What the fuck is this shit America?
Why is CNN airing documentaries about our tradition as if we should change them to suit your cultural sensitivities? Do you have expats living in Saudi Arabia acting all suprised theres culutural differences aswell?
Stop with this cultural imperialism, all youre doing is feeding the rage of our homegrown black people. Its our tradition and were not gonna change it because of some black dude on CNN.
http://edition.cnn.com/videos/tv/2015/11/25/digital-shorts-blackface-dutch-holiday-roger-ross-williams-orig.cnn/video/playlists/most-popular-domestic/
>>51500919
I was arrested for 'whiteface' once during a holiday to Philadelphia to meet some relatives.
>a nigger has an opinion
I'm sorry, since when did we give them the right of speech?
>>51500919
Why are your local dark people watching american news?
Why is your culture so weak and helpless that a slow news day in the US effects your country?
>>51501045
Because that cunt williams was on a famous TV show yesterday starting this whole shit.
>>51501008
I think you suck, you ninkumpoop. Just try and silence me>
>>51501045
Probably because you run the damned world?
>>51501045
It has been protested against alot by our domestic nignogs, this plays into their narrative. Its not like this airs into a vacuum.
The problem is that one of the worlds biggest news agencies is picking sides in a debate that they try to understand trough their own cultural framework. It is not our culture being weak, its you guys being ignorant thinking the entire world should be like America. The local black people dont watch American news, but theyll sure as hell watch this and feel better about their misguided opinions.
>Come here then filthy ugly black cancer monkey. Fuck off with your whore family. You will clean my shoes. Fuck off from the Netherlands. Soon on the news: ugly black monkey raped and dumped in a container. That will happen to you.
top kek
>>51501241
>its not a racist tradition guys i swear..
Americans taking the cückold to a new level
>>51501241
cnn documentary of a guy filimg an apple screen getting yelled at by some nigress on facebook
my life is comeplete
>>51500919
you can fuck off yourself nethercucks, you're the ones who started this debate
hell, niggers who like to dress up as zwarte piet get death threats bij leftist keeskoppen
and now we have to deal with this shit too because being ''progressive'' is the new thing for attention
and it's all your fault
>>51501347
Odds are the facebook girl is white though.
She said some pretty racist stuff.
>>51501294
No it is not. The whole thing that they're black because of chimney soot is bullshit of course, but the kids believe it. Why is it racist to paint your face black? If anything, the blacks here should be happy Zwarte Piet exists. It's the only positive stereotype blacks will get
Who's the blackface supposed to be?
>>51501362
>You started this debate
It was the black people Jerome
>>51501087
Don't make me get my whip from the cellar
>>51501294
what's so racist about it?
>>51501362
This tradition has been existing 100+ years and just in the last year niggers started to make an issue about it
>>51501390
They're black because the pieten go through the chimney to deliver the presidents
>>51501362
>death threats
Source?
Also there's not really a debate. Everyone is sick of the discussion already. Even in Amsterdam Zwarte Piet was black during the parade
>>51501424
A SPECIFIC moor
had this culture as well in our catholic village, fucking lib and muzzies really hate fun
>blaming america for something CNN does
pls stop victim blaming
>>51500919
have a normal santa like the rest of the world then
>>51501468
>last year
comic books like 'de famillie doorzon' already made fun of this zwarte piet debate back in the 90's so this shit has been going quite a while in 'natureintendedittobesea-land'
>>51501532
>santa
Fuck off with your Anglo American concepts please
>>51500919
>being racist against spaniards is ok
fuck you
>>51501532
He's not the Santa, he's a helper, Dutch Santa is a pope.
>>51501616
A saint*
The fun thing is that in belgium zwarte piet is called "Père Fouettard" or father whip and he's clearly a sinister guy who whip bad children. Sometime he is view as a chimney sweep that clean the way for saint nicolas
>>51501643
A Bishop turned Saint after chucking some money in some kids' shoes**
>>51501424
>saint nicolas is the santa claus of the netherlands (santa is based on him actually)
>One story includes he frees a slave moor and the guy decides to follow the saint and help him out
>early on he was the punisher (flogging naughty children and taking them to spain) but later he became the foil to saint nicolas his heavy presence
>>51501660
>The fun thing is
that's not fun at all
>>51501390
Je kan je niet meer als moriaantje schminken. Wen er maar aan en schmink je groen/blauw/oranje en hou de rest het zelfde.
