/int/这里有中国人/华人/话讲中文的人吗?
Anybody speak Chinese here?
>>50995140
我会说一点儿汉语。你是中国人还是外国人?
Ni hao and no, but I've spent the entire day struggling through Chinese folk speaking English and i'm convinced you guys are on some insanely high meta trolling level.
I took Chinese in college for about two weeks.
My favorite word is "shay shay" (You're Welcome)
>>50995140
A little bit. Elementary level, though.
>>50995371
Who the fuck is Andy Lou?>>50995228
我是中国人
>>50995228
>>50995432
啊,你常常来这儿吗?
>>50995468
Dont worry Bruce Im ginger, ain't a fuckin chink
>>50995432
Andy Lau
很遗憾我没有去过澳洲,不过我有朋友在你们那儿
>>50995546
Do I look like I'm waving a Hong Kong flag?
>>50995546
He's HKer, Chinamann is like this.
I'm learning chinese. Been waiting a long time for a thread like this, whenever I post one it just dies.
>>50995671
Keep your traps to yourselves Japan.
However, we do appreciate the amount of porn you guys make. Stay classy.
Chinese can't into their own character :^)
>>50995645
confirmed for worse than Hitler+Mao
don't even know his own country's meme.
刘德华=chinks studying in Germany
>>50995419
Nobody cares m8
>>50995755
Chinese traps are better tho.
>>50995786
I don't listen to pop artists like 刘德华 man. Contemporary C-pop/K-pop/whatever pop a shit.
>>50995140
the CCP was a mistake
>>50995140
"Ni hao" and "gwailo" is the only thing I know.
And I'm sure it'd turn into "horse carrot" or something if I actually tried to pronounce it.
>>50995772
>Shinzo Abe
>rustling the collective jimmies of China every day
But yeah, you do have a certain point. You Japs have done a good job preserving aspects of Chinese culture that have been 86'd by MUH KMT and MUH GLORIOUS CCP. It's a shame really, we can't even into traditional characters nowadays except for calligraphy.
GONGCHANDANG HAO!
GONGCHANDANG HAO!
Do the words "gwailo" and "laowai" have negative connotations in Chinese?
>>50995842
God damn it.
it's just a pun
刘 stay
德 Germany
华 chinks
Is it so hard to understand?
Nobody gives too much attention on Andy Lau's musical career anyway, he is a movie star after all.
>>50995954
老外 just means foreigner. You'll be called a laowai if you go to china. Itms nothing derogatory.
>>50995866
Yeah, it probably was. Many people got fucked over by post-Liberation party policies. To be fair though, Chiang was just as incompetent as Mao was ignorant.
>>50995939
So the impression we've gotten is correct and you basically had your culture wiped clean? How is that even possible?
>>50996003
谢谢
Thanks m8
>>50995939
Why can't China abandon MUH COMMIE? If China can it, Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong and China will become families again tbqh.
>>50996002
Oh... I get the pun now.
>>50996057
I wouldn't go far as to say wiped though. It's just there might be big propaganda posters hanging outside my home that espouse Confucian values but rest assured we live in a consumerist society now, giving up many of traditional aspects of our culture, even the once glorious honorific system has been degraded to 先生 and 小姐 and whatnot.
>>50996127
You guys got your shit together since Meiji Restoration. I do hope we can someday because this "communist" facade can't keep up forever.
>>50996371
i was told 小姐 often refers to prostitutes now so you shouldnt use it?
>>50996448
女士 I suppose would be more politically correct.
Nowadays, I'm hearing a lot of 帅哥 and 美女 though
>>50996448
Yeah it literally translates to "little sister" and is kind of a euphemism for prostitutes.
>>50996057
But the same thing has happened to the nordic countries, our culture now and 100 years ago are completely different. Todays culture is so artificial.
>>50996680
The difference is we never had a culture in the first place.
