Paradise edition
>>38597392
Dumping some new pics of Paris
>>38597392
>>38597406
Where is that?
>>38597516
wow nice I didn't see it
>>38597540
all pics I posted in this thread so far is Singapore
this city state is fucking astonishing, maybe it doesn't have tall impressive buildings like Dubai but I would say it's equally futuristic
I've never visited a city with more than 500 000 people, these pictures make me feel so funny
I can't wait to visit some of these places
>>38597630
fug I never been in city bigger than Warsaw which is pretty small too
>>38597392
>>38597406
>>38597510
>>38597516
>>38597593
>>38597982
this is some sci-fi tier shit right here
just imagine what our cities will look like in 50 years
>>38598699
Just like 200 years ago.
Ok we will build some new architecture, but still I highly doubt that suddenly a lot will change. Europeans are too focused on past.
>>38598803
atleast here in stockholm the demand for inner city housing is enormous. sooner or later as our population grow we will be forced to build skyscrapers
>>38598878
or you could just sprawl out into the surrounding countryside
>>38598878
I guess Scandinavia will go into modern low rise housing like this more than skyscrapers. Of course you will build some but rather to less extent.
![Sky-Pod-Bar-Sky-Garden-850x425[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/MLcQf4d.jpg "Sky-Pod-Bar-Sky-Garden-850x425[1].jpg")
I love these threads, shame they die quickly.
Here's the very disappointing London walkie talkie sky garden, although it's really just an observation deck with some plants. It has a great view though.
How many of you live in an apartment tower/block, and how much noise do you hear from the other units? I live in a hotel that was converted into apartments. It's a really small bachelor, which I like, with a nice view, but I can hear this constant low murmur from the TVs of my neighbours. It's not very loud, but it's driving me fucking nuts, like a leaky faucet that I have no control over. I'm starting to lose faith in density and cities.
![SOUTH-KOREA-TWIN-TOWERS-911[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Z2yYIho.jpg "SOUTH-KOREA-TWIN-TOWERS-911[1].jpg")
The south korean building design that caused massive butthurt with Americans because they say it resembles the twin towers
>>38599092
i do, and you can barely hear anything. despite that i have some fucking retarded monkey above me who walks around in what sounds like heavy ass fuck boots all day, but it's not like you can hear voices or that stuff
The City, London
By far the biggest financial centre in Europe.
![020943[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3MUkwQM.jpg "020943[1].jpg")
New proposed skyscraper in Warsaw
>>38599015
>I love these threads, shame they die quickly.
Actually two days ago /urban/ + /architecture/ threads was live about 48 hours.
>>38599092
>but I can hear this constant low murmur from the TVs of my neighbours.
Lawl. I have no problems like this in Warsaw.
>>38599092
Depends, in older apartment blocks I often heard my neighbours when they walk around if they didn't have a carpet or when they play music but that's about it. In the new apartment blocks the walls are a lot more soundproof so I can't hear them unless if they're screaming
>>38599135
>they say
it does, it's two towers and a fucking explosion in the middle lol
>>38598803
Stockholm?
>>38599015
Well, it looks nice.
I guess you said it is disappoiting because the renders showed it look more like a jungle?
>>38599196
More like it's 2 towers with a badass design.
Stockholm
>>38599220
It's disappointing because they advertised it as more than it is.
>Well, it looks nice.
not really, it's pretty empty.
>>38598927
That's what the Stockholm metropolitan area is. But there is only so much you can spread outwards from the city center before it becomes a nuisance for businesses and workers, commuting for over an hour or even two to get to work just isn't feasible.
>>38599092
>How many of you live in an apartment tower/block, and how much noise do you hear from the other units
Had a neighbour that played the drums. He was loud. But this only happened once a week or something.
Had a neigbbour that through parties once every few months. They would go on late into the night, and that was annoying.
Had one neighbour, above me, who kept me up all night screaming at her boyfriend. I barely heard him all night, but she was yelling her tits off.
Currently have a neighbour on my floor who very often arrives back at about 11 to 12ish at night; and he never closes the doors quietly in the hallway, or the front door. That is a bit annoying.
All in all, though, the neighbours are fine.
Much worse is the noise of bikes going past (I live in the city centre, so it is quite busy). Bikers who rev their engines unnecessarily should be shot in the head.
Barcelona
>>38599286
Doesn't bother people in London and Paris. An hour commute time for those living in the outer boroughs is pretty normal actually.
