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ITT we discuss about Palestine and how we can help liberate it from evil zionazistic occupation
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>>28654699
>I totally want another third world muslim country, which will be watered with international money like every third wolrd country because it will inhabited by retard nigger or muslim and will be unable to survive without external help.
Great idea.
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Selfbump
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>>28654912
This. Palestine a shit.

>inb4 JIDF
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>>28654987
>t. jidf
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>>28654912
>>28654987
I wonder who could be behind these posts
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>>28654699
We don't, because we'd be blacklisted if we ever came up with something.
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You have lost all the wars, give up.

Other countries have been nuked for refusing to surrender so stop whoring your dead babies on facebook.
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>yfw Israelis are Cardassians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5fIqJZsQlU
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>>28655133
>Oh noes they have said the truth I don't want to hear about Palestine, they must be from JIDF
Typical PIDF.
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>>28655406
Shouldn't you be packing your bags to Israel?
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>>28655480
And your to Palestine ?
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>>28655480
Shouldn't you pointlessly fire rockets and die with your arabs brothers?
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>>28654912
>I would rather have an occupied area that is literally unable to survive on its own that costs a shitload more money to maintain
That's smart. Also, Israel is the country that gets the most financial aid in the entire world, so you're double smart if you want the situation to keep up.
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>>28655547
>>28655525
>france suddenly supporting the zionazist terrorists
Isn't france a muslim country and supporting zionazists haram?
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>>28655631
Aren't you an African country and shouldn't you be looking for food instead of shitposting about sandniggers?
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We can freedoom them to death.
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>>28654699
Why can no one ever give a good reason why I should give a fuck about these shithead sand niggers?
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>>28655656
le epick african flag banter maymay you sure got me hahah xDDD
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>>28655562
>Israel is the country that gets the most financial aid in the entire world
>My source is www.Antizionistlovepalestine.pidf
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>>28655782
He's confusing US military aid with all the military and humanitarian aid in the entire world apparently.

In other words nigga ain't too bright.
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>>28655753
african comeback 0/10
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>>28655855
lol i got reckt damn :(((
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>>28655782
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_aid_to_Palestinians#cite_note-2
>>28655835
>financial aid
I'm under an impression that you aren't bright enough to develop basic reading comprehension.
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>>28655631
>zionazist terrorists
>People die in a war but because it's jew who kill them it must be terrorist because I hate jew so much than I throw my brain away and support a bunch of kebab who elected a terrorist party and get rekt because they keep going launch their rocket on Israel who have prevented them each attack will be riposted.
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>>28655929
You said Israel, not Palestine.
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>>28656013
see >>28655480
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>>28655929
Your source just proved the French guy's point.
The Palestinians are the most aided people in the world. yet a shithole.
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>>28654699
>former Jewish urheimat (alongside Poland) having pro-Palestine rhetorics
topkek
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>>28656054
Nice argumentation m8. Sorry to have hurt you feeling.
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>>28656036
>>28656097
Please tell me that you're trolling.
>>28656013
>people don't like that fact that Israeli military bombs UN schools and hospitals because it's the jews who are doing it, not because they are bombing UN schools and hospitals
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>>28656102
He's surely a proxy Arab.
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>best JDIF retorts are "ur stupid" and "0/10 Africa".

>>28656013
"It's the oppressed peoples fault they're being oppressed because I heard one of them killed a Israeli dog with a firework one time."

They could be launching cruise missiles and Israelis would still wrong to occupy them.
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The solution is right here
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>>28656141
We don't like when terrorists cynically use UN schools and hospitals as a hiding location.

They're just too cruel to their own people.
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Let's all take a moment to recognise the Muslim countries working hard to mediate between Israel and Palestinian authority figures and provision humanitarian aid, in conjunction with their help towards the Yazidis in Iraq!

Ohwait....
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>>28656151
Nom, te? jestem w szoku, ?e na ?wiecie istniej? kraje które nie cechuj? si? tak kosmiczn? hipokryzj?, ?e s? w stanie rzuca? z kamienn? twarz? identycznymi has?ami co ludzie którzy kilkadziesi?t lat temu ?adowali ich do gazu.
>>28656241
Yeah, I guess the UN are the terrorists as well, that's what bibi said so it must be true!
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>>28656141
And of course it have nothing to do with the fact Hamas launch rocket near those UN school and hospital, because of course, Israel are just evil Jewz with big nose who just like killing innocent people because muh Gazillion.
You are fucking brainwashed m8.
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>>28656141

Well, have you ever seen anyone criticize Hamas for killing their own people with their rockets?
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>>28654699

Actually my lithuanian friend, you dont know the arabs. They are the most disgusting creatures on earth. Back in WW1, arabs betrayed Ottoman. Now those lands are at unrest because arabs can not govern on their own. I support israel in their noble cause.
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>>28656346
Nobody is claiming that 'the UN are terrorists' but it is indisputable that Hamas and other militant groups have used their assets, like clinics and schools, to stockpile weapons and other supplies.
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>>28656187
Nah, we really like the climate here-
Great long summer,
sweet beaches,
and no hurricanes/earthquakes what so ever.