> inb4 anything you say to the contrary
No, we really don't. Ur-Swedish is only the barbarism, and just because it was Reinfeldt who said it doesn't make it any less true
>>50996680
Forgive my ignorance, but how bad is it for Northern Europe? You guys always score high on those happiness index lists, so... is it the large amount of immigration influx then?
Southeast Asia and China
>>50996765
Not Northern European, but NZ's culture has been destroyed by multiculturalism. 100 years ago we considered ourselves British. All white people were British. British pride and all that very strong. Now days a white person doesn't even know where the fuck their family is from. There is no "British NZ" and all that shit.
>>50996765
It's just peachy, as long as you're a native and isn't living in the ghetto.
And it's not like the ghetto dwellers are living in want, of anything physical anyway.
The gang crime is becoming a bit of a nuisance however, people have taken to using grenades for assassination for some reason, besides just shooting each other which is happening more and more frequently.
And of course we just went up to full 4/5 terror alert yesterday when what I hope was a prank call of some sort resulted in the arrest of this guy today, at an immigration facility no less.
But other than that it's still just fine. I mean, it's like a fruit fly landing on your ice cream really in terms of proportions. It doesn't affect day-to-day living, besides the Romanian gypsy beggars sitting in literally every street corner, but they're harmless really. One of them tried to grab my baby nephew when my sister was walking past but it was probably just a case of mental illness, they hardly have access to that where they come from, the poor things.
>>50996853
Fuck, you guys don't have genealogy records like we do? Preserve that bloodline man.
On a different note, I get the feeling white people can't have their own culture anymore. I mean, I wouldn't know what it feels like to be Anglo-Saxon, but it once seemed like a honor to be so. Nowadays, you gotta make room for all of the minorities. Been planning on moving to the States, I wouldn't want to be a FOB who forces his own culture over the predominant one.
>>50995140
Nope... but gentlemen in OP's picture seems to be familiar.
>>50997019
That's Jiang Zemin, our meme status former leader.
>>50996937
That sounds more in line of what I've heard. Dat surge of immigrants though, now that's bound to create problems in the future.
>>50996994
>I mean, I wouldn't know what it feels like to be Anglo-Saxon, but it once seemed like a honor to be so
We're literally changing our flag because we no longer want to associate ourselves with the Union Jack. It's a fucking disgrace.
>>50997080
It's going to be a continuation of the pre-existing conditions: welfare ghettos. This is nonnegotiable because of the conditions of the first-generation immigrants from e.g. Somalia.
The question is only how many second and third generation immigrants are going to slip through the mesh. As of now it seems like the majority, but this might change.
/int/这里有中国人/华人/话讲中文的人吗?
沒有人說中文,當然沒有,絕大多數人不說中文
>>50995772
perfect!
>>50997333
All memes aside your country isn't actually beyond hope. It's clear your center right party (I forget the name, the one your media call fascist) is a lot more right leaning than they openly admit to. Every anti-immigration party in Europe knows they need to appear less right wing than they really are to get elected. Once you have a government of people who are genuinely anti-immigration and have control of the state propoganda machine shit can change pretty quickly.
>>50997126
Isn't NZ part of the Commonwealth?
>>50997342
的确不多,毕竟
>4chan
>>50997424
>Isn't NZ part of the Commonwealth?
Yes ofcourse, and most white people here are Irish or English. But no one here wants to associate ourselves with British culture or anything like that. We like the British royalty, but detest the fact we were founded as a British colony. It's fucking retarded.
>>50997424
因為中文是不可能成為世界語言
>簡體中文再簡單,還是得用背才學的會
>>50997401
They aren't going to get direct control and I pray they will not because they are utterly incompetent in terms of leadership or anything besides populism, no matter if they are correct in the immigration issue. Just a bunch of anti-intellectual thugs for the most part.
People are voting for them out of despair.
>>50995140
isn't the government cracking down on VPNs now? Do all the Chinanons have to buy 4chan passes?
