Is German efficiency real or is it a meme?
Post some examples of German efficiency.
It's a meme nowdays. Just like the rest of the country.
I worked in South Korea before. People stay 12 hours at the office, stare at their screen, complain how much work they have and do fuck all.
Worked in England before. People stay 8-9 hours at the office, chat, drink tea, press random keys on their keyboard and do fuck all.
In both countries I could finish what I was supposed to do in 2-3 hours a day. The fuck Korea and England, the fuck.
>>51415838
I can't speak about all germans, but the 2 german dudes at my office literally didn't stop working
>>51415964
As far as the UK goes, someone once told me 'British managers are more concerned with the appearance of productivity than actual productivity' and I think it's true.
Yes, Germans never work to much, but they work very efficient. You cant say all Germans are like this. I think sometimes they are lazy, but they get it donne just enough. They are Minimalist.
Worked with a british guy, hes ex-Military, he was completly stupid and boiling-head. I told him how to do the Job very easy, but he still ensisted that he had to do it harder.
>>51415838
>>51415964
Hungarian guy comes into office, he's the only guy who does work all day
>mfw all my work could be done in 4 hours
>mfw i still get paid more than him
dumb fuck
I'm an American student currently living in Germany. I have worked with Germans and I would say that the "efficient, cold, robotic" stereotype of Germans holds true.
>>51416557
Also, this image is pretty accurate. My friend works all day, then goes home and works on his community's farm as a way of having fun and unwinding. I don't the people in this country and I want to go back home in the United States.
>>51416557
>>51416557
yes, Germans see work as a Hobby and part of life, i know a german guy which won lottery and got millions and still doing his Job just for fun.
if you see work as something part of life, you dont suffer so much.
>>51415964
toplel
>>51416795
work to live m8 don't live to work. You're driving a fucking forklift not changing the world.
>>51416950
i indeed drive a forklift, i enjoy it it is fun m8
>>51416795
>if you see work as something part of life, you dont suffer so much.
>>51416795
>you dont suffer so much
>>51415964
>>51416528
I wish I could work efficiently. I just procrastinate a lot.
>>51415964
>come into office as junior
>have little work to do so I take my full lunch time and leave at 5
>even asking around I can't find any work that'd keep me past 5
>spend half my time looking busy
>get bitched out by colleagues because I leave at 5
>>51417137
https://youtu.be/5xs--To414I?t=6m46s
This is what you People dont get, socialism is best System, you dont suffer it is joyfull.
>>51416950
>work to live m8 don't live to work
Well, that's exactly what "we" are doing. I work 7 hours a day, but I really do work this 7 hours. After that I have time for my hobbies and my family.
Now compare it to other countries where you work 10 hours or more per day but actually work only 3 or 4 hours. That's wasted time.
A friend of mine moved to the USA, he tried to work there with his german work ethic and american working hours. He got sick after 8 months and came back.
>>51417396
This is one thing I hate about British working culture (and also Australian too, according to your post). This perceived difference between the working hours written into my contract and the working hours I'm expected to do through convention and peer pressure.
>>51417600
>>51415838
>ridiculous laws force companies to waste uncountable hours for paperwork and impede progress
>huge amounts of taxes make founding new companies unattractive
>financial crisis has lead to huge shortcuts of financial aid, most cities are running out of money and cant afford repair of streets, payments for city officials, renovations of schools, etc.
>cities dont have enough money to take care of poor and homeless people, and are recently flooded with refugees wich they shall take care of now, without additional financial aid from berlin
>bologna process and shortcuts of financial aid have fucked up universities and impede scientifical progress
>lack participation in polls and politics lets the political landscape of germany stagnate
>rising rejection of the population against the government and governmental institution leads to a destabilization of germany itself
>concerns against the efficiency of our democratic system allows anti-democratic forces like rightwing parties and neonazis to gain mainstream acceptance
>>51415964
>People stay 8-9 hours at the office, chat, drink tea, press random keys on their keyboard and do fuck all.
This is actually very accurate.
6000000. We burned so many that some people claim it didn't happen because it wouldn't be possible. LMAOing at their inferior ovens.
Am a german student doing an erasmus in France atm and i have to say that on average the people here are just "less efficient".
They dont really care about productivity or work, they live to live their life, which is something that i have taken to heart quite a bit now.
I come from the south of germany, which is more or less the economic powerhouse and i have to say that when i compare the people on the street in France to the people in Germany, most germans just look much sadder & drearier.