>The only down part are the crappy neighbors.
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>>28656169
Occupy what? A country? Palestine NEVER exited as a country or an entity, I'm not even sure if they are a ethny. Ironicaly It thanks to Israel if Palestine have some land (And I don't use the word country) to manage.
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>>28656141
How would they be trolling? You said Israel gets more aid than anyone else and that's not true.
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>>28656475
These guys get it.

>Did you know Cara is Jewish?
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>>28656374
No, it isn't indisputable, each time they tried doing that the UN reported that to IDF, two weeks ago they reported the building as an UN facility over a dozen times and it still got bombed.
>>28656350
I am brainwashed? I'm not the one defending the people who break the international law by continuing the occupation and justify bombing any location, even the ones ran by UN through "lol terrorists".
>>28656475
>Hever (2005), 13, 16, and (2006), 5, 10 refutes this assessment, arguing that Israel is the biggest recipient of total foreign aid in the world. Turner (2006), 747, underscores that the US provides Israel with annual bilateral funds of US$654 per person, which is more than double what the Palestinians receive in multilateral aid.
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>>28656542
So we're only talking about US aid now? Funny you said the entire worlds aid originally didn't you?
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Facts:

Israel has a right to exist.
Palestine has a right to exist.
A country's right to exist can be challenged during war, as can it's land holdings.
Even if some palestinians don't like it, Palestine is at war with Israel.
Israel is winning.
Israel is not in the wrong to win a war they didn't even start.

The US might be in the wrong to spend it's peoples money on irrelevant foreign conflicts though. Or give any money at all to a nation that has never been that friendly to it.
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>>28656611
Do you understand what the world multilateral means? Do I honestly know your own language better than you?
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>>28656404
I have an idea.
We could find a spot in the ocean with a low water-level (like the mid-Atlantic range), pour a bunch of sand down, and create an island nation for the Jews.

Plenty of beach front, nice climate, no neighbors, closer to the US, and Palestinians would finally shut up.
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I.. uhh..

I'm just gonna mention that out of both sides, I just support whoever bullshits the least.

Israel's idea of propaganda? "Yeah, we're killing them. But they ain't innocent people!"

Palestine's?

"AMAGAWD THIS PICTURE OF JORDANESE CHILDREN SIGNING THEIR NAMES ON TANK SHELLS."

"LET'S ADD THE CAPTION 'ISRAELI CHILDREN WRITE NOTES FOR PALESTINIAN CHILDREN! OH, AND ADD PICTURES OF DEAD KIDS! THAT'LL SHOW EM!"
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This is the reality:

Rightly or wrongly, Israel exists. It's strong as fuck and they're going nowhere. All the invasions by the Arabs into the country have resulted in the aggressors being BTFO. Woe to the vanquished, they've established their beachhead with fire and blood. There's no telling them to pack up their bags and leave what they've taken, the idea should be to negotiate and make friends, like the Egyptians did, not fire shitty little rockets all fucking day and get BTFO day after day while massacring your own countrymen for being 'Israel sympathisers'.
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>>28656542
>No, it isn't indisputable, each time they tried doing that the UN reported that to IDF

What do you mean "tried"? Every they found weapons in their facilities, they made a public announcement and then gave the weapons back to Hamas.

I'm not aware of any instances where the UN reported missile launches near UN facilities to the IDF.
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>>28656542
Ok I'm done. You are just stupid. You are fucking blind.
Gaza is fucking more dense than Taïwan and Hamas know it, they use this fact by launch they rocket or stock their weapon close those UN school or Hospital and of course. Because when Israel will riposte, they will be obviously have some collateral damage. Like this, Hamas win the war of image and get the sympathy of everyone because retard like you who don't try to understand.
Actually Israel air force do a fucking great job, better than the USA one.
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>>28656542
It still got bombed because the terrorists shot right at Israeli soldier from there.
Israel waited a few weeks till they made sure the building is clear of civilians, and only then they bombed all the missiles inside of it.

The Palestinians are the only one breaking any international law:
-Using UN schools as missile shelters.
-Using UN hospitals as terrorist operations room.
-Sending missiles near civilian buildings.
-Hiding missiles under civilian buildings.
-Sending missiles to populated cities in Israel.
-Sending children/disabled people with grenade towards Israeli Army.
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>>28654699
>tfw it was peaceful before Hamas couped in Gaza
>tfw Hamas should be nuked
>tfw nobody does it
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>>28656708
THIS! Israel is existing. It's 2014, they exist since 1949. That's longer than many other countries. Fucking deal with it.
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>>28656825

Palestine was never peaceful. The big difference is that in recent times, the Palestinians stopped (mostly) killing Europeans.
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>>28656695
>>28656708
>>28656713
>>28656752
These guys gets it right,
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>>28656752
If it wasn't so tragic it'd be real funny that those who think they are protecting and standing up for Palestinian citizens are the ones mainly responsible for their deaths and suffering.