>>50997537
>>50997537
>Just a bunch of anti-intellectual thugs for the most part.
You're right they're not intelligent, but neither are any of your other politicians. We live in an age where someone with a fucking English literature degree can become the minister of finance (happened here). They would definitely be a better government than your existing "moderates" who ignore very serious problems. Also, how can you really call them populist when that's precisely what your current government does, spout buzzwords like diversity etc. How is that not populism?
>>50997464
Good for you guys, I've got a friend in Auckland. Cheers.
>>50997503
英语一开始也不为起眼的语言,现在目前咱们都在用它啊 汉语即使成为不了什么通用语但是以后的影响力绝对会加大
>>50997537
To provide a contrast, it would be as if the Pirate Party was suddenly put into majority. Something for the history books, like that time the United States had a president who basically did nothing but go and eat chicken and drink beer at the local bar until he was impeached.
>>50995140
天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 劉曉波 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 劉曉波
>>50997616
你也想想看英語這門語言是花多久時間才爬到這個位置的
>>50997598
It isn't really, people like you and me just don't understand it.
I'm the son of a sociologist and I've come to realize there's a lot more to this stuff than what can be expressed in interview clips and speeches.
>>50997617
I heard they were the biggest party at the moment though. Granted it's not enough to get into government since the left has a coalition, but there's room to grow for sure.
Also
>To provide a contrast, it would be as if the Pirate Party was suddenly put into majority. Something for the history books, like that time the United States had a president who basically did nothing but go and eat chicken and drink beer at the local bar until he was impeached.
Kek we had a PM like this. He was a drunk and beat his wife. Ended up getting kicked out of office.
>>50997683
According to some measurements, they're the biggest party amongst men. But both sides are also playing dirty with the polls and I don't know what data to trust
The government is pseudo-censoring crime statistics and other such things in order to not "fuel the fire" - basically not publishing it, and dropping reports from the record when they're too controversial
>>50996448
in Taiwan, it has two meanings
>whore
>A Miss
>>50997640
>traditional and simplified Chinese
Gee, we've got a case of the autism right here.
>>50997657
罗马不是一天建成的这个道理我明白,但是你也不得否认华语对后日的世界影响力肯定会提高>>50997617
>Pirate Party
top kek
>>50997589
Here's the current situation: you can see all of the keks and annie-mays and butthurt collectively known as 4chan just fine here but the CAPTCHA won't load even with a proxy. Lurked on 4chan on and off these few years and yes, I just got my 4chan pass yesterday in fact.
>>50997806
說到簡體中文,我認為有必要重新改一遍
>一律使用草書楷化
>使用既有的簡化部首
>不應該使用使用民間的俗體字
>>50996853
sheep and hobbits are british
>>50997907
Fucking Chiang sold out the entire Outer Mongolia to the Soviets. You guys can have the Northeast for all I care, Manchus and Ethic Koreans all up in there. I'll give you 6/10 for slightly rustling my jimmies ever so.
>>50997898
咱们汉语这个语言不用进行系统化的改革。。。太多七里八里的词儿阻碍着统一 光讲官话的地方方言差异以解决更何粤语和客家话这种远方方言。
>>50996853
>NZ's culture
NZ is originally Maori land
>>50996994
Trust me, you would be welcome in the US, come to massachusetts.
ni hao ma
cao ni ma
>>50997616
english only gained popularity because of the british empire followed by the american empire, china has neither the hard power or the soft power for that kind of influence, english is likely to stay
>>50998072
Been thinking about finding a nice New England town to settle in... You guys have good schools that's for sure. I mean, there are things like chopsticks I would stick to at home, but I've seen the ways lots of Chinese immigrants act overseas. Overseas students in particular give us a bad name what with blabbering Chinese everywhere in campus, being ungrateful and cheating like their life depends on it (most do.) When in Rome, do as the Romans do amirite?