Germans may be more productive, but we cant really enjoy ourselves as much as other people if we arent working.
>>51418015
As a German in Hungary I can tell you that Hungarians are equally less efficient as the French at working, yet not happier than Germans.
One doesn't imply the other m8
Well, efficient at motivationg migration.
>>51417527
The only reason I work only 4-5 hours out of my 8 hour work day is because I get so ahead on my work that I can afford to take little breaks and just fuck off for a little bit. My entire job is based on efficiency, the minimum standard is 75% efficiency for work completed, during the week I'm in excess of 100%, every week. Working less hours out of an allotted time doesn't necessarily translate to not working efficiently.
>>51418076
Maybe because they're fucking broke? lol
>>51418076
Maybe its just the culture then - but i love it here. Its warm, no snow, the winter is sunny like 80% of the time - why the fuck are people still living in dready germany ?!
Seriously gonna move to the south of france when my french improves.
>>51418445
But snow is fun...
>>51418276
>Arbitrary efficiency goals that expect you to perform about 2-3 hours of work in a workday make you look good.
>you think you're productive while fucking around
>>51418475
Nope, it and the cold can fuckoff for all i care.
>>51415838
It's the burst-working. We have the same thing going, thus the vacations and short hours.
It's like Japanese working hours in reverse.
>>51418512
I don't work in an office. I work in manufacturing and production for a global company that supplies the world with Airplane/energy parts. Fuck we even have plants in France and other countries in Europe. It's not exactly an arbitrary efficiency goal when there is a specific time frame that needs to be met.
>>51418445
Climate in northern Germany is almost exactly the same as in northern France. And the south isn't that bad either. Munich is no Marseilles, but you still get the most breathtaking landscapes there, it's always snowing and atmospheric, the summers get unbearably hot. France's got nothing on Germany apart from the real property and rental market, which is absolutely dreadful in the latter.
>>51418588
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPCyaUh_6WM
Preach it brother.
But I suspect there's a trade-off between efficiency and long working hours but it's not in objective productivity. Some things like video-games and art might benefit from a slower working pace.
>>51418588
You still cant sell me on the fact that you dicking around is in any way conducive to you being productive.
There is a reason your timetables are so lax, cause that way you are just minimizing the chance of the timeframes not being kept.
It could still be a lot more efficient though.
Also, how the fuck arent you people revolting when you get like 2 weeks off every year !? That shit is crazy man...
They are effective at destroying Germany and Europe, that they are
>>51418717
I can see where things like art/video games, things like that would benefit from taking more time. I'm sure a lot of things would benefit from taking more time. I know I could make every part I work on (I'm a hand grinder) absolutely perfect if there was no time limit, but we work with what we get, right? I appreciate when game studios take more time with games (sometimes). Because it hopefully means they are actually working to make the quality better.
>>51418825
lol true, fuck germans
>>51418950
How long have Germany actually been a sovereign nation (not counting the third war)
They already destroyed Europe 3 times sm.h now thats efficiency
>>51419016
>third war
Cold war* Sorry im sleepy
>>51418781
Why am I going to work excessively when I can make sure my efficiency is well over the standard and then proceed to just relax for a bit? I don't have to work as hard to make the efficiency, because I've already exceeded the standard. As for 2 weeks off a year, that's how much time you are given, I can hold on to that and choose to use it or not, and save it for a later time. A lot of people who work a lot, then all of a sudden take a bunch of time off, get bored. I get bored on 4 day weekends and shit.
>>51418639
France has got a culture that vibrates with life. I have only seen a hint towards that in Berlin, where people are not as dull or dreary.
But seriously, come to the south of germany and see how much life sucks here. Everybody makes a lot of money, but people are still unhappy on the streets. Also everybody here is fucking old man, it fees like the average age for people that are walking on the central street of my city is 45+ (!), the weather doesnt even get really warm over the summer (seriously, 20 degrees in May?!) and the food culture is booooring as fuck.
Yes we have beer, but the French have wine.
If i were to buy apartments in France to rent, i would think long and hard about where, cause i think that you cant throw out renters if "the winter months" (October to Feb? Not sure..) hit. So some people just dont pay their rent.
Other than that France is a lot nicer than Germany.
PS: I am in Marseille, i pay 1100 euros for a 120sqm apartment. Try doing that in Munich, where it will likely cost you at least 2500.
>>51415838
They cant manage to construct a single tiny regional airport, they're needing 20 years for it, in China they do it onvernight.
it's a meme of a meme at this point.