>>38599286
>But there is only so much you can spread outwards from the city center before it becomes a nuisance for businesses and workers, commuting for over an hour or even two to get to work just isn't feasible.
That didn't stop us Americans
Rio de Janiero.
>that tree density
>>38599396
Is that Buenos Aires?
>>38599391
Would look friendlier and less monolithic with the outer edges of the balconies rounded off.
![o-HONG-KONG-facebook[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/eXQBeiQ.jpg "o-HONG-KONG-facebook[1].jpg")
>tfw still haven't been able to visit hong kong
>>38599373
>>38599396
looks very strange
Winchester
>>38599500
Great scale
>>38599545
One of Londons best photographs. Love how white/grey it is.
>>38599584
Miami
Johanessburg
Every tree you see was planted manually. There were no natural trees in the area before that.
>>38599746
Jo'burg is a shithole. You can tell it used to be a barren wasteland before they started mining there.
>>38599689
9/10
>>38599716
That new tall one is such a good addition. It is a skyline-defining building.
>>38599809
Can't wait to see it in person
The Gherkin, London.
The old Pinnacle design has to be scrapped.
Here is the new one. Lets just hope that this one is scrapped too, because that thing will stick out like a sore thumb in The City
>>38599974
Not good...
>>38599712
coral gables, to be precise
but even in the suburbs there is more density looming for the future
Oslo
Brasilia
>>38600034
Nice building.
Milan
>>38600070
Demolition when?
>>38600090
Looks disgusting
>>38597392
that feel when no Pzek to clean Singapore's toilets.
>>38600141
Indeed.
Leftist architecture.
London
Capitalism on the Coast
>>38597392
cool
id visit alot if i were close dont worry i know youre full and will respect your space
>you will never live in a world where gigalithic buildings that forego reason exists
Feels awful, fuck physics
>>38598699
I rather not think about it tbh.They will probably be impressive to look at, but living in some overpolluted and overcrowded city where you can't go out without wearing a mask, can't walk properly in a street because there's just too many people and where basolutely everything you eat or drink will be pretty much poisoned doesn't really sound appealing to me. And i'm not talking about the criminality.
Thed nice building won't make much anyway, since you won't be able to properly see them because of the pollution cloud.
>>38600232
Toronto > Auscunt skylines
>>38600292
Damn.
>>38600232
The gold coast has a pretty impressive skyline for it's size
Bath, arguably Britains prettiest city.
It looks better in the day, which is unusual for English cities.
>>38600300
Toronto is a meme
>>38600292
meh, I know that foreigners are often curious about walmarts and our huge shopping malls, but once you've been in one, you've been in all of them. It really just is one big box that looks dumpy from afar.
So an xboxhuege structure like that is cool in theory, but would probably look a lot shittier in real life. And since you're in "the box" you'd rarely have an opportunity to fully take in how expansive and glorious it is compared to a city
>>38600292
>fuck physics
it's possible to build them according to physics but not economics
>>38597593
Really beautiful.i'm a bit worried about the political/cultural side of Singapore, but i'd definitely like to visit it.
>>38599545
London is a cool city but it seems like it tries really hard to have a memorable skyline but just doesn't get it right.
Cozee Bucharest
>>38600464
Ebin.
>>38600466
It's true it willl never have the density and height of New world cities, but it's real charm is on the street level. Still one of my favourite cities.
>>38600296
>tfw Paris is going to host a decisive world climate summit in december
>tfw the government is making a big deal about it
>tfw meanwhile Paris is as polluted as a Chinese city
>>38599809
It's not bad from some angles.
>>38597630
I'm living in a city with population of over 14 millions. It's better to visit big cities, not to live in them. Though i liked Berlin very much, it's my kind of city. if only it had a sea nearby...
>>38600516
I don't think he's wrong. If you asked the average american in the 90s what they thought of london, they probably would have thought that Big Ben +the bridge were the two tallest structures. They hyper-futuristic london is cool, but probably not what most people imagine when they think of the UK
>>38600466
London just has too much disgusting postwar stuff.
Compare the average small building in London to the average small building in Paris.
Londons density is also pretty weak in most parts. You get lots of empty concrete spaces that look dull and ugly.
>>38600124
>Demolition when?
Kek'd so hard
>>38600583
Berlin has less than 4 million in its metropolitan area.
The City, London
>>38600583
Berlin is a "small" big city, that makes it much more enjoyable and good living than other European megalopolis like London or Paris.As far as i'm concerned, 5 millions is the limit from which a city can be nice to live in.
Obligatory
So how long till we see cities like this?
>>38600658
Berlin is a meme city.
It knows it can never compete with London or Paris, so instead of being a serious city it is turning itself into a tourist attraction, rebuilding old quaint buildings for old people to wander around taking pictures.
>>38600658
I know, but it's still a big city. Personally i dislike Moscow where i live and have some plans to move out, definitely abroad. That's not the paradise city, it's more something opposite.
Amsterdam
>>38600705
London doesn't feel like there are 8 million people living there to be honest due to how spread out it is. If you compare the population density of London to Paris London looks like a village.
>>38597516
A few more
>>38600750
No it's not, Berlin is pulsing with life. Just like with London it was bombed to shit, so it doesn't just rely on its beauty like Paris, it actually innovates. Its also not large enough to be claustrophobic and overcrowded like Paris and London are.
>>38600842
Paris >>>>>> Berlin
It is not large enough to be a relevant city.
Berlin is a city for hipsters who want to surround themselves with other failures.
>>38598803
That restaurant on the water is so damn cozy
>>38600842
I noticed the same. It pulses with life and youth . The atmosphere is much more relaxed than in Moscow. In contrast i disliked Amsterdam. what a beautiful city turned into shithole. At least the center.
Helicopter over London
>>38600948
That's because Amsterdam is mostly the prime tourist destination for scumbags across Europe.
>>38600902
Berlin doesn't give a fuck, Paris is the one thats full of pretentious wankers.
>>38600948
I agree, Amsterdam lost its soul. It looks quaint, but nothing happens there apart from high Americans falling into canals. Utrecht is much more fun.
>>38600910
Stockholm
Milan
Far bigger than any German city.
Cardiff, capital of Wales
>>38600808
Greater London has higher density than Paris Metropolitan Area
>>38601084
Germany has a ton of decent-sized cities though. France and UK are sort of "Paris/London+everyone else" while there's not really that one city in Germany.
>>38601084
It's pretty weird for me that both Poland and Germany don't have any big metropolies...
Melbourne Streets
Bristol apartments
It could be Paris
![Paris_metropolitan_area[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/yIZp07j.gif "Paris_metropolitan_area[1].gif")
>>38601125
That's because it's mostly countryside while greater London only includes the city. If you want a fair comparison then you compare Paris metropolitan area to the London commuter belt which is basically the London metropolitan area
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_commuter_belt
>>38601255
>dead trees
>people wearing coats
...straya can into winter?
>>38601337
Melbourne has the coldest winters in the country.
>>38601194
Uneven border between urban and countryside maybe?
>>38601310
>It could be Paris
![apt[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/C5CLiBN.jpg "apt[1].jpg")
I wonder if Koreaboos realise this is what most of south korea looks like
>>38601394
God bless America
>>38600842
>so it doesn't just rely on its beauty like Paris, it actually innovates
I'm certainly not going the one saying that Paris is a nice city to live in, but the all "Paris just rely on the historical buildings" shit really is retarded.Paris is far ahead of Berlin when it comes to modernity and innovation.
The main problem of Paris is that it has grown out of proportion to become some oversized monster, hosting 13 millions people in a 65 millions inhabitants country.
A quaint town an hour or two from Melbourne
>>38601315
Greater London has 8 million and Metropolitan Paris has 10 million so it's basically same shit.
![PHTokyo-PeakLounge[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/wE3goNf.jpg "PHTokyo-PeakLounge[1].jpg")
I really want to visit the new york bar in Tokyo.
>That class
>That view
>>38601520
they know and they like it
also there are better looking condos than this
>>38601817
It's not the same shit at all because Paris metropolitan area goes far out from the city's borders. Just look at the pic I posted. No where in Greater London is close to being as densely populated as the urban areas of paris. Even our most densely populated borough which is Islington.
>>38601163
I see your point and you're right but there still are several cities with 1 million or more inhabitants in France.
![091215-apartments[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/XSFCDGV.jpg "091215-apartments[1].jpg")
>>38601896
>they know and they like it
Well they do have disgusting taste
>also there are better looking condos than this
Which make up a minority. You just need to look on google maps to realise the majority of buildings are similar to this
>>38601905
True, but Paris still utterly dominates France. In Germany, there are a fuckton of little regional cultures and dialects
Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I understand the old culture in Brittany and the South is pretty much dead and replaced with generic "french" culture, which itself if very much parisian-oriented
>>38601898
So what is Paris urban area population and density?
>>38600818
>>38601163
We have quite a lot of big cities in the UK, unavoidable really since England has the highest population density in Europe.
>>38602073
>We have quite a lot of big cities in the UK
No you don't. Outside of London theres literally nothing over 2 million. If you think that is big than you should travel some more.
>>38602049
>Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I understand the old culture in Brittany and the South is pretty much dead and replaced with generic "french" culture
No that's not really true, it's just French people being French, and going full retarded wanting to cut some head off, making big deals over nothing. The regional cultures in Britanny, Corsica, Alsace or Pays basque still are very strong. Some things like the language are declining yes, but this has nothing to do with some parisian masterplan, it's just how the world is going. Globalisation is to blame for that, not Paris or anything else.
>>38599092
I live in a little house but I used to live in flats. One house would have parties that were loud but most were okay. When that one flat had parties I'd just hit the roof with a broom every now and then and get shouted at for it. When I had parties they'd try to do the same thing through the floor and it didn't work so well.
>>38601988
what's with the same design building all over the place?
>>38602052
Paris had 13 millions inhabitants at the last census, and 22K inhabitant/km2
>>38602066
Some work in progress in la défense suburbs, where half-a-dozen new skyscrapers are planned to be build by the end of 2015
>>38602052
Did you bother checking the picture I posted here >>38601315 ? The orange areas are the built up areas. The rest is countryside.
Greater London has a population density of 1,572.00 km2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London
Compare that to the populated areas of Paris metropolitan area of 6,766/km2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%8Ele-de-France#Demographics
>>38602147
That's the city proper, that's like saying paris has only 2 million people
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_urban_areas_in_the_United_Kingdom
>>38602307
plus a stadium
i drove by yesterday night and the huge illuminated concrete structure looked cool and ominous at the same time.
i love driving around la défense at night
>>38601988
whats your point? majority of buildings in every country is shit
>>38602307
and they are all manlet skyscrapers
Ranking of the most beautiful Western European countries, 2015:
1. France
2. Italy
3. Switzerland
4. UK
5. Belgium
6. Spain
7. The Netherlands
8. Portugal
9. Germany
Birmingham, England
>>38602365
No it isn't. Even your largest metro areas outside of London are around 2.5, and they are not consolidated cities, just a collection of different towns that sprawl into one another.
>>38602224
>22K inhabitant/km2
This is density of Paris proper which includes 2mil
>>38602314
But this link you gave http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London
says London has 5,354/km2
>>38602425
>austria missing
>ireland missing
"Sydney - It's no Toronto"
What do you think of my motto for Sydney? It was the best I could do.
>>38602391
>majority of buildings in every country is shit
We don't all live in eastern Europe Commieblocks don't make up the majority of cities in western Europe.
>>38602515
>Austria
>Western European
Ireland is included with the UK, as is customary.
>>38602392
Not being higher than the Eiffel tower has been a requierement for skyscrapers so far, so the highest is only 231m, and i'm fine with it tbh. They are pushing it to the limit tho.The eiffel tower is 324m high, and there's already several project for 320m high skyscrapers.
>>38602534
Majority of buildings in UK and France are shit too m8.
>>38602518
>comparing those cities
London, capital of the West.
>>38602483
>just a collection of different towns that sprawl into one another.
So a metropolitan area basically.
![Lyon_rue_jardin_des_plantes_01[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ggGFE24.jpg "Lyon_rue_jardin_des_plantes_01[1].jpg")
>>38602620
>That
>shit
ok m8, this is shit too I guess.
>>38602620
Gorgeous. Bet that tree feels special.
>>38602307
>>38602689
Nope. Real cities grow out from the inner core and have a consolidated feel to them. They may have some regional centres around the Metro area but they are essentially focused towards to centre.
>>38602737
>window reflection
Triggered
Where do you live? so I can come and murder you.
>>38602805
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metropolitan_areas_in_the_United_Kingdom
So these aren't metropolitan areas?
Bucharest has great scale and consistancy for a Europoor city.
>>38602763
it's a big tree
>>38602376
True, with the appropriate music, driving at night through La défense is quite a nice experience.
Cerne Abbas, Dorset, South England
Is South England the greatest place in the world?
>>38602886
For you.
Constantine
>>38602955
>watermark
Pleb
>>38602748
It's not shit but it's nothing interesting it's just plain house like plain commieblock in SK
and what's your point in bullying SK?
The City, London
I have highlighted the three best buildings in the area, so you plebs can learn some taste.
>>38603035
stop this edginess kid, your image resolution is far more pleb
![alger-la-blanche2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kjhCGn8.jpg "alger-la-blanche2[1].jpg")
>>38603035
What I hate about arabs is how they ruined once beautiful cities by building extremely ugly buildings everywhere and letting them decay. Same goes for Turks too.
Well at least the Algerians kept part of Algiers looking decent.
>>38603129
Nice planning.
>>38603068
M8 those houses have style, they look way better than the commieblocks in SK. you can't even compare them.
>and what's your point in bullying SK?
Saying how ugly most of a country looks isn't bullying, sorry to make you emotional over it.
>>38603171
Pot kettle black?
>>38603133
Retard.
Brasilia
Time for dick measuring contest
Canary Wharf, the other financial centre of London.
>>38603293
Disgusting.
>>38603268
>Pot kettle black?
not at all, we have very strict preservation and building laws in the UK.
>>38603373
looks like a poor man's chicago tbh
really you could replace the housing around it with cornfields, tell me that it's Tulsa Oklahoma, and I'd believe you. Hardly impressive for a "financial centre of the world." But that seems to be a reoccurring theme with London.
>>38603254
>M8 those houses have style, they look way better than the commieblocks in SK
This is strawman argument.
I am not saying condos in SK are beautiful, they are not ugly though. Just normal middle class housing.
>>38603464
Chicago doesn't have buildings in it over 1000 years old.
It has glass box skyscrapers and some faux-European designs from when it was still a white city.
Does it even have a financial area? Chicago is only really famous for its pizza - helping keep America fat.
>>38603428
I like it.
>>38603393
Yes, we have preservation laws that mean we build disgusting short buildings as opposed to disgusting tall buildings.
Hurrah.
>>38603498
>This is strawman argument.
It's not though victorian architecture is widely accepted as being nice.
>they are not ugly though.
They are incredibly ugly even by commieblock standards, though I went to poland and after seeing how depressing much of your cities look I would understand why you would think they're not so bad.
>Just normal middle class housing.
Seeing that South Korea is a pretty rich nation I would assume that they are primarily for the lower class like in western Europe?
In any case I prefer the Japanese commieblocks
Saigon, 1955
Saigon is the largest city in Vietnam, a country famous for defeating the USA in a war at what was supposedly a point in history in which the US was a superpower.
>>38603576
Chicago is one of most important city in the world in terms of modern architecture.
>>38603690
bongs of all people should know the definition of "Pyrrhic victory" and "hubris"
>>38603711
And London is one of the most important cities in the world for modern and old architecture.
Supertalls.
Scrapers
Modern
Pre-Modern
Ancient
London has it all.
Bristol, South-West England
Atlanta, Georgia
>>38603823
Is that Dubai?
>>38603617
>tall buildings
When I say previously beautiful cities I'm not talking about gulf arab cities that were just sand decades ago. There is no where comparable in the UK to the damage made in Damascus, Istanbul, Antalya, Egypt etc by socialist parties.
>>38603766
Yet you paved over and continue to destroy all the old stuff in favor of generic glass towers from egomaniacal architects that were too gaudy and tacky even for dubai.
Really, since the 60s, the UK has looked a lot more like eastern europe and post-soviet asia than any of you care to admit.
>>38603688
Japan has better urban development than SK. But SK has much higher population density so it's harder for them.
Bristol
Mexico City
>>38604028
This could be an American city, if it werent for for pretty trees.
>>38603766
>Ancient
Ekhem, term ancient architecture and antiquity generally refers too historical period before Middle Ages but I got what do you mean. I never said London is not important or something like this btw.
>>38603938
>it's harder for them
They're quite similar though in the sense that the terrain of their countries make it so they can't settle most of it anyway. I guess the main difference is that SK was under dictatorships.
Bristol, UK
>>38603916
>Yet you paved over and continue to destroy all the old stuff in favor of generic glass towers from egomaniacal architects that were too gaudy and tacky even for dubai.
Not at all, we didn't need to since the Germans did it for us.
>the UK has looked a lot more like eastern europe and post-soviet asia than any of you care to admit.
Not even close.
>>38604084
10/10
>>38604087
Fool.
>>38604105
SK also was and is still poorer and more inequal than Japan.
Kuala Lampur
Stockholm
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