>>50995408
zai jian
>>50998196
Don't betray the Party
>>50998196
You're welcome in NZ. Chinese immigrants here are viewed positively, though some Polynesians might give the occasional racist remark (But white people hate Polynesians way more than any Chinese)
>>50997464
>We like the British royalty, but detest the fact we were founded as a British colony.
Pretty sure we don't. It's only hipsters who want to change the flag.
I tried because I had yellow fever.
It's died down but I still want to inseminate a Chinese qt.
>>50998374
Tfw already did. Now I have 2 half Chinese kids.
>>50997907
North korea is the best korea.I want to be a North Korean!!
>>50998888
dem quads
tfw i will have one of those early next year, got a lot of work ahead to make sure he doesn't become a supreme gentleman
>>50998196
>>50998286
chinks who integrate are ok, the ones just coming over because their 'rich' parents want an exit strategy and a place to hide their ill-gotten gains out of the CCP's reach can fuck off though
>>50998888
opinion on tvis?
>>50996747
>>50995954
Gwailo is offensive, but you'll only hear it in Cantonese parts, and even then, I don't think they particularly hate foreigners, they just happen to have a slur for it.
OP, are you in the /int/ QQ group? What city are you from.
>>50995140
這裡為什嗎 都大陸人離開
>>50996002
how can a character "flower" (华) mean "chink" at the same time?? you usually smell like soy sauce and shit, flowers smell nice
>>50999602
Changsha.
>>50999972
花is flower, 华is like the Chinese people
>>50999602
What is the /int/ QQ Group number if I may ask?
>>51000105
都沒人講中文,最好是有人用QQ啦
>>50995578
>我有朋友在你们那儿
wo you pengyou zai nimen nar
wtf does this mean? i have a friend here where are you?
also is it right to say
wo shuo yi diar zhongwen
or
wo shuo yi dian zhongwen
>>50998888
>it's a boy
you done goofed up m8
>>51000125
I don't mind, a place to brush up my chatting skills would be nice.
>>51000131
It means I have a friend over there (in Aus)
On the note of the "r" Northerners use it more than we do, but the main problem with your usage is
>missing a "can" (会)
Hence, the proper sentence would be
>我会说一点(儿)中文
>>51000234
answer>>50999412
>>51000249
>youtube
My proxy's acting up, mind giving a quick recap of the video?
大家好
我的肉棒常時bing-bing也
>>50999972
華(hua2 overseas chinese) != 花 (hua1 flower)
>>51000452
well at least traditional characters are different
>>51000452
While 華 is a surname, it is same as 花 or 化
>>50999972
dual meaning
Ching nong nip nong?
>>51000452
not only overseas, they sometimes call their own country zhong hua instead of zhong guo
>簡體字 in this thread
I feel a little sick desu
>>51000714
>簡體字
blame mao 2bh f.a.m
>>51000714
詞
[spoiler]how do you say WORD in chinese[/spoiler]
>>51000750
>Simplified Chinese
>Russian was mastermind
>>51000806
mao wasn't russiaman
我怨恨共産主義者
共産主義者打死!
>>51000750
you literally can't
it is not a commie invention, it was proposed during the new culture and may fourth
新文化/五四 运动
only crazy people like to link it with mao and communism, are you crazy too
>>50995140
我会写一点。我讲得中文好一点。
>>51000903
why didn't taiwan, hk and macao change to simplified ?
>>51000977
policy reasons.preserving chinese culture shit.
>>51000977
because they don't believe in the new culture / -may fourth their division specifcally excludes from the progressive movement in the 20s and singapore does even doe they are not a part of china, it is beyond ideology
>>51000977
Simplification of characters was program by the Communist Party to encourage literacy among peasants. HK and Macau were colonies at the time and are still autonomous today. Taiwan was independent of course and still use zhuyin fuhao.
>>51000977
simplified a shit
>>51000977
because they're hideous, and traditional is extremely easy to write if you actually sit down and work
>>51000977
Why would we?