>>51419158
In china elevators always stop functioning too.
>>51419075
>Im better than the standard
>work ethic
??? Why not take pride in your productivity? I just dont understand why you "dont do more" when you certainly could.
Its just baffling.
>>51419269
The Chinese rail way system today counts as the safest world wide despite 10 years straight of "lol china unsafe".
Meanwhile in Germany when you drive a train in Winter you freeze and in Summer you die of thirst.
Try harder Detlef.
>>51419284
...I think you're thinking I just sit there on my phone or with my thumb up my ass. I continue to work. I'm just more relaxed in it. I'm not focusing on meeting/exceeding the efficiency standard, so I can focus more on quality. I don't cease working simply because I excelled in what is expected of me. Perhaps it was some ambiguity on my part. I didn't exactly explain that. My bad if that's the case
>>51419402
Alright. Thats what i interpreted.
Anyhow, good day to you.
>>51419158
>le rising china superpower meem
>>51416040
It is what you get paid for, after all.
At least we are not crazy as the Japanese.
>>51419449
Ok, my bad for the misunderstanding. I should have been more clear. Have a pleasant evening, friend.
>>51415964
I can confirm the Korea part. Was doing some stuff at Samsung HQ and holy shiet. Actually all the real work was done by slaved indians, Koreans were able to do nothing while staying there 12 hours.
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>>51419075
>I get bored on 4 day weekends and shit.
Classic amerigoy reasoning here!
If you don't need freetime then why don't you just work 7 days a week?
>>51419156
>I am in Marseille
Sorry for your loss
>>51419462
I've heard that a lot of companies don't pay for the first 20-40 hours of overtime, and it's considered "service overtime"
>>51419158
That's because the Chinese give jack shit about regulations and worker's rights. It's not about work ethic.
>>51419524
Because during slow times in the industry(like now), the company doesn't allow overtime/double time. Otherwise I'd work more. Fuck, I worked 60 hours last week, only taking friday off.
>>51419583
Its a lot better than fucking Stuttgart. Gotta start life somewhere !
>>51419455
All countries can build things very fast. from China there's now lots of youtube videos like "building skyscraper in 19 days" or "Bridge overnight" and such things.
On my way to work there's a construction site, they're fixing the road, 1 kilometers long, have been doing it for 4 years now. Why does it take so long? Easy - Corruption. The Towns Major knows the owner of the construction company, the Major has tax money to spend and the construction company wants the money, so as long as they work they get money.
Finland is like Germany with more taxes and bureaucracy.
>>51419156
>f i were to buy apartments in France to rent, i would think long and hard about where, cause i think that you cant throw out renters if "the winter months" (October to Feb? Not sure..) hit. So some people just dont pay their rent.
You can't throw out renters easily at all.
The maximum you can do is sue them and then a long process will begin when the state has to find then a new home because you can't throw someone on the street if they don't pay the rent.
That's why you have to be careful when you pick your renter
>>51419683
You're a hedonistic faggot if you have chosen to betray your Swabian fatherland.
I doubt there is a sense of accomplishment in being inefficient and lazy.
France is great for vacations and the way of life is nice to see but it takes quite the asshead to pick that over actually getting shit done long-term.
>>51419602
Well...it depends on the job.
In general people work until the job is done, i.e. overtime.
In low qualification and/or ubiquitous jobs this can mean a lot of overtime sort of falls under the table for the sake of the team. But in general you are either paid for it or you get to accumulate it to cash in later as longer hollidays.
There is still a lot done for the team and people are ready to put in more if the times are hard.
At least thats my personal experience.
>>51419819
Their work ethic is borderline psychotic.
>>51419383
>safest world wide
sure, Chang in Austria.
And that title belongs to Japan.
>>51415838
>>51419911
I am german, by the way.
I think its not psychotic, but eh.
>>51419960
I'm going off of anecdotal evidence. When my sister lived their, she said the father of her host family would leave for work at like 530 in the morning and be back around 1030 at night. Which is ungodly.
>>51419790
>implying i dont work hard or smart.
>fuck the swabian people and their shit dialect. Small minded, ugly, boring and no vision nor dreams for anything beyond the immediate horizons. Wie toll es ist ein Spießer zu sein, oh la la.
>the thought of a woman just speaking swabian, no matter how pretty she is, makes my dick go limp. Keep your swamp language and choke on it.
Also, funny as to how i am a hedonistic faggot because i chose to broaden my horizons. I never said anything about alcohol or drugs, but i guess you have to take them en masse when you stay in germany to fucking blind out the dullness of it all.