>>51501701
I've seen people dressed as Zwarte Piet ever since October desu
Nothing's going to change, and this sort of backlash is only going to get more people to be vocally in favour of it
>>51501660
you mean in your part of Belgium
a lot of belgian boroughs have their own version of sinterklaas
>>51501529
Americans lack the capacity to think outside their culture, it's why they think all they have to do to fix the ME is to "give them democracy".
It's autism on the national level.
>>51501727
Nederland is groot in kleinzielgheid, dat wist ik al.
Je kunt dit ook veranderen (kids merken niks) en dat als munitie te gebruiken om anderen op hun achterhaalde gebruiken aan te spreken.
>>51501660
>Walloons
>>51501837
>deze kuk
>>51501837
But I don't WANT to change it.
I think the petty thing is to cry about racism when racism need not apply.
>>51501790
Isolationist culture with Hyperpower projection capabilities.
Oh boy.
Can't vouch for other people but as a child I never saw zwarte Piet as a black person.
This shit is just another case of white guilt, the narrative has never been racist.
>>51501045
>Why are your local dark people watching american news?
Because the American news legitimises their retardation.
>Why is your culture so weak and helpless that a slow news day in the US effects your country?
Why can't the CNN leave our cultural traditions alone?
>>51501927
>Can't vouch for other people but as a child I never saw zwarte Piet as a black person.
Zwarte Piet is Zwarte Piet.. He's an autonomous phenomenon. Barely even human, like Sinterklaas himself. A mythical figure... Untill you turn 5 and realise it's just the gym teacher with a painted face.
>>51501927
>the narrative has never been racist.
But that doesn't matter anymore. The Americans made it that way.
>>51501890
lul niet zo dom, pragmatiek heeft ons groot gemaakt.
>>51501890
Jij bent in staat om je je hele land te laten afpakken terwijl je je vast klampt aan een gedateerd verschijnsel. Moriaantje was niet rasistich, maar nu kan het niet meer.
>>51501186
>literally this
Just because you 'Muricans have hypersensitive views of racism doesn't make us racist or bad. Grow a pair and stop whining.
>>51502003
fuk, eerste reply is voor >>51501879
>>51501294
>implying this has ANYTHING to do with Sinterklaas as a tradition and isn't just blatant racism from some moronic Bijlmerbitch.
Moriaantje zo zwart als roet
Ging uit wandelen zonder hoed
En de zon scheen op haar bolletje
Daarom droeg zij een parasolletje.
't Parasolletje was te duur
Daarom ging zij naar de schuur.
Maar de schuur die was gesloten
Daarom ging zij naar de boten.
Maar de boten begonnen te roeien
Daarom ging zij naar de koeien.
Maar de koeien begonnen te schoppen
Daarom ging zij naar de poppen.
Maar de poppen begonnen te slaan
Daarom ging zij naar de maan.
Maar de maan begon te draaien
Daarom ging zij naar de haaien.
En de haaien aten haar op
Maar dit liedje was maar een mop
>>51502003
>pragmatiek heeft ons groot gemaakt
Als pragmatiek de oplossing voor het pietenprobleem moet bringen is het eenvoudig: Er verandert niets, en iedereen die nog wil demonstreren bij intochten en dergelijken wordt direct opgepakt en opgesloten wegens ordeverstoring. Een pragmatische oplossing is NIET een kleine minderheid telkens weer een podium geven, of het tolereren dat ze de orde verstoren, of buigen naar hun wil...
>>51502003
>Jij bent in staat om je je hele land te laten afpakken terwijl je je vast klampt aan een gedateerd verschijnsel.