>think about making Russian into defective Russian spelling
>>51001040
>>51001021
>>51001002
but did the simplification really made thing more simple ?
CУHЬ ХУЙ B ЧAЙ, УЗКOГЛAЗЫЙ
>>51000977
HK is mada. HKer uses traditional Hanzi.
>>51001056
yeah I think so
>>51001093
Not that much really. If you know one system, it is very easy to learn the other system It changed parts of characters. For example 學 became 学 and 說 became 说. I guess it is not unlike UK spelling and US spelling.
>>51001093
you still will need to know traditional even in china, it does appear
china imports a lot of books from hk and tw and they don't bother with reprinting it
it is easier to write with but beyond that with ideology and history it is totally inconsistent
even the traditional characters are simplified from the kangxi dictionary which was published just under 300 years ago
so when they say they are "preserving culture" it is probably safe to see it as farce
>>51001088
we had a "simplification" too when commies came, but really you can't compare simplification of an alphabetic system to a hieroglyphic one
>>51001150
some words are easy but some are completely different. for e.g. 盡 = 尽
>>51001234
are these words related or the simplified just loosely resembles shape of the traditional one ?
>>51001093
>but did the simplification really made thing more simple ?
no, they made new characters instead of simplifying
Simplified is design for Mandarin
>What is the problem
Mandarin has fuck tons of homophone, write them in different ways is the only way to distinguish the ambiguity.
Also
>Both of us have to take Classic Chinese class
in the meantime
>Simplified Chinese is for Modern Chinese only. it would have lots of problems
>>51001184
Russian Language has strict spelling rule(with several exceptions).
Although it had been simplified, it's still very regular.
>>51001234
Some of the simplifications, I just cannot accept, for example where they replaced and merged characters
幹 -- 干
醜 -- 丑
穀 -- 谷
髪,發 -- 发
wtf, stop
>>51001394
And some seem completely pointless e.g.
涼 - 凉
Actually I don't get why 言 radical needed to be changed either
zing zang ping pong won ton chin man?
>>51001323
開關悶們捫簡問聞
How do Traditional Chinese user memorize them?
>belong to radical 門, memorize the other parts of the words
>問,memorize 口 is inside the 門
>>51000750
This shit started with the Kuomintang, it's just that Mao had a hard-on for anything against traditional culture so a lot of the Simplified Chinese characters were probably done out of spite.
>>51001517
actually if started after the treaty of versailles
>>51001517
Don't blame.
Simplified it self was designed for eliminating Chinese characters
>>51000868
Well, sure, be my guest, most of us are neutral anyways, as long as there is peace and harmony and prosperity within the nation, go right ahead.
>>51000903
The whole May Fourth movement was a classic example of shitting over anything and everything. Change for the utter sake of change is pointless, I mean, you can't seriously expect to uproot thousands of years of Confucian culture overnight senpai.
>>51000977
It's as easy to type in tradition Chinese as in simplified, why bother? Hand writing is so last century.
>>51001544
It was a long making in the process that's for sure.
>>51001558
That's right, despite being considered MUH CULTURAL SPHERE the commoners and peasants of old had a shockingly low literacy rate. No wonder the most remembered Great Four Novels were written in vernecular Chinese.
>>51001590
>expect to uproot thousands of years of Confucian culture overnight senpai
that was the hope
it was to counter the shame of losing more land
i mentioned it because people always accuse the commies for starting it, it wasn't
they are only responsible for finishing it
at the time they believed everything confucian was holding china back, literature, fashion, government etc
They should just replace the characters with emoji. Get on with the times.
On a scale of 1 to nanking rape, how painful is Jingwei's Mandarin?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzNraiqilQc
>>51001639
>shockingly low literacy rate
If so, why we could eliminate the rate without using simplified?