Have you ever actually lived somewhere else other than germany in order to gain an impression of how things could be done differently?
>>51419790
It's nuts. You sound like an ant in human form.
Life is short, I don't want to spoil it with work. If I could stop working definitely right now and still have money I would
I also like to work efficient and get it done fast. Working 12 hour days wouldn't even help. Usually when I work 8 hours I have been thinking so hard that I couldn't even concentrate on some new task and it would just end up with me staring at the screen.
>>51419942
>1 major accident 6 years ago
>keep posting it forever
>>51420031
Despite you pointing it out yourself, your anecdotal evidence still doesn't mean shit.
>>51420031
No idea, can happen but that is not normal.
>>51415838
>Is German efficiency real or is it a meme?
well they are efficiently destroying Europe so I would say its real.
>>51419156
>20 degrees
>not blazing hot
what the fuck is wrong with you
>>51420037
I've travelled the world and for the most part things are often done worse in most respects.
Swabian is a beautiful dialect and there's nothing wrong with being a Spießer in some ways.
>>51420081
That's not how life works. There's structures and working for things is an important part.
You sound like a real baby.
>>51421896
>Swabian is a beautiful dialect
>>>/gas/
>>51422055
Take your dubs of mental retardation and get fucked until you look like a schwäbische Laugenbretzel.
>you will never be an efficient german robot who lives to work building robots
why live lads
>>51416653
>Hungarian
>>51415838
>Post some examples of German efficiency
volkswagen freud was very efficient
Yes it's true, Germans are robots and terribly boring people on average, it's also true that they have no sense of humour at all, not in the sense that they don't crack jokes all day (they certainly don't), but in the sense that they don't even get the jokes when someone else makes them. It's not uncommon to say a joke to a German and have him explain to you in detail the reasons why the joke is incorrect, it's like they don't grasp abstract thoughts, hyperboles and the likes.
No hate to Germaney or to Germans intended.
>>51422598
Not true, you need abstract thought to understand german philosophers!
>>51422598
Thats most likely based on the kind of humor and jokes you use.
Just as asians and americans have different kidn of humor germans and I bet other people tend to have different humor aswell.
Heres a german joke, I bet it won't work for you if you aren't german.
> Geht eine schwangere Frau in eine Bäckerei und sagt:
>"Ich krieg ein Brot!"
>Darauf der Bäcker:
>"Sachen gibt's!
>A pregnant woman enters a bakery
>I am getting a bread
>The baker answers:
>Just strike me pink!
>>51423194
I don't get it. Is it a play on words or something?
>>51423276
>Spaniards can't into humor!
>>51423298
Please explain the joke I'm curious about how robots get amused.
Here is a famous german joke: 0100100001000101010011000100110001001111
>>51423298
It's adorable that you think the Spaniard is the one who doesn't understand humor in this situation.
>>51423347
The woman says that she wants a loaf of bread in a way that could also mean that she's going to have a loaf of bread like she is going to have a baby.
The baker thinks she means that she will have a bread instead of a baby and is surprised.
An alright joke but not so good when explained like this.
>>51423516
I was basically agreeing with the other German poster that humor is different and making a joke, saying the Spaniard didn't have humor when in reality he just didn't get the play on words.
Suck a kangaroo dick, I guess.
>>51423750
There's no way I could get the joke in german and the
>just strike me pink!
made it even harder, I was thinking of clitoris or something about giving birth there something kinky.
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>>51415838
>Post some examples of German efficiency.
>>51422598
>don't even get the jokes when someone else makes them.
From my experience with international students most Italians just have a shitty sense of humor
German efficiency is real. Most people spend lots of time doing nothing and getting paid for it.
If everyone worked like the germans did we could have 4 hour work days and get everything done.
![fot._25[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gnhvOaO.jpg "fot._25[1].jpg")
>>51423942
>>51415838
it isn;t but not all Germans are the same
the Efficient bit is a common protestant/Prussian characteristic
Bavarian Catholics are lazy cunts.
>>51423891
Actually the baker says "There are things", indicating surprise at the fact that the woman is having a bread.
I have no idea why the other German anon would translate that with an English figure of speech that doesn't fit.
>>51423942
>>51423986
Deffinetly was efficient.
>>51424008
Well..they are the richest state for a reason though.
