it 2 generations before the system becomes a progressive-authoritarian shithole, and if it doesn't I give it 4 generations until islamism.
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>>51518610
>all male authors on right

So much mansplaining
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>>51521042
>Only in Progressive hellholes like Toronto

This has brought about outrage here too, but in case you haven't noticed, all western governments are beholden to special interests not its people.
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>>51519392
Porn in general can teach unsafe sexual practices. But yes, porn gives unrealistic and unhealthy examples of both male and female bodies. So many guys seem to be ashamed of having normal sized penises.
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>>51517454
because you don't cry "stop fucking me so hard you fucking retard you're hurting me" while you're filming a porn scene
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>>51522100
What is editing.

We're also talking about personal safewords, not just in porn.
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>>51519315

The down syndrome guy with the 5 incher? i literally can't watch anything he's in
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>>51522166
Yes, him. I'm super pissed he did a scene with Remy Lacroix. She's my favorite pornstar and I can't watch it.
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>>51521668
>are beholden to special interests not its people

I think the difference this time around is the lack of money. Special interests usually implies $$$, but I don't look at the progressive lobby as some kind of gravy train.
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>>51522245

i meant castle, he literally looks like a retard
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>>51522281

They are a special interest because they control the media. Since they control the flow of information, they can make and create moral panics, and 'general outrage' despite neither existing.
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>>51522351
I guess, but he seems like a bro. I know that it sounds really gay to be talking about male pornstars, but they really do make or break a scene. The guy I'm talking about, Jessy Jones, is just horrendous. I'm guessing he has some connections in the industry.
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>>51516847
Wobbuffet (as in the pokemon)
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>>51520375
You said
>btw presumption of innocence doesn't apply to women xDDDD
Which i believe does not imply exactly what you meant to imply.
You probably mean it "doesn't apply to men", right?
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>>51523521

I wasn't him, I was just insulting the potato nigger.
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