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Will Russians ever recover from their inferiority complex towards the Western world that was triggered by losing the Cold War?
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Never
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I hope they will one day.

They need to learn from Britain imo. The USSR was an empire, they lost the empire and the inferiority complex and aggressive attitude towards neighbours is a result of that.

When we lost our empire we just let it go and managed to form good relations with most of the ex-colonies. We focused on adapting and restructuring the economy + political structure of the UK because power can only be built on strong foundations. Today there are ex-colonies of the British Empire which actually pay the UK to maintain a military presence on their own soil.

Russia needs to restructure its economy away from reliance on oil and gas, to come more independent. They need to be less insecure about the ex-USSR countries being independent. They need to cultivate alliances. Above all to understand that a strong economy is necessary in order to wield real power in the world.
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>>51418004
>to come more independent
to become
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>>51418004
M8 you guys still think you rule the world as close second behind your "child" the USA
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>>51418004
tl;dr bend over to obongo and take it hard like UK does
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>>51418223
Erm no we don't. No country rules the world that's pretty obvious.

The British public massively underestimate the UK's position in the world, I think if you told most Brits that we have the world's 5th economy they wouldn't believe you. Brits are very negative about British prospects.

>>51418332
You're right Ivan, that's why we listened to the Americans and didn't join the AIIB.
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>>51417452

IRELAND BIG
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>>51417452
Which parts are of Russia are Singapore, Saudi Arabia, Denmark and Ireland? Is there an up to date version of the picture?
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>>51417452
same map for Germany
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>>51418507
What happens in that Greek GDP area?
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>>51418004
Russia's idea of 'cultivating alliances'
>Install puppet leader in nearby state
>if puppet leader loses election, invade and annex
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>>51418507
Germany should be broken it pieces.
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>>51418838
That's Hessen (or Hesse), two of the worst German cities are in it: Frankfurt and Offenbach

Also that map is a bit wrong/outdated
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>>51417452
Ireland best :DD
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>>51418888
I agree
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Oy vey i'm from dick-iraq.
Op question: i think never. But it's good, this is intresting place to live. Not safe or good, but intresting.
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>>51417452
What is the population of the Irish part?
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>>51418881
An example please.
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>>51418507
>east Germany is South American tier
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>>51419922
13 million (5 million in Saint Petersburg)
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>>51420449
4 million here in Ireland. That is quite a difference in GDP.
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>>51417452
I don't understand what are you talking about, I feel like you fantasize.

>>51418004
Our colonies aren't far away on other continents, it's our neighbors. It's natural we will have very special relationship.
All this is cyclic, we are on downfall, what must be done right now is to save as much as possible until the time of rise comes again.
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>>51420426
that's nothing new uezs
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>>51417452
IRELAND STRONK
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>>51421386
>Our colonies aren't far away on other continents, it's our neighbors. It's natural we will have very special relationship.
We also have Ireland right next to us. We let them be completely independent and don't interfere with them, that has allowed us to develop a friendly relationship which benefits both of us.

>All this is cyclic, we are on downfall, what must be done right now is to save as much as possible until the time of rise comes again.
Of course there's a cyclic aspect. We had lands in France then lost them. Then we colonised lands in America and then we lost them. Then we built a new empire based around the East and lost that too.

But it doesn't have to be like that. Many countries do not bounce back from defeat, instead they fade away. If Russia wants to bounce back it needs to construct solid foundations like I described... you can't have true military power without it
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>>51420799
We're set to overtake Finland in total GDP next year, I think. We tax labour, everyone else taxes wealth, so we see massive capital flows to here.
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>>51419006
Never heard of Offenbach, is it another refugee shithole
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There seems to be a paradox here.
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>>51423024
-10%?? Venezuela is getting fucked even more than we
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>>51423024
That's prediction is already completely off.

Russia actually is doing better than that, and Malaysia is doing far worse.
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>>51422972
>>51423024
I thought the same thing actually.
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>>51423170
Most of their problems stem from the government and people, not as much their oil.

They are more corrupt and ungoverned than the worst part of Russia.

>>51423024
Not really. It generally correlates.
Also, if you produce more oil you can make up for the fall in oil price.
So if oil falls 50% you can produce 50% more and keep the same base economic growth.
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>>51423024
>Libya
Kek, how much in total have they gone down since the "liberation", 50%?
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>>51422972
>>51423024
>>51423270
Some of it also due to differing costs of oil extraction. E.g. in Saudi Arabia it's extremely cheap to extract their oil so selling it is more profitable than in other countries
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I think it is because the Russian government has decided to devaluate their currency instead of attempting to keep it afloat by burning their reserves.
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>>51423304
lel kekmany confusing russian style liberation aka rape and destroy everything with a basic civil war with some outside interference.

It's funny to me
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>>51418507
>that moroccan flag
wtf
what the hell is happening there
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>>51423556
Crumbling commie blocks, rust, ostalgia
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>>51418507
BAVARIA
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>>51423411
Then why is Eastern Europe still inhabited?