>>51424008
that made me moist - I need a source on that
>>51423986
>>51423942
>posting Polish death camps
>German
nice try
![intern-topper[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nXI2Z9v.jpg "intern-topper[1].jpg")
>>51423986
>>51424148
Found it - Just had to stop searching in german and search in english.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2mcO6l-0cY
![buchenwald[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gwIdu50.jpg "buchenwald[1].jpg")
>>51424258
![Bundesarchiv_Bild_152-11-12,_Dachau,_Konzentrationslager,_Besuch_Himmlers[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4OtRUcQ.jpg "Bundesarchiv_Bild_152-11-12,_Dachau,_Konzentrationslager,_Besuch_Himmlers[1].jpg")
>>51424304
>Post some examples of German efficiency.
![KL1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nLRw3mE.jpg "KL1[1].jpg")
>>51424341
>>51424341
What are Poles associated with?
Christianity?
Nationalism?
Don't be a "hater" post some positive polish stuff!
Because no one can doubt that the KZ's were efficient.
>>51424378
butthurt much?
>>51418015
Figures are in US$, obviously
>>51424471
>Don't be a "hater" post some positive polish stuff!
OK...
>>51424611
>>51423194
Who wants some bad German jokes from the first site that google shat out?
>Lil Fritz: My gramps died
>Friend: Why?
>Lil Fritz: He hit his thumb with a hammer
>Friend: But you don't die from that!
>Lil Fritz: Sure, but since he wouldn't stop screaming we shot him
--------
>Why are there so few blacks on cruises to America?
>They won't fall for that one again
------
>Doc to the patient: You have AIDS and alzheimer diesease!
>Patient: phew, at least not AIDS!
>>51424611
I meant about polish attributes and what they are.
>>51424677
You mean today?
or you mean history?
Memoriał Hitlera do Himmlera 4 marca 1944:
Polacy są najbardziej inteligentnym narodem ze wszystkich, z którymi spotkali się Niemcy podczas tej wojny w Europie... Polacy, według mojej opinii oraz na podstawie obserwacji i meldunków z Generalnej Guberni, są jedynym narodem w Europie, który łączy w sobie wysoką inteligencję z niesłychanym sprytem. Jest to najzdolniejszy naród w Europie, ponieważ żyją ciągle w niesłychanie trudnych warunkach politycznych, wyrobił w sobie wielki rozsądek życiowy, nigdzie niespotykany. Na podstawie ostatnich badań, prowadzonych przez Reichsrassenamt uczeni niemieccy doszli do przekonania, że Polacy powinni być asymilowani do społeczności niemieckiej jako element wartościowy rasowo. Uczeni nasi doszli do wniosku, że połączenie niemieckiej systematyczności z polotem Polaków dałoby doskonałe wyniki.
"Die Polen sind das intelligenteste Volk von allen, auf welches wir in diesem Krieg bisher gestoßen sind ... Die Polen sind meiner Meinung nach, sowie auf Grundlage von Beobachtungen und Meldungen aus dem Generalgouvernement, das einzige Volk in Europa, welches die Eigenschaft von hoher Intelligenz und unerhörter Schlauheit in sich vereint. Es ist das talentierteste Volk in Europa, welches unter fortwährend schwierigen politischen Bedingungen lebend, in sich eine ausgeprägte Lebenserfahrung kultiviert hat, welche sonst nirgendwo anzutreffen ist.
>>51424887
Auf Grundlage der letzten Untersuchungen, durchgeführt durch das Reichsrassenamt, sind unsere Wissenschaftler zur Überzeugung gelangt, dass die Polen, als rassisch wertvolles Element in die deutsche Volksgemeinschaft integriert werden sollten: Die Verknüpfung von deutscher Systematik mit genialer (Eingebung/Gewieftheit/Erfindungsreichtum) der Polen würde ausgezeichnete Resultate liefern. "
>>51417600
When I was fresh out of university I took an unpaid internship at a big telecom company. It was 40 hours a week, but the reputation of the company was such that people were still eager to work for nothing in the hope of getting a foot in the door.
Once I was in I discovered that there was a culture created by management that pressured people into working as many hours as possible to get a good reference. There was even a policy in place where the company would pay for a taxi or hotel room if you stayed longer than the buses ran. All of this was without pay. I always managed to leave around 5 or 5:30, but there was still the constant stigma of being an entitled millennial if you didn't put in 60 hours a week FOR ZERO DOLLARS.
It took me a few months to realize that there weren't any real job openings and that I was completely keked. The internship program collapsed and was never heard from again a few months after I left. It was the cult of business at its worst.
