Iraqi PM Nouri Maliki: Russian jets will turn tide
>"I'll be frank and say that we were deluded when we signed the contract [with the US]," Mr Maliki said.
>He said Iraq was acquiring second-hand jet fighters from Russia and Belarus "that should arrive in Iraq in two or three days".
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28042302
>We are greatly alarmed by what is happening in Iraq. We warned long ago that the affair that the Americans and the Britons stirred up there wouldn't end well," Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Wednesday,
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/06/12/russia-on-iraq-we-told-you-so/
>>26305611
This is merely a sign of how shit his regime has gotten, Airforces are conventionally the easiest branch of the military to control due to their relatively small numbers and class of personnel, with him falling bag on muh airplanes just shows that ISIS has him by the throat.
>>26305644
>ISIS has him by the throat.
How?
holy fuck i love russia
p obvious they want iraq under russian influence though like syria, but it's the price to pay to have stability
>>26305677
They have popular support to the point he can't even trust his own army.
>>26305644
You do realize 60% of the country is still Shia arab right?
And the army that pussied out and fled were nearly all Shia Arabs
>>26305741
Why would he send troops to Iraq in the first place? He was one of the first to denounce the initial invasion of Iraq in 2003.
>>26305728
This means game over for America's dream of getting rid of Assad. Once Russia starts bombing, they won't stop until all anti-Assad forces are destroyed. Just like NATO did in Libya.
GAME OVER!
Ooh we will liberate Iraq and take their qts
>>26305785
>Once Russia starts bombing, they won't stop until all anti-Assad forces are destroyed.
Please let this happen
>>26305785
Assad is better than the extremist Muslim filth that wants to remove him
>>26305611
He looks exactly like my grandfather did at that age
>>26305781
I'm talking about Al-Maliki not Putin.
>>26305827
SHOCK SHOCK CLICK HERE
DO YOU NOW THAT PUTIN'S GRANDSON LIVES IN AUSTRALIA
MAIN SECRET OF RUSSIAN TSAR
>>26305785
That pipe dream ended a long time ago, the Lion has defeated the terrorists and imperialists.
BASED ASSAD
>>26305785
From your mouth to high heaven.
Also yeah, the US is a terrible business partner when it comes to these things. Delays, delays, delays. One month, two months, three months, who knows? Russia's like clockwork and reliable. Good for the Iraqi government, hope they put them to good use and payback the SAA for its airsupport for the time being.
>>26305974
Sabah al-heyr
>>26305827
Fuck I wish I was at my parents so I could post a pic :(
>>26306005
But the delays are for freedom and democracy!
It's for PROGRESS
>>26305925
Assad is a god, russia though
israel will be destroyed, inshallah
>>26306008
Ahlan Russiyya!
>>26306059
Of course brah, I didn't suspect anything else.
>>26306114
Keyfa haluka, ahi?
>>26306092
This shit is some kek
I wouldn't be surprised if US personnel anti-aircraft missiles somehow mysteriously fall into the the hands of ISIS before air cover arrive from Russia.
>>26306383
?? ????.
?????? ??? ??? ?????? ?????? ? ????????? 500 ????????? ??????, ????? ????????? ?????????.
>>26306192
bi alf kher katter kheralla, w2enta? lesh bl nahawi bas, 'amb tet'allam 'arabi? :3
>Iraq kicks out American troops
>wonders why there country is falling apart
>>26306414
??? ???? ???????????????? ??????? ?? ???????, ??? ??? ???????.
I really don't give 2 shits about Iraq or Afghanistan. We tried to give them our unique brand of freedom, but they just throw it away as soon as someone tries to take it away.
Ungrateful savages, the lot of em. They are happy to hide behind foreign troops but throw down their weapons as soon as they have to fight for themselves.
>>26306092
kek inbred provincials
>Russians in charge of not being butthurt
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-28049565
>>26306471
Our freedoms shit.