>>51001679
they already are emojis
>>51001102
>CУHЬ ХУЙ B ЧAЙ, УЗКOГЛAЗЫЙ
http://www.online-translator.com/
your site,tovarishi
continental red monkeys cerntainly abandoned traditional one for stupid creepy communism...
they are the retardest people in the history of mankind
Of the simplification of Chinese
>Simplified Chinese is worse than Kanji
Ni hao wo shi ta ma de xDDD
>>51001739
monkeys are not people
japanese in charge of subject agreement
>>51001739
i like how japanese teach korean kanji,without japanese empire korean don't know shit
>>50995140
I have been taking a course since may but I dont have enough time to practice, so I'm pretty shit at it
>>50997806
>CAPTCHA won't load even with a proxy
Bull fucking shit. I used 4Chin when I was in China with a proxy and it worked just fine.
This thread is about special olympics of writing systems.
Which of the retards wins?
>>51001698
Not trying to defend Simplified Chinese man, it's just a force of habit for me. My best guess is that Taiwan got their shit together early, Mainland's bureaucracy is goddamn nightmareish inefficient. It helps that you guys also speak roughly the same dialect.
>>51001672
Despite the whole INVADE CHINA thing, you gotta give credits to the Japs. Their Meiji Restoration was a sound plan, saving their asses from being fucked by imperialistic powers. The Qing government tried to emulate the success of Meiji, but to little avail. Getting our asses kicked in the First Sino-Japanese War didn't help as well. People got panicky, they wanted to find a scapegoat for their problems. And Confucianism was their answer.
>>51001867
japan, they sometimes use 3 at the same time
>>51001867
suomi
>>51001810
Korean Kanji !? what?
Korean Kanji is the Chinese traditional character, right?
>>51001946
i mean you teach korean how to write chinese traditional character.
>>51001810
Technically they were always in use in Korea, in the form of the Chinese language itself. Koreans had keked themselves out of using the Korean language for anything other than speech, which is why it's now so undeveloped compared to the elaborate norms of Japanese.
我现在学中国。你好!
>>51001895
>Meiji Restoration was a sound plan
They always had a dualistic system of government
the shogun vs emperor thing really made westernization absolute, they would have it either way
while the china had been about authority and centralization, the qing bureaucracy kept modernization subservient to their uses, like the ever victorious army, there was no way to get westernization to replace the chinese bureaucracy like japan did with the creation of their parliament
>>51001895
trust me, using simplified eliminating illterates, easy to learn are excuses for politicians to brianwash
>>51002048
Are you insane? That's about as coherent as anything which comes out a flat earther's mouth.
>>51001736
Just visited Hong Kong last month, you guys have clean streets and orderly rules. Noice.
>>51001825
Last year or so I could post fine. But recently, that CAPTCHA image simply won't load for the love of [insert deity here]. I shit you not.
>>51002007
>Hangul
If memory serves me right, the Koreans still use Chinese characters for places and names right?>>51002024
One of the biggest reasons as to "why did China fall" is the whole ethnocentrism policy that has carried on for dynasties. When the West rose to power, the Qing Dynasty did fuckall to answer. Japan got scared straight after the Matthew Perry Incident but China never truly woke up.
>>51002048
I kind of like Simplified for Mandarin because it takes so many characters to write down what you say that having them all be traditional is overkill, but I've been reading too much classical poetry and the old language is very short and concise. Good stuff.
Cao Cao was the best leader desu
>>51002000
Soon he needs to teach them again, since they realised that sticks and circles aren't enough.
>>51002117
Korean language is chock full of Chinese words and yes, that means nearly all place names were converted into Chinese at some point but actually using the characters is now decorative. Hangul predominates.
>>51002130
Lots of people compared Mao to Cao Cao senpai.
>>51002048
I'm all for Taiwanese redpilling (My godmother is from Taipei herself) but I seriously doubt how simplified Chinese=brainwashing. It's a poorly executed writing system as best.