>libya
>basic civil war
>just some intervention
Are you State Department media relations?

Surely Libyans prefer the current state of affairs to Gaddafi. Surely.
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>>51423388
This has next to nothing to do with the picture OP posted.

Also, Russia allowed the currency to free float because a cheap currency undercuts other nations trade and makes you more competitive. It's what every nation does when a big unforeseen economic problem is barreling towards the.
Including the US 2009-2014.
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>>51417452
>nominal gdp
>relevant to anything
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>>51423336
No.

These countries are making up for the price fall with more production. If price falls 50% all you gotta do is increase production 50%. Then GDP is growing the same rate as before the price drop.

Russia just can't/doesn't want to produce more oil.
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>>51423024

Basically there are three, well 5, kinds of oil-producing countries. Countries that highly diversified like Canada and Malaysia. Countries like Norway, Qatar etc with truly huge foreign reserves and a lot of people owning them money. The third group are those who are really desperate cutting an arm and burning their reserves, Bolivia, Azerbaijan, hoping for higher prices. Then there's the incompetent group ç8Venezula and Nigeria). And finally there's Russia that doesn't seem to give a fuck.
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>>51423687
Just as much as americans preferred the revolutionary war to king george most likely.
Or are americans the only ones allowed to have civil wars?

>Then why is Eastern Europe still inhabited?
Because if rape and destruction were enough to completely stop people from rebuilding human would have gone extinct thousands of years ago.
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>>51418004
>They need to learn from Britain imo.
>says the only country more keked than us

I hope nobody "learns" from "Great" Britain.
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>>51424395
Britain is one of the most world's most successful countries both historically and in the present day. More importantly regarding Russia, Britain's ability to recover after a defeat and adapt to new circumstances is simply unmatched.
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>>51424998
>this is what Briteeth actually believe
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>>51418881
But only difference to other related countries we do it to neighbores and not using private armies, so whatever
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>>51425136
I am probably unusual as a Brit for thinking so highly of Britain, most people are pessimistic and negative. But most people don't read much military, economic and political history or care about geopolitics. I am definitely correct.
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>>51418004
>When we lost our empire we just let it go
Why would you do that? Lying on the internet doesnt really happen does it?
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>>51417452
I hope so, Russia was based before they became Godless commies.
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>>51426048
What do you mean? We granted independence to pretty much every colony instead of fighting. Once they were independent we did not try to get them back, we respected their independence.
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>>51426389

You only did so because you lost the only one that mattered: India. The rest of the Empire only existed as coal stations to ensure supplies from India and India alone.
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>>51426795
We granted India independence, we didn't lose it in war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Independence_Act_1947

>The rest of the Empire only existed as coal stations to ensure supplies from India and India alone.
No that's rubbish
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>>51417452
No.

But we can all live in hope I guess.
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>>51425418
You're fighting a hopeless cause m8, JFs will never accept anything but /int/ memes
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_subjects_of_Russia_by_GDP_per_capita
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>>51422667
findland is crashing without survivors
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>>51427412
Ithink map means overal GDP of a region compared to the overal GDP of these countries.
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>>51427525
anyway i live in Azerbaijan-tier oblast, kek
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>>51423170
Venezuela is a failed state. They are finished. Some people think they might try and annex some of Guyana as a populist measure for the government to survive
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>>51427412
>66 Jewish Autonomous Oblast Jewish Autonomous Oblast 9,849
kek
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>>51418004
> we lost our empire
you lier.
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>>51418004
>>51433746
Sorry for lang. Use google translate.
http://galkovsky.ru/upravda/archive/225.html
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>>51418004
Sorry for lang. Use google translate.
http://galkovsky.ru/upravda/archive/225.html
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>>51418004
>learn from britain

yeah, no.
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>>51433746
>>51434080
>>51434137
Your article is wrong m8. Citizens of the Commonwealth are NOT British subjects. Britain does not have any real influence over the Commonwealth nations.

The Commonwealth is the political equivalent of "muh heritage". It's a totally optional union for countries which have some sort of historical link to Britain. Usually you find that the tiny countries care about it more, while the larger countries don't even know it exists.

Being a member of the Commonwealth does have the advantage of giving you closer links to the UK - if that's what you want. For example Belize requested the return of the British Army base there, which the UK government agreed to this year. The British Commander of Land Forces noted in his speech that Belize is the only Commonwealth country in Central America... that makes it more special to the UK than the others.

But the Commonwealth is not about hard power, it's nothing like an Empire. The era of Empires is over, traditional ones at least...
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Is it a day of baiting Russians today?
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>>51424998
>Britain is one of the most world's most successful countries both historically and in the present day
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>>51417452
>>51418507
USA stronk
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>>51422667
Only next year? I assumed we were wealthier than them despite them having a million more people.
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>>51435625
How can you deny that
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>>51437269
hehe no germany in there nigga
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>>51437269
>pennsylvania's equivalent is Saudi Arabia
Extremist Quaker monarchy when?
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>>51418004
Why did this post get so many (You)s?
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