Hoe gaat men ons land afpakken omdat Zwarte Piet blijft? En waarom zou je Zwarte Piet universeel afschaffen, als er in de meeste plaatsen geen probleem is? Als ze in Amsterdam of Gouda Piet willen aanpassen moeten ze dat maar plaatselijk doen.. Dat hoeft toch niet te betekenen dat Sinterklaasintocht bij FC IJsselmeervogels of in Oude Pekela ook op de schop moet?
>>51501532
Your capitalist santa was based off of our Sinterklaas. So maybe you should just stick to the tradition as it was?
>>51502003
>pragmatiek heeft ons groot gemaakt
Ofcourse, because it was so pragmatic to fight the Spanish for independence, and establishing the Batavian Republic. Pragmatism turned us from a Golden Age superpower into an irrelevant player. Please fuck off.
>Jij bent in staat om je je hele land te laten afpakken terwijl je je vast klampt aan een gedateerd verschijnsel. Moriaantje was niet rasistich, maar nu kan het niet meer.
The defence of tradition and culture is what is necessary. Otherwise what's the point of being our own nation. Might aswel just join America as an overseas territory in that case.
>>51502134
>COME ON GUYS ITS ALMOST 2016
Oh God, that Limey cunt is going to pick this up, isn't he...
>>51502118
Mensen die een kinderfeestje komen verstoren moet je gewoon achter het poitieburo afrossen.
Moriaantje is een gedateerd verschijnsel uit een andere wereld. Dat aanpassen aan de tijd vind ik niet zo raar. Betekent niet dat iedereen met tergwerkende kracht ongeloofelijke rasisten waren.
>>51502284
Leer eerst maar eens Nederlands schrijven, meneer.
>>51500919
>Why is CNN airing documentaries about our tradition as if we should change them to suit your cultural sensitivities?
Because people watch it and it makes them money. They're a private company and can broadcast what they want.
>>51502326
>Because people watch it and it makes them money. They're a private company and can broadcast what they want.
Bigbusinessc-uck strikes again.
>selling out your culture on account of the highest bidder
No thank you, fattyclap
>>51500919
Why are you making this thread at 7am. We're all asleep/going to work
>letting yourself get influenced by American news
No one to blame but yourselves. Not even over here are people that retarded
>>51502368
>Why are you making this thread at 7am
But its 12:51 in the civilized world.
>>51502368
liar liar pants on fire
>>51502358
The only difference between our culture and yours is people want to buy ours. CNN isn't even a good news station, is not my fault your lefties are weak and gobble it up
>>51502456
Sorry 6:55 :^)
>>51502463
>our """"""""culture"""""""""""
only reason your people bitch about our culture is because you don't have any to crossrefence it with, therefore your nigs resort to platitudes about racism and the likes, lmao
>>51502163
heikneuter
>>51502463
>The only difference between our culture and yours is people want to buy ours.
This is what burgers actually believe.
>>51502513
>only reason your people bitch about our culture
No one here even knows where the Netherlands is. As far as anyone I know is concerned you're just Germans with peanut butter stuck to the roof of your mouths
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfI7sdrkjg0
Ik weet nog toen Sinterklaas draaide rond dat magische moment wanneer je extra vroeg wakker werd om dan in de living te komen en overal pakjes en picknicken en mandarijen te vinden. En de rooster was weggehaald van voor de haard door "iemand".
>>51502463
>American culture
>Santa
>Complete ripoff of our Sinterklaas
Sure thing, m8
>>51502569
>No one here even knows where the Netherlands is.
I'm worried about the state of American education aswel
>>51502582
>dvw dit kijken als kind
>>51502569
>As far as anyone I know is concerned you're just Germans with peanut butter stuck to the roof of your mouths
That is a pretty fair assesment though.
>America is named after Sinterklaas' horse Amerigo
Ayy, lmao. Ameribabbies on suicide watch
>>51500919
>Australian national television
>2009
>one butthurt American
never forget
https://youtu.be/qEtjaZ8ZuNU
he is only wrong about the last part
black piet is beyond race dialogue
>regularly keked by EU
>always pay most, get nothing
>pay turkey to stop a problem they created
>get lied to by own gov about everything
>services to own people get stripped to pay for importing people that hate us
>BUT MUH FACEPAINT COLOR
>>51502819
He is wrong about every part. If he doesnt like our traditions he is more then welcome to get the fuck out. If he decides to stay he should shut the fuck up.