>>51415838
8,000,000 refugees is no meme
>>51423194
Well I had no doubt you had jokes in Germany, the thing is that you can really upset a German person's mental balance if you say something unexpected in a joking way out of nowhere, here's two pieces of evidence I can recall of Germans getting upset by jokes:
1.
>East German girl (just met on a night out drinking) says she's going to naples the next day
>asks if South Italy is really poor as they say
>somebody says "yes you'd feel at home since you're from East Berlin hehe"
>she proceeds to explain the entire economic situation of East Germany with historical references
>ok.png
2.
>German friend of friends says he would never hit a woman
>somebody says "well you did kill Anne Frank "
>goes full butthurt mode saying some thing are just wrong and should be not made fun of and blah blah
>the other guy has to apologize in the end
>>51425248
that's not good humour, you and your friends are just assholes
>>51425460
Case in point.
Social interaction should be a little controversial sometimes, if you just refuse any sort of remark, even the ones that are obviously jokes there is something wrong with you or your culture.
>>51423194
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KENZD6IjDYI
>>51425753
no there's a difference between edgy social interaction and either making jokes about the holocaust or insulting somebody you don't even know
not saying i'm refusing any sort of remark but if i was walking down the street and somebody make a joke about how poor i was because of where i'm from i might get a bit defensive too and think that the person speaking to me was a bit of a twat
real life isn't /int/
>>51424887
>>51424920
Most tells say that this doesn't count.
Should have allied with us.
After all you progromed jews when they returned from Kzs they survived.
seems similar.
>>51425893
>if i was walking down the street
do you think we just stopped a group of Germans and just angrily told mean jokes to them because we're psychopathic like that?
we were talking normally in a pub until that happened, nobody expected it.
>make a joke about how poor i was
big deal, get over yourself, we're all poor, smelly, cowards or something else in stereotypes, you can either take it like a champ and joke about said stereotypes or be the grumpy one that want to give moral lessons to everybody 'cause he's perfect you know.
>get a bit defensive too and think that the person speaking to me was a bit of a twat
that is perfectly within your rights as a free Germanic citizen but then don't come complaining when the rest of the world calls you out for being a whole population of people who can not handle humour.
>jokes about the holocaust
familia I heard an exceptional variety of jokes about the holocaust being told in just about every European country during my life, the fact that it is still taboo in German lands even among young people in relaxed situations should tell you something about that proverbial broom in your collective behind.
>>51419516
The asian productivity myth is a fucking meme.
Some high ranking guys have incredibly good ideas that sometimes revolutionized whole industries, and indeed the culture in Japan or Korea focused on perfection and selflessness incite people to give.much more than a regular western employee.
But the vast majority of people there, while clocking in tremendous work hours, are actually kept busy doing pretty silly stuff like yelling catchphrases, running around, cleaning stuff, impressing billions of sheets to fax them instead of using emails etc.
The efficiency is pretty low.
The ceremonial part on the workplaces kill a lot of the productivity , the stupid hierarchical cast stuff makes it impossible to promote the good elements and have you stuck with retarded managers that.terrorize whole.floors just because they have been here 20 years and feel entitled to.
>>51426382
you're strawmanning and projecting very hard
the real joke here is your post
>>51426482
Ok sorry you're perfect.
>>51424082
Position making them always the least hit in wars since time fucking immemorial?
It's part of our culture, we like to work and organize things.
I notice in other countries, people are very lazy on average.
>>51426571
why are you so mad?
can you not take a joke?
are you german?
>>51415838
I remember this pic which was known well in japan a few months ago.
>>51426613
>why are you so mad?
>implying mad
>can you not take a joke?
>implying jokes
>are you german?
god no, pheww
>>51424943
Yep I think company culture matters much more than the original culture of the country where the headquarter is.
Also, people have a lot.of prejudice and some industries are better at branding themselves as cool/relaxed.
I can guarantee you that you are most likely to have a better working conditions and benefits as an employee of an old family industrial.empire from Germany than in most of silicon valley startups.
Free food and slides in the offices are just cheap tricks to have you work 70 hours a week 24/7 if needed.
After working for 1 year in Germany i realiced this is just a meme, germans are as lazy or even more lazy than spaniards, they just keep the appearences to make others believe they are better.
I have to say that i like germany but i hate hipocrysy
>>51426875
What does it mean?
I punched the question into google translate but that's basically gibberish.
>>51427932
that is just a questionnaire to ask comer where you are from.