>>51002117
>Last year or so I could post fine. But recently, that CAPTCHA
I was in Benxi just this July and the proxy worked fine for me. Only hard thing was finding a channel moot haven't blocked or banned for shitposting.
why do continental Chinese people have no fashion sense?
black cap, black glasses, red coat, red pants and yellow shoes
they are totally lame...
>>51002130
desu he trusted his relatives too much
his xiahou cousins are okay but his cao cousins were terrible, abusing their offices
and he rarely heed good advice
sun quan was best leader they just ran out of good officers
>>51002185
bit of an insult to cao cao desu
mao was a major league fuck up.
>>51002123
To be honest, if you were going to read Modern Chinese, Simiplified is ok.
>Reading old stuff
Classic Chinese tend to express a meaning with changing a single word's part of speech, and very contextual.
Simplified Chinese vocabs must have two words to distinguish ambiguity while this theory isn't suitable for Classic Chinese
>>50995140
Had to for business. Honestly one of the better languages to learn. Still made the idiot mistake of referring to my contact as a cat.
Since when were Chinese able to post on 4chan
>>51002185
>seriously doubt how simplified Chinese=brainwashing
Simiplified Chinese was a temporary method for Romanizing Chinese.
>even title of newspapers shows the goal is romanized Chinese.
>What about brainwashing?
Look that those people who agree Simiplified Chinese is masterpiece.
>>51002391
you only need vpn
>>51002243
Hmmm... well I tried Clover and the website itself. Strange. Then again, I normally just lurk unless something triggers me.
>>51002295
Just sayin' what people are saying.
>>51002246
Muh glorious glf and cultural revolution did a toll fashion wise. Kids used to wear proper suit and ties to school, now the Ministry of Education shoves baggy sportswear right down their throats.
>>51002296
Yeah, I realized the hypocrisy of reciting Classical texts back in grade school with Mandarin and Simplified Chinese. As a Southerner, there is still resentment of the government shoving the traditionally northern Mandarin to us. We use it but older people still opt to conversate
>>51002442
in their respective dialects. My hometown's dialect is apparently part of Southwest Mandarin but try getting a guy straight out of Beijing to understand what my folks back home say...
I met some qts from Guangzhou the other night at a language exchange. They were really friendly and changed my preconceptions of mainlander Chinese. Though they were obviously from a family wealthy enough to travel and send them to university.
What's it like being Chinese?
the dialect things has to do with the massive movement of people for collectivization and industrialization before and after the civil war, mostly after as people from different regions flood into other parts they had to try to make everyone speak the same thing
since wu does not have a written form it really just made it much easier to accept the mandarin methods, it would be nice to see the difference forms of wu actually have their respective characters realized since many of their sayings are unrecognizable in mandarin
>>51002583
>They were really friendly
People in China are actually pretty respectful of foreigners in the sense of "Oh my god a foreigner I've never seen one except on television" , at least where I came from.
I remember seeing a foreigner at McDonalds in China where there was a seemingly Spanish guy and someone struck up a conversation with him wanting to know where he's from.
Op can you do a vocaroo, let's see if the chinese people can understand what you're saying.
>>51002678
I mean the non-china chinese people*
>>51002583
If you are upper class, everything is swimmingly except for the high prices of overseas brands and the pressure of flaunting your richness daily. Life can very rough for labor workers however...
>>51002608
侬好额 阿拉是桑嘿nin
That would be my interpretation of Wu into Simplified Chinese. Shanghaiese (the popular dialect of Wu) was crushed by the CCP back in the day, but now the government supports the preservation of Shanghaiese within Shanghai. Problem is, youngsters do not even know their mother tongue anymore; it's like New Yorkers not knowing how to "tawk".
>>51002678
What's that?
>>51002741
vocaroo.com
record yourself speaking
>>51002741
Vocaroo.com
說幾句話,錄下來,po上這帖子裡
坦白說,有時大陸人的中文真的聽不懂
>>51002767
>>51002793
Alright, gimmie me a sec.