Luckily I don't have a facebook account or I'd probably call some of my friends murderers by proxy.
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>>28656891
The Westbank is economically so tied with Israel that they cant start an intifada and Gaza wasnt blockaded before 2006 coup of Hamas
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>>28656825
It was better when Hamas were more occupied with killing their own countrymen. In my opinion this recent development is more about Hamas trying to retain their political dominance in the Palestinian territories by putting themselves out as the 'Israel resisters', given the increasing unpopularity of the group and their leaders who are hiding away in luxury in Qatar.
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>>28656713
>>28656752
>>28656762
Okay, too much JIDF in this thread I'm out.

I guess you all know better about the superb job done by the IDF than the UN workers currently in Gaza, after all 80% of civilian casualties isn't so bad!

But oh right, they were all terrorists or human shields so it's perfectly fine to bomb the third most densely populated region in the world!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p12WhQ8PQkM
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>>28656363

>Arabs are more disgusting than gypsies and k*rds...

I have lost my faith in you comrade.
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>>28656998
>get btfo
>better call them jidf, that'll teach them
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>>28656998
>has no arguments
>FUCKING JIDF
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>>28656998
80% is complete bullshit.

You see what I mean?

Statistics are currently at I think 60% Civilian casualties.

But, no.

Facts don't real. Only feels, I guess.
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>>28656762
>-Sending children/disabled people with grenade towards Israeli Army.

cruel people are cruel.
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>>28656998
How does it feel that your emotions cost other people their life?
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i hate Israel for being secular, i think only jews should live in a jewish state. Hating jews for judaism is stupid
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>>28657083
>Israel
>Secular
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>>28657043
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/10967279/UN-80-per-cent-of-Palestinians-killed-in-Israeli-offensive-are-civilians.html
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Stay classy, Israel.
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>>28657114
And why would I care? The other side would be the total anihilation of the jews and non jews supporting Israel
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>>28657114
Estimates by Russia today put it at approximately 65% - and Russia Today hates Israel.
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>>28654699
>how we can help liberate it
Why liberate it when you can destroy it and everybody in it? Probably more cost effective and you get rid of lots of muslims. Win win situation.
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>>28657153
http://rt.com/news/172900-israel-gaza-civilians-un/
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>>28656973

Well, before the coup, Gaza was occupied by Israel, remember? And before that it was occupied by Egypt.

>>28656998

>the third most densely populated region in the world!
>mfw people still pretend that the Gaza strip is one big city

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Gaza+Strip/@31.4556516,34.37187,33412m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x14fd844104b258a9:0x7e8955cbe285984e
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>>28657114
PAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Read the Article.

One rocket killed 80% civilians.

One. Rocket.

This. This is propaganda. Misleading headline.

And little Polark fell for it. Hilarious!
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>>28657011
What's wrong with Kurds? They're being bro in Iraq/Syria
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>>28657109
>>28657083
The vast majority of Israel are in fact Nonreligious.

>source: i'm an israeli
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>>28657178
No it wasnt you idiot. It was ruled by Fatah
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>>28657109

It's possibly more secular than the US
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>>28656998
>all 80% of civilian casualties isn't so bad!
How many of these "civilians" are muslims? A muslim life is not valuable.
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>>28657223
That's no achievement. I bet even Iran is more secular.
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>kebabs and jews are killing each other on the other side of the planet.
>this is somehow a bad thing and it needs to stop.

i just don't get it
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>>28657178
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_density
>>28657200
I think you should read the entire article before sperging.
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>>28654699
But the British always intended for "Palestine" to be Jewish.
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get rekt mudslimes
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>>28657209
Im gonna party very very hard when someones kills all you fucking kikes.
pieces of shit, fucking sincere jews and muslims alike
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No Israelis have been killed so far by Hamas' rocket attacks, although nearly 1,000 have been launched in the past week, according to the Israeli military.

"In the past week" I like how this part is hidden nicely.
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>>28657217

Fatah (as PNA) never really ruled anything.

>>28657256

>Iran is more secular.

Nah.

>>28657269

Moron, LOOK AT THE MAP LOOK AT IT. See the fields? See the desert? There's even a whole bunch of abandoned buildings they could fight from.
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>>28654699
>supporting muslims
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzHcvuU_Co0
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>>28657393
I love how dumb faggots think Iron Dome puts an obligation on Israel to do nothing. It's only a matter of time until Hamas start employing suicide bombers and other methods not interceptable by ID, but these cunts just don't get it.
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>>28657417
Irans President is celebrating Jewish and Christian stuff on Twitter. Texas had the merry christmas bill
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>>28657447
It's a lie, too.