>>51425893
>>51426382
I can tell you that South European humor is completely different than you guys in the north, actually it might be more similar to english humor. Me and my friends tell this kind of jokes all the fucking time, and telling them to people you just met is even funnier because they don't expect you to be a cunt to someone you just met and it also shows confidence. It's actually a great way to break the ice but I haven't experience the same reactions here in Germany.
t. Spaniard
>>51426875
Story?
From.the little Japanese I read I gather that students had to put a sticker on the board according to where the come from and if they are boys or girls (I still don't get the obsession in Japan about the separation of sexes).
So Japanese are very organized, anglos less and French just.go cray.
But what about Germany I can't read what's written nor get the organization of their stickers.
>>51428089
But what's the special thing about the german bracket?
>>51425248
That second joke is kinda like Aussie shitposting desu
>>51428158
The horizontal row above the stickers is A-U
The vertical row at the left is 1-7
The fields under the stickers are 1-100+
on the right is a legend explaining shit
>>51428158
it's not a question of organisation. It's a question of doing like the others, respecting the conventions and unspoken rules.
humor is for kids
memes are for men
>>51418445
How true is it about the short French working week?
Work-averse Irishman here.
>>51427631
I think there is nuance. I worked in a few European companies and have had to do business with a bunch of companies around the world and I can guarantee you there is a variation of work culture across the world.
That said, as every cultural stereotypes, it's just a tendency and not the law. If Germans have better work ethics on overall this doesn't mean there arent any lazy people there. I think the concentration is actually pretty much the same than everywhere else. I am currently working for a big German company and I can guarantee some plant workers are every bit as slow, grumpy and inventively lazy as the ones from our Mexican plant.
I think most of the output difference lies in the overall culture of work ethics and what's considered acceptable in each culture.
Lazy people are only meddling around the bottom line of what's acceptable, because if you get too bad you simply get fired. I'm pretty sure that after a while a lazy German worker would be as relaxed about his work as a Mexican one if he lived here long enough. But usually these cultural boundaries are deeply rooted.
A practical example, we once contracted a small company to get the fence painted here in mexico. The guys basically drive-by painted it from their moving truck with a spray, there were paint everywhere, even stains on the windows on the other side of the fence or on the company logo.
Worst part was that they didn't even get why we were so mad about their retarded job. They have always been doing it that way and people complained a bit sometimes but it was tolerated.
I think even the laziest German guy would understand how unnacveptabke that is. He would probably find a way to do the less possible while meating what he considers an accetable level of finish. He is not less lazy, he just has a higher standard.
That's my theory I don't know what its worth
>>51428203
I don't know precisely what german people thought for that.
But as long as I can deduce it, one of german people who peasted the seal on the paper designates others where to put on the seal in the basis like decimal system.
>>51428670
French here, by law it's 35 hours.
A normal job in France usually respect these hours.
People just spend less time dicking at the office and more with their family while still doing the 3-4 hours of actual work they were doing before.
Yet, according to the company and your position you can be expected to do much longer hours and be available on the phone/ by email.
It's usually more a high managerial level problem but sometimes it is expected from middle management too.
In the end the appearances of productivity and hard work keeps being essential.
>>51421896
Ive travelled the world too, and yes, things are often done worse than in germany. But that wasnt my point. I just dont like the german mindset and the resulting dreariness that settles in my hometown because of that. I dont hear people laughing in the bus, on the metro or where ever in germany, nor do i see them smile about small and unimportant things.
Thats not a country i want to live in.
I've already stated what i dont like about germany and you havent really refuted any of my points, just pointing at the german drive for efficiency as one of the most important reasons to live (for you)
I disagree with this mindset, as life should be much more than just work and no play - which is something that is much more accepted in France than it is in Germany.
Maybe i will be a spießer when i am 35+, but right now i dont want to start throwing my life into a soulless office and come back a wreck every day from work.
I think i would kill myself if all i ever did was work and sleep.
Good on you for enjoying that - its nothing for me.
>>51428360
I can't read the legend due to the small size of the pic.
So what's special about it? Why letters up to U and numbers to 7? Is there any rationale behind it?
I mean apart from having a designed space with row letters and column numbers like excel? Does it serve any purpose?
The repartition of the dots have me confused because they just seem.to be stack randomly, there isn't any organization according to me.
>>51422598
>have no sense of humour at all, not in the sense that they don't crack jokes all day (they certainly don't), but in the sense that they don't even get the jokes when someone else makes them
>believing the meme
>>51428797
Fuck, so.many typos. I hate writing on phone.