>>51502950
More than*
>>51502819
he's not even from there, the dutch are clearly not systematic racists
>>51503409
Goddammit i hate all Ozzies
>>51503582
I like them
>>51503582
neat
In America tolerance is thin shaming, atheist shaming, house wife shaming, banning the N-word, banning the F-word and banding against everything that might offend.
In the Netherlands tolerance is acceptance of catholics, protestants, atheists, jews, weed smokers, house wives, pleasure women and career women.
>>51500919
>Giving him views
You're only helping him by linking his cryfest.
>>51503860
In America everyone gets upset when the president says Merry Christmas instead of Happy Holidays. And the white house turns into the colors of the rainbow.
In the Netherlands no one gives a fuck.
mfw this thread
Der zwarte piet is en ehrenhaavter Mann keen kankerneger.
They should be happy being portrait like this.
>>51504591
>ehrenhaavter
What?
>>51504977
Honorable. It's ehrenvoll/ ehrenhaft in german and I was guessing what it could be in dutch.
Tbh what's wrong with roet piet.
>>51500919
Black Pete is pretty racist. Americans have known that for years.
>>51501000
what is whiteface
>>51505094
Its 'eervol'
>>51505259
Americans are pretty racist. Dutch people have known that for years.
>>51501473
>Source?
>>51501241
>>51505351
Rapethreats =/= Deaththreats, but yeah im sure it happens. Not gonna lose any sleep over it though. Immigrants come here and complain about our culture, it just seems not very grateful to me.
>>51500919
>American 'filmmaker' lives in the Netherlands, but does not speak Dutch or know of our culture.
Please adapt, cancer foreigners.
>>51500919
Bruh. Most people here have never heard of your nigger elf, and wouldn't care if they had. Stop acting like every American is out to destroy you just because some reporter challenged your tradition.
>>51505568
who is the american black woman he was talking to in english? Does she live in the netherlands just to persecute relatives of dutch colonialists that had nothing to do with her or her family history?
>>51500919
But... why does everybody keep overlooking the fact that black Pete... doesn't behave stereo-typically black? It's not about the image it's about the actions.
>>51505568
Yea... it's pretty funny that a bunch of people who don't speak Dutch are protesting.
What a bunch of disgusting fucks they are though, acting all nice but working as hard as possible to become a victim using some internet comments as some sort of proof for racism, mixing mild critical comments with heavily racist ones too in the same clip. What a piece of shit that guy is, holy damn what a rat in disguise.
>>51500919
I'm not even watching this. I really don't care what CNN thinks.
>>51505794
wollah kk racist
>>51502134
IT'S THE CURRENT YEAR
>>51506257
>>51502134
pretty discriminatory of John Oliver that he uses the calander of the Christian West instead of using the calender of much older civilizations.
Someone should adress this use.
I feel discriminated against by his Jesus centric calender.
And I thought americans were our friends :(((
>>51506517
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members'_Protection_Act
>amerilards
>friends
>>51506517
forced evacuation of Dutch West Guinea never 5get.
Just as kikey as the lizards that spawned their shithole of a colony desu
>>51500919
>"Do you have expats living in Saudi Arabia acting all suprised theres culutural differences aswell?"
>defending a racist practice by comparing it to barbaric practices like crucifying people for going to a protest
>>51509016
>racist practice
how
black petes are slaves
>>51509520
Just because they are black they are slaves? Thats pretty racist bro.
i bought a swarte piet make-up set from holland for 1€. it was literally just black make-up and nothing else.
praised be the netherlands.
>>51509718
Protesters looking quite intelligent there, ahem...
>>51509718
Are you calling us racist?
Im ashamed of how racist Dutch people are 2bh
>>51502028
>Stop whining
Oh the irony.