>>51002793
其實我也聽不懂他們的普通話
>>51002741
there is the shanghainese proper that is allowed on tv and radio
then there is the shanghainese rural, seen as backwards and old
outside of that there is border with northern zhejiang
a long time ago suzhou was the prestige wu dialect
nin is 人 btw
>>51002836
Used to date a QT from Xuhui, yeah their system is messed up.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0fe6G0NFFiz
Got a bit of a cold, sorry
My Dad is Li Gang.
>>51002896
top kek
First time I have seen this meme in English.
I really like all of Stephen Chow's movies. What other Chinese actors/directors should I check out? Thanks.
>>51002883
You sound like a sports commentator
>>51002883
You have a good English accent. Are you the Shanghai dude? I just joined this thread.
>>51002883
>that honk
This sperglord said out loud "I'm OP on 4chan" in public while crossing the road
>>51002883
Sounds all right. I was told that my northern accent gets especially obvious when I'm excited when I talk in Chinese with my friends.
I was on a tour this year in China and I was told that my accent was really strong when I don't even know it.
>>51002980
No one in China knows what 4chan is, most don't even have internet access. No one would understand anyway.
>>51002980
he probably just has the window open
>>51002980
No one knows of 4chan here, like I give a shit.
>>51002978
I had a Canadian tutor back in the day.
>>51002741
Was there any other way to deal with the linguistic disunity of the Chinese people? The state needed a common language, one that could actually be spoken, so they chose Beijing Mandarin which already was the language of the court in the north. At least, that's how I see it. I mean, it is kind of sad, but elsewhere traditional idioms have also been mostly destroyed by standardization - in France, Germany, even Russia. The French in particular forced the whole country to speak Parisian French, and the Germans created what is largely an artificial language out of a number of dialects. Russians made everyone speak the Moscow dialect with copious South Slavic influence. I mean, isn't it simply the nature of life right now? Having multiple varieties of a single language is no longer sustainable, and the influence of English as the single global language is ever growing.
>>51003012
>northern accent
>>51003034
In retrospect, having an united manner of speaking was for the best. My hometown is like two hours away from Mao's and I have no clue what the fuck they are saying. Cantonese is one province away and they sound like aliens to me. The pros outweigh the cons in this case. They went a little too hard with the eradication of local dialects however.
>>51003023
Yeah, probably wasn't the best idea.
>>50995140
mfw i understand cantonese but i can neither write nor speak with the correct tone
>>51003034
some do actually survive
even though mao and ccp has been quite adamant about standardizing spoken chinese it is not sufficient to change culture
there is still a whole schools of opera in china that continue to be staged in their perspective dialect, the media might enforce spoken mandarin but outside of that there is still some examples of variations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zEPFioaAA8
>>51003239
Dialects still exist, it's just the fact that many of them have been washed by the presiding Mandarin dialect.
>>51003175
If they speak real slow, I can interpret their meanings most of the time. The tones aren't the problem for me; it's the Cantonese-exclusive vocabulary that gets me.
>>51003012
Personally, I like the voice of Northerners. Southern accents tend to be nasal in nature.
>>51003440
I do in fact need to brush up on my Chinese. I don't use it much except when communicating with family members so I thought that whatever accent I may have had would be long gone, given that I can't write Chinese characters anymore.
>>51003589
>I can't write Chinese characters anymore.
and your family isn't upset about it ?
>>51004005
Brush up a little more Chinese, it'll come handy in the future.
how many apartment towers you have seen collapsing?
>>51004953
Shit, the one I'm living in was built only a decade ago and the main foundation was starting to crack. Mainland China can't into architecture. Also, it doesn't help that my city was wiped clean by Chiang's scorched earth policy; everything looks either like Albert Speer's work or muddy huts and buildings.
>>51004005
My grandparents are. But what can you do about it after not practicing for more than ten years?
I can still speak, read and listen well enough to get by though.