Israelis have been killed - just not by the rocket attacks on Jerusalem.
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Are kikes even human?
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>>28657249

The real question is how many of them are Hamas. The "UN estimates" actually come from the Palestinians and they're notoriously unreliable.

http://time.com/3035937/gaza-israel-hamas-palestinian-casualties/
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>>28657466
I remember wanting to be a journalist so badly. I'll probably still do it in my spare time but fuck the mainstream papers, they pedal such a big fucking sack of horse shit.
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> hating christians

why
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>>28657393
If a baby comes at me with a knife, I'm going to kick it.

Doesn't matter if it's pretty obvious that it wouldn't be able to harm me.
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>>28657348
This girl is quite loud but eventually thanks to her
gay marriage is now allowed in Israel.

>And she won the Eurovision '98.
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>>28657417
Moron, LOOK AT THE LINK LOOK AT IT. See the population density by political boundaries? See the third spot in the population above 1 million bracket?
>>28657447
So completely disregarding the fact that they have checkpoints that prevent suicide bombers from getting into Israel the solution is to instigate the conflict even more?
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keep hating
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>>28657532
>her
>she
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>>28657567
>they have checkpoints that prevent suicide bombers from getting into Israel

Yeah Polan, checkpoints will always stop a suicide bomber from entering Israel. Oh and fuck the people manning the checkpoint and other bystanders, who gives a fuck about them?
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>>28657453

The President of Iran is less powerful than a Muslim cleric.
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>>28657567
They put up the Wall because that wasn't working.

Then the Iron Dome cause they just launched rockets over the wall.
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/09/cop-to-see-tot-he-saved-in-94-be-a-bride/13817797/

There is sometimes a ray of light in this world of injustice.

Peace for Palestine.
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>>28657581
Nah bro, you should read this thread.

Lots of support towards Israel.
And lots of funny hurr durring from Palestinians.
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>>28657447
Acutally I way more jaded about the fact than nobody react when Israel must develope with USA a Iron dome technology, very complicated and expensive, so much they are harassed by terrorist.
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>>28657680
This cheese eating surrender monkey's right.
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>>28657611
Considering that there hasn't been a suicide bomber attack in years they did a fine job so far.

Still,

>I don't want suicide bombers in Israel
>I will piss of the palis even more to make sure they start sending suicide bombers

10/10 logic
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>>28654912
>>28654912
Typical French. Nazi inverted.

Like if Israel wasn't watered with , say, 5 ( FIVE ) BILLIONS of Dollars from the US , a year.
PLUS the money that Jews from all around the world pay for it.
Like if Zionists settlers were not integrists retards.
Like if France wasn't the country where The Rights of Man have been edicted.
Like if the post 2nd war France was always of colonization.

Israel is The New Nazi Nation.

Israel a shit.
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>>28657567

> See the population density by political boundaries?

Did you even look at the map? Do you want me to post it here, for your convenience? Or do you want me to post pictures of all those empty places they could fight from?
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>>28657634
You think thats bad? Politicians are just people; WHY should they rule over others/imprison them/tax them?
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>>28657739
Israel getting funding is reason for Hamas to firing rockets at them? Whatever...
Most Israelis don't like what the settlers are doing.
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>>28657748
>You think thats bad?

Would you want a Muslim cleric telling you what to do?
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>>28657739
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsOH2Y_CZE0
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>>28657805
I think everyone in the thread can agree that the Settlers are cunts.

Whether this means that the calmer regular Israelis therefor have to play RocketDodge for the rest of their lives, though, remains up for discussion.
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>>28657849
You are on /pol/ light with flags,
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USA needs to grow balls and revolt agains their masters. Without US support, Israel will quickly wither and die.
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>>28657747
Oh yes, silly me, it's the Palestinians' fault for fighting back against people who occupy the land their ancestors lived on for generations, and not fighting from the middle of the desert where they can be clearly seen!

You're right man, it's their own fault for the civilians getting bombed!
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>>28657880
THen all the Israelis would be genocided and everybody was like
>We couldnt forsee that
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you know, if PLO had united with Hamas and formed a coalition government none of this would have happened

oh wait
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>>28657830
Im not muslim, so he has no authority over me.
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>>28657893
Generations, you say?

Well, maybe you should ask Jordan.

They pulled the ultimate magic trick.

They took 800,000 refugees..

AND TURNED THEM INTO 5,000,000!

Five million refugees, most of whom were born into refugee-hood, given a free pass by the UN.. why?
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>>28657930
>US politicians says something
FUCKING [Enter Party]
>Israeli politician says something
FUCKING JEWS/KIKES/ISRAELIS
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>>28656187
The whole point of the conflict is having that specific piece of land
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>>28657915
And that's a bad thing how?
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>>28657991
Nah, we can take the Canadian's advice.

All in favour of every Canadian being a coke snorting fat man say aye.
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>>28657991
top kek i know right dumb mudslimes and leftists dont know when genocide is permissible
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My ruse thread worked as planed hehehe
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>>28657893

>and not fighting from the middle of the desert where they can be clearly seen!

Are you suggesting that shooting rockets from the desert would not make much military sense?