Also in general terms I think most people around the world aren't very productive. Por people struggling long hours to meet ends aside, most normal workers do actually between 3-5 hours of actual efficient work a day on average, and spend the rest dicking around.
There's a small minority of incredibly efficient people that can work long hours with high productivity without losing focus. They are the main drivers of the company, so I tend to try to identify them and promote them aggressively (or try to get them in the right position/department, being a work brute doesn't make you a good.manager for example).
The rest of the average joe-do-little are here to take as much menial tasks they can out of the hands of the productive/ smart people.
I'd rather pay two secretaries to handle the expenses and paperwork from a high-prosuctivity guy than to have him lose time on these useless task. Even if he'd do it three or four times more rapidly/efficiently. As some other people can do it I'd rather have him/her focused solely on stuff only he/her can do properly.
>>51423750
>The woman says that she wants a loaf of bread in a way that could also mean that she's going to have a loaf of bread like she is going to have a baby.
>The baker thinks she means that she will have a bread instead of a baby and is surprised.
>An alright joke but not so good when explained like this.
Getting this insight into a German's understanding of humour must be a similar feeling to asking a dog who has just been given the gift of speech his opinions on the Eritrean Civil War.
Well, if the Netherlands let's in 60k syrians and it's a national disaster, Germany let's in 1800k Syrians without a hitch.
That's pretty efficient if you ask me.
>>51425753
I'm with you, Italy-bro. Both the examples you gave are pretty standard banter amongst friends. Germans and their little brothers in Austria clearly can't handle the banter.
>>51428964
Thanks. I suppose I'm not really work-averse, morseso a person who works better in short bursts. Sitting there for 8.5 hours as the outside goes from dark to bright to dark sucks my soul.
>>51430345
yes two cocks up your ass at the same time instead of one is more efficient
>>51430479
>>51425753
I have pretty much the mirror version of your anecdote:
>have Italians colleagues other for a meeting with important people
>first guy is slightly more punctual so we start small-talking while waiting for the other
>we are having a lovely chat about his Nona recipe of ragu
>Other guys come, one of them is wearing a similar outfit to the first guy (same colors and patterns of shirts and suit)
>make a joke about them being a cute couple and calling each other every morning to combine their outfit.
>awkward silence.jpeg
>first guy proceed to talk to.me.extensively about his beautiful feminine wife while the other wouldn't talk to me for the rest of the day.
What is offensive changes across cultures.
What a shocker!
Also banter isn't exactly a good form of communication unless you extensively know the person. I learnt it the hard way in a.multicultural wor environment
>>51430886
The amount of typos and autocorrect fails makes my eyes burn.
Yet I'm still too lazy to reread and spell-check before posting.
>mfw I'll never be german
german humor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oB6DN5dYWo
>>51417816
You even did a funny tv show about it.
>>51431228
Holy shit!! I have been looking for this video for years!!
I have to make a Spanish sub of it for out next safety audit.
I've worked in both the US and also did a 1 yr stint in Frankfurt (I work in finance)
In the US, workers will check their phone every 5 minutes, chat with their coworkers excessively, get up to get a drink or snack every now and then because they are fat fucks, come back late from their lunch etc.
In Frankfurt at least it was the complete opposite. People were pretty focused on what they were doing and were always on time.
Regarding being on time, in the US there would always be one employee somewhere in the chain who didn't do something fully or at least not on time. This wouldn't really be punished and for the most part wouldn't be socially ostracized. In Germany, not doing your work on time seemed to be a death knell.
TLDR Germans were much more focused when they were at work and thus got a lot more done in a shorter time period
>>51416795
>Germans see work as a hobby and part of life
Same goes for Finland. It's pretty great. :D
>>51431228
This is actually an educational video and is shown in every trade school.
Its supposed to teach something about work safety
>>51431228
It's actually funny.
>>51418015
Thats because germans can only be happy when crushing theyre enemies under tons of stronk german steel.
>>51437802
Was kann schöner sein, als ein Söldnerschwein zu sein ?
>>51431228
At first I was like Aw come on it can't be that bad
then I penguin'd
>>51424669
>--------
>>Why are there so few blacks on cruises to America?
>>They won't fall for that one again
>------
This one was actually good.
>>51416557
"Oh ja, arbeiten macht mir Spaß, ich bin Deutsch, mein Name ist Hans, ich esse Currywurst und trinke Bier und mein Lieblingsspiele ist Flughafen-Feuerwehr Simulator zwei tausend dreizehn!"