That's why
>>26305611
Meanwhile: White House requests $500 million to aid Syrian rebels
http://rt.com/usa/168720-obama-syrian-rebel-fund/
Not that hard to do the math where it's going.
>>26306540
*sigh*
I need to move to a different country.
>>26306490
>british site
>photo in article
>"Britain get the fuck out of here"
>>26306588
You are welcome bro
>>26306092
why rapist?
>>26306608
Forgot to say Thanks, so Thank You
>>26306588
Russia will probably accept you.
>>26306414
??? ???????. ? ??? ?? ???????: ???? ?? ?? ?????????????? ??????? ????? ?????? ??????????? ??????????? ????, ? ?? ??? ????? ?? ????? ?????????.
>>26306725
??? ???? ????? ????? ?? ???????????? ????????? ???? ?????? ??????, ?????? ??? ????? ????? ????????, ??????? ??? ???????.
???? ??????? ? ?????? ????? ??? ????????, ? ?? ?? ?????????? ? ?????? ????, ???? ???
>>26305611
My dream is slowly getting true.
i dream of a federate europe lead by (merkel?) somehow friend/allied with putin's russia, while us governmen do the international attentionwhore
>>26306755
>??????? ? ?????? ????? ??? ????????
????? ????? ??? ? ?? ??????, ??? ????? ????? ?????? ???? ?????.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa2aHWLUZlE
>>26306658
Nah, I'm too stupid to learn Russian.
Texas isn't really the US anyway, so I'm fine here.
>>26306795
??? ???? ? ????, ??? ??????? ?? ?????? 100% ???????????? ???????? ??????????.
? ??? ???? ???, ?????? ????????? ?? ????????.
>>26306822
Russian is easy
>>26306981
No, it's not.
>>26306981
No it's not. The pronunciation is impossible without being in Russia or other such place. Even if you study for years you'll sound like a retard no matter how hard you try to spell things properly. At least that's what other Russians say. How true is it?
>>26306981
Nyet.
>>26307058
Plus learning foreign languages is just not the western way.
Why acquire a new language when I can acquire a Russian mail order bride?
>>26306588
That's why you faggots will lose. Because you are faggots.
>>26306471
You type of freedom only works on isolated continent with great economy and without aggressive neighbors.
>>26307007
?? ??????
>>26307058
My friend from Syria lives in Moscow several years and speaks as well as we do. My friend from Saudi lived here for three months and speaks pretty nice.
>>26307107
Da.
>>26305611
Oh.
Cool.
Someone will fight our war for us.
Well. As long as russians and muslims are killing eachother I see no problem with russia getting in iraq.
>>26305974
its heavens door. from your mouth to heavens door.
>>26306471
>implying there is a thing called Iraqi nation
>>26307556
I know, I like how this sounds better though Gordan.
>>26307189
Exactly, you gotta live there or in some Russian speaking area to excel, otherwise it's no use they say.
>>26307671
wow quit appropriating culture
>>26307448
Someone will get that oil for you and stop selling it in $US.
I'm cool with that.
>>26307713
>implying you are not an extension of the US
I wish America would go back in.
I want to watch more americans die.
>>26305611
So they have planes BUT NO FUCKING PILOTS TO FLY THEM
great thread
>>26307836
Well, they were training a dozen or so pilots in the US for the f-35's for quite some time now so they can certainly fill the gap. Also, I'm sure Iran can spare a couple. Besides, who even said they don't really have pilots?
>>26307870
>pilots in the US for the f-35's
lol no, we are training them for F-16s. We would never sell F-35s to Iraq. Iraq did fly migs back in the day but all those pilots are retired by now and they'll have to train new ones.
>>26305611
russia is th natural ally to the middle east, they are close culturally and loved in here
america sells it's allie...yet again
>>26307870
Iran's air force is a joke and Iraq doesn't have pilots, they haven't had a functioning air force since 2003.
>>26305611
How is this a good thing?
>whole thing started because Maliki insisted on removing Sunni
>now