Could you please explain how much military sense does it make to blindly fire rockets that kill more people in Gaza than they kill in Israel?
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>>28657970
>why
I don't know, maybe because the place they originated from is occupied by an apparent first world country that gets a free pass from the UN for everything because USA vetoes anything directed against it?
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>>28657970
A million or so turned into muh six gorillion ring a bell? Sandniggers do that stuff all the time.
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>>28658043
>Holocaust only exists when it servers my point
t. /pol/ack
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>>28658058
No, that doesn't make any sense.

Why would the Palestinians, who are not in Israel, and are in fact, Jordan, barred from ever not being refugees?
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>>28658051
everyone on int knows youre a jew
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>>28657968

Are you serious? If you live in a Muslim controlled area, of course they have authority over you.
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>>28657893
Protip: "Palestine" was re-created by the British for the sole purpose of giving it to the Jews.

"Palestine" never existed as a country.

See pic, "Palestine" under the Ottomans.
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>>28656457
>>28656529chan, /int/ : TEH Place to be for ZIonists and Inverted Nazis.
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>>28658126
>>28657739
Calm down Mohamed. Go pray Allah away.
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>>28658086
you say that like its a bad thing
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>>28658056
No, shooting rockets from a place where somebody equipped with the most advanced military technology in the world can clearly see you doesn't make much sense.

Probably because their only concern isn't just killing the Israelis.

>>28658114
Protip:

>"Palestine" was re-created by the British for the sole purpose of giving it to the Jews.
[citation needed]

Protip:
>"Palestine" never existed as a country.
I never said it did, that doesn't change the fact that these people are indigenous to that land.
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>>28658291
>Probably because their only concern isn't just killing the Israelis.

Are you suggesting that Hamas is trying to kill the people of Gaza while pretending to fight Israel?
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>>28658107
Not really.
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>>28658291
>[citation needed]
Was there a palestinian state until 1949?
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>>28656187
You don't seem to be aware of >MUH CLAAAAAAAY
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>>28658126
>pro paslestinian threadget BTFO and derailed by logic and truth
>/int/ is now full zionist and "Inverted nazis."
Don't worry, you will have your 10 others thread where Israel will get trashed by a horde of stupid teenagers, angry muslim and retarded leftard.
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>>28657532
Gay marriage is allowed in Israel but marriage between a jew and non-jew is not?
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>>28658291
>[citation needed]
"Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have also agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2nd, 1917, by the Government of His Britannic Majesty, and adopted by the said Powers, in favor of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people"

From the text of the Palestinian mandate requested by the British ("the Mandatory").

>I never said it did, that doesn't change the fact that these people are indigenous to that land.
And if they had agreed to the 1937 or 1947 partition plans, they would not have gone anywhere, see:

"it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine"

From the same text of the Palestinian mandate.

They would simply have become Muslim citizens of a Jewish state.
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>>28657805
>Israel getting funding is reason for Hamas to firing rockets at them?

France, Rights, 1789, Art. 2 "La résistance à l'oppression"
To resist against oppression is a constitutionnal right in France.
I'm not religious at all. Bible , coran, and whatever, belongs to water closets, oe else, Historical raws of libraries, BUT : Hamas ARE NOT terrorists.
They have a total right to resist.
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>>28657532
>>28658438

IIRC they don't allow gay marriage yet, but they recognize gay marriages abroad.

And of course a Jew can marry a non-Jew. I've heard they discourage marrying Arabs though.
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>>28658526
Sure they have, as long as they don't commit Jihad or fire rockets at their enemies.
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>>28658291
>"Palestine" was re-created by the British for the sole purpose of giving it to the Jews.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_S%C3%A8vres#British_Mandate_for_Palestine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sykes-Picot#British.E2.80.93Zionist_discussions_during_the_negotiations

>I never said it did, that doesn't change the fact that these people are indigenous to that land.
So the US should be handed over back to the native americans, right?
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>>28658526
>wanting to erridicate all jews is somehow an act of resistance
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>>28658526
* historical rows
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>>28656404
you can have like half of western Australia if you want.
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>>28658526
>They have a total right to resist.

You know that every terrorist organization says that, right. Also this >>28658594
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>>28658526
>Hamas ARE NOT terrorists

From the founding charter of Hamas:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it"

"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him."

Also, Hamas is an official branch of the Muslim Brotherhood:
"The Islamic Resistance Movement is one of the wings of Moslem Brotherhood"
(also from the founding charter of Hamas).

Would you like to know the official slogan of the Muslim Brotherhood?
Here it is:

"(...) jihad is our way; death for the sake of Allah is our wish"

Hamas is a fundamentalist Islamic organization, and by all non-Muslim definitions they are "terrorists".
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>>28658526
Hello Mohammed.
When are you leaving ?
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Why are there so many muslims on 4chan? Isn't this site haram?
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>>28658526
>Hamas ARE NOT terrorists.
And the retard award goes to...
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>>28655747
again another ameritard who gives a fuck about where his tax money is going
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>>28658779

Post anime gir... no wait that's a bad idea.
POST PORK QUICK.
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>>28658594
proof ?
>>28658561
You're not able to understand what to resist mean, it seems.
Let's see ...
You're on your home, comfortably talking of the weather ....
Suppose now, that Benyamin come to your house and say : " this house is mine, God gave it to me ."
(I am quoting Netanyahu. he said so. )
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>>28658779
>Trying to find any logic in muslim behavior
Good luck.
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>>28655747
Because it gives you cheaper oil.

Think about it.

Israel = your means of power in the Middle East.

Surely you'd want to keep it around incase the sandies try to give you a bad deal.
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>>28658758
Nazi inverted.
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>>28658887
Let's rephrase that a little more.

You steal a home from the Transjordans.

They stole it from the Ottomans.

You then think "Well, I must be safe, because Transjordan is now just Jordan."

You're wrong! An even tougher enemy approaches.

"OH NOES MAI HOUSE!!!111" cried the Palestinian, forgetting his house used to be from Transjordan.

"Deez Zionists be evil."

And the Frenchy eats it up.
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>>28658526
>Hamas ARE NOT terrorists.
>Using caps in a political discussion
The definition of terrorist is fuzzy, but a fair one many people would agree with is an NGO member which attacks civilians for political gain.
Given Hamas' history of attacking civilians, there doesn't seem to be much to say.

>To resist against oppression is a constitutionnal right in France.
Were Hamas interested only in the West Bank and Gaza, I would say that, from the standpoint of French Law (which I don't know shit about), maybe you have a point.
But Hamas is quite clear that A) they seek all of Israel as well, territory not considered occupied under international law, and B) they have no problem committing genocide to get it. Their charter is quite clear on the matter.
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>>28658887
>proof ?
See >>28658679
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>>28658887
>proof ?
http://www.thejerusalemfund.org/www.thejerusalemfund.org/carryover/documents/charter.html?chocaid=397
Ctrl+F "Jews"
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>>28658820
>the US gdp: 16,244,600,000,000
>US aid to israel: 3,115,000,000
It's not so much now is it?

>>28658887
Sure they can resist, and they have. They are on the point now that they're sacrificing their own civilians just to smear in the face of the western world. Hamas are de facto terrorists, by our definition of it.
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>>28658944
>Abdul makes up his own pseudo-insults
That's cute.
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>>28658779
probably it's okay when it is part of their holy war
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>>28658887
Nobody would have been forced to give up their home under the 1947 UN partition plan.
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>>28658887
>You're not able to understand what to resist mean, it seems.
>Let's see ...
>You're on your home, comfortably talking of the weather ....
>Suppose now, that Benyamin come to your house and say : " this house is mine, God gave it to me ."
>(I am quoting Netanyahu. he said so. )
>Won't use diplomatic ways of solving conflict
>only knowing rage and hate
That's what they get
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>>28659068
So you say to Benyamin : " no Bibi, this house is mine."
Bibi : "what ? you resist ? God gave it to me ! you're a terrorist !"
And Bibi shoot at you , saying : " Die ! Terrorist ! "

I live in a country that have been invaded by Nazis, in the past.
I know who they are.
They live in Israel today.
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>>28659249
Ali, just leave yrop please.
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>>28659068
i think they used little bit money in iraq and afgan wars but who gives a fuck
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>>28659249
>Comparing the occupation of France by the nazis with Israel
This is a whole new level of stupidity.
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>>28659249
Again, no Muslim would have been forced out of their homes under the 1947 partition plan.
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>>28659249
Join the queue, you french fucker.

Nazis and Soviets.

Get your fuckin retarded "Hurr I HAZ EXPERIENCE!" shit out of here.
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>>28659390
Indeed, the Germans at least treated the people they occupied with some dignity. Unlike Israel.
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>>28659249
What would you do if you were Palestine? That's right you'd surrender. In 1947. And you'd live a prosperous life in 2014 with friendly relations to Israel.
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>>28658679
May be. debatable.

I've heard that even the US headquarters are aware, those days, that it's Israel policies that are an obstacle to peace, and not Hamas.

So you can keep telling your stories about hamas beeing extremists , hiding the fact that Palestinians of Gaza are living the Warsaw ghetto's life FOR NO REASON AT ALL ......

TO RESIST AGAINST OPPRESSION IS A RIGHT.
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>>28659249
>I know who they are.
>They live in Israel today.
I'm supportive of Palestine. I hope for a state for both parties, with all issues between them negotiated away.
And it is because I am supportive of Palestine that I tell you to not engage in hyperbole. When you overextend in criticism of something, like calling the USA, or Israel, or whatever "nazis", it really weakens your case. It makes you look like a nutjob, and nobody wants to listen to you as a result.
There is alot of tension in the Isr-Pal conflict. Don't buy into the extremist narratives that live there. It doesn't help you, and it doesn't help whichever side you want to support.
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>>28659368
The average US citizen pays 9.8 dollar ANNUALLY in foreign aid to Israel, I think I can list like 50 worse things they spend the money on.

>>28659249
>I live in a country that have been invaded by Nazis, in the past.
>I know who they are.
I live in a country invaded by commies in the past, I know who they are.
See my point?
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>>28659526
(In Jordan)

(They live in ghettos according to the UN's refugee committee, which has a separate part for the Palestinians)
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>>28659489
I missed the part where the US and Russia conquer Israel and force them to atone for their crimes?
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>>28659526
>May be. debatable.
First hand sources wont convince you. So you dont want to learn and understand
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>>28659526
>debatable
Hamas is a terrorist organization, this is not up for debate.

>Palestinians of Gaza are living the Warsaw ghetto's life FOR NO REASON AT ALL
How about the fact that Hamas is the ruling democratic party in Gaza?

Why the fuck would Israel open up its borders to a neighbor who overtly wishes to eradicate Israel?

Also, you do realize that Egypt also keeps its border with Gaza closed right?
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>>28659532
>The average US citizen pays 9.8 dollar ANNUALLY
It's more complex than that, since of the 3b that we give to them, some 75% of it is earmarked for US defense expenditure. The money goes right back into the US economy.
The money which ultimately stays overseas is well under 1b.
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>>28659532
GTFO shlomo. You are a traitor to our country.
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>>28659526
>May be. debatable.
>The charter of the movement is not a trustworthy source on the nature of the movement
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>>28654699
There is no Palestine. Non existent country cannot be occupied.
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>>28659618
>Ã¥landers being island jews
I though this was common knowledge on the mainland?
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>>28654699
>how we can help liberate it from evil zionazistic occupation
Thats easy. Initiate protocol A2A in Israel.
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>>28659655
Czechia never fails to JIDF. How much are you getting paid to shill, or do you do it for free?
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>>28659731
>>28659618
>>28659566
>those non-arguments

Go away, Muslim immigrant.
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>>28659731
no

and you?
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>>28659731
>Someone disagrees with me
>THEY MUST BE BEING PAID TO DO SO
You must be lovely in person.
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>>28659677
It still boffles me that you choose to be more loyal to a country that kills your own countrymen and laughs about it than your own. Or do you hate mainlanders that much?
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>>28654699
You reach nordic levels in beeing a traitor towards western civilization.
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>>28659655
>t. from a country that recognizes palestine
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>>28659756
>he doesnt suck israeli cock
>he must be muslism

Get out of our Europe back to your promised land.
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>>28659530
Yup.
I insist : yep.
but :
we're on 4 chan, that means :
/int/ : "Hoorray for the Jews !" or whatever.
/pol/ : "Hooorray for the Nazis ! Kill the Jews !" are whatever.
Like if we were living 80 years ago.

80 years have passed.
Jews are not oppressed.
Zionists are oppressing.
And have their part of setting the world on fire.
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>>28659800
Jukka, are you already halfway down the jallo bottle?
In a conflict between Finland and Israel I'd of course side with Finland. Whatever that have to do with this.
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>>28659862
Either you're a Muslim immigrant, or you're a leftist cryhard.

Either way, you're a blight on European history and culture.
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>>28659913
>leftists just support palestine
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>>28659731
>JIDF
>shill
This is as /pol/ack as it gets.
Either you debate the correct way or you just don't, because shouting /pol/ terms in capitals makes you look so bad.
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>>28659818
u wot m8
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>>28659943
Pretty much, yes.
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>>28659989
Pretty much no
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>>28659906
Israel killed a Finnish UN soldier deliberately. How are they not a hostile force?

>>28659913
None of those. You are a wart on the ass of European civilization.
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Only way this conflict will end is when a) all the palestinians have been killed or b) when the current Zionist are thrown from the power in Israel, which is incredibly unlikely to happen.

There will be no international intervention, for people, atleast in western countries, don't honestly give a fuck about civilian casualties.
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Why not establish homeland for Palestinian peoples in Lithuania?
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>>28658559
You just have to find a Rabi, Priest , mullah to declare you as married.
I imagine it to be fairly hard in a country full of extremists and haters
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>>28660006
Our right-wing parties have remained objective during the past Gaza conflict, while ALL left-wing parties are crying out for sanctions against Israel.

Same with the known right-wingers and left-wingers i personally know.

Of course there are going to be exceptions, but as a rule leftists support Palestine, while rightists either remain objective or support Israel.
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>>28660010
>UN soldier
Yeah, this isn't an aggression towards Finland dude. And what makes you seem like a muslim is not that you support palestine, do it if you feel they're right, it's your way of "arguing" just spouting JIDF SHILL at everyone not agreeing with you.
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>>28660010
>None of those.
If you say so.
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>>28660091
I am an exception!

There's a sickening bias and propaganda campaign against Israel.

Other than that, left wing.
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>>28660091
>objective
Your bias is showing. I'm an objective rightist and I support sanctions on israel.
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>>28654699
Ok, really...
When jews grew out of being a pathetic dwellers to such pain in the ass?
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>>28660167
Ew. That's just gross dude.
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>>28659591
>Also, you do realize that Egypt also keeps its border with Gaza closed right?
What is, exactly, the amount on dollars a year, that the US are pourring upon Egypt ?
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>>28659566
I miss the part where Russia Anschlusses Finnland, and still I have stick to reality.

Israel is nor Germany. Germany lost! Israel won all it's wars.
So in this respect all the so called "crimes" of Israel are to be treated as the crimes of Russia in WWII.
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>>28654699
Free Palestine?!?!
I'll take three.
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>>28659960
"In current situation, Czech republic tolerates the status quo of the Palestinian embassy in Prague even though it de facto does not recognize the existence of Palestine."

>tfw a year ago or so there was an explosion inside the embassy
>tfw they found weapons and bombs hidden inside the embassy

fucking terrorists man
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>>28660120
I don't support palestine. I actually wish someone would nuke both of them so we would be free of that cancer.

But apparently not worshipping israel means you are automatically a muslim palestinian supporter.
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>>28660238
see this:
>>28657659
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>>28660167
Objective as in "impartial".

>I'm an objective rightist
How do you feel about immigration?

>>28660199
It does not matter why Egypt is keeping its border closed with Gaza.

What matters is they are, despite being fellow Muslims.
What matters is that no-one ever brings this up when crying about Gaza.

Just like no-one ever brings up the fact that Egypt and Jordan controlled Gaza and West Bank for 20 years, without ever considering the creation of "Palestine".
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>>28660259
If you want to be taken seriously, act serious. Don't go calling everyone JIDF.

> I actually wish someone would nuke both of them so we would be free of that cancer.
That would just make more of them come here. Instead try to stabilize the zone.
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I too hope that Palestinians will take control of Jordan, their homeland, where by all accounts they make the vast majority of the population
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>>28660259
"accepting the facts" =/= "worshiping Israel"

You have been countering facts with non-arguments like "JIDF shill!"
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>>28660238
I think he means the disputed territories west of the river jordan.
And honestly. these territories are only a matter of two states Israel and Jordania formerly known as Transjordania. No other country has to bother or whine.
Gaza is only a matter of Egypt ans Israel.
The Gholan heights from where syria bombed the whole israel are also only a matter to discuss between syria and Israel.

These countries fault is to have lost war over war in the first place.

It's super stupid to have finns or Turks engaged in this conflict.
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Can we nuke them instead?
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>>28659576
i was meaning that the text you're showing are written under attack.

The policy of the US and Israel have been, along years, to eliminate tolerant people amongst Palestinians, in order to be able to say : "look how extremists they are !"
that said : to resist against oppression is a right.
not terrorism.
and that's not debatable.
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Muslims fought the Israelis multiple times, and lost every time.

I wonder how much longer they are going to waste their people's lives and energy at accomplishing the impossible (i.e. "driving the Jews into the sea").

(Answer: forever, because Arab culture is inherently (self-)destructive.)
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>>28657739
Last time we invaded you because you were on the jews side next time we do it because you are on the muslim side....well you actually are muslim... I guess most real french will be thankfull for an invasion it all the muslims go into the trains.
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>>28659731
die die die die Finland..
die die die die Finland..
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>>28657849
>Whether this means that the calmer regular Israelis therefor have to play RocketDodge for the rest of their lives, though, remains up for discussion.
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>>28658559
>And of course a Jew can marry a non-Jew

This much is actually not true. Israel does not have secular marriage and therefore interfaith marriages of any kind must be performed outside the country. Israel recognizes marriages of any kind performed abroad, including interfaith, secular, and same-sex.
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>>28660655
There is resisting oppression and then there is suicide bombing the civilians. There's a fine line between resistance and straight up terrorism.
Fuck's sake, they don't even mind Arab civilian casualties, as long as they have the slightest chance of killing a jew.
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>>28660771
More like..

Lots of little ones from Palestine, very few big ones from Israel.
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>>28660683
you can't speak about an actual culture , when you say Arabs....they have nothing but Jihad, moscs and beating their wifes.
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I think Palestine will be free in the after life.
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>>28660683
>(Answer: forever, because Arab culture is inherently (self-)destructive.)
this kind of way of thinking is exactly what the Nazis were doing, against Jews, 80 years ago, saying that Jews must be removed from the earth.
Why don't you use against Israel and Jews ?
Why are you using it against Palestinians, and not against Jews ?
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>>28660864
"Muslims are self-destructive" =/= "we must destroy all Muslims"

Keep them strawmen coming Younes.
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>>28660864
No we took the jews passiveness and peacefullness as vindication. As a real human is a warrior!
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I think Gandhi has proven that the most effective form of resistance is the non-violent variety. Armed conflict only proves to Israel that it must continue the current state of affairs. Rather, if the Palestinians resisted in a non-violent fashion, they would eventually force Israel to see that independence is the only way forward.
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>>28660965
Hindus actually love live!
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Jews voted in favor of a Muslim state on Israeli/Palestinian land in 1947.
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I'm really disappoint ???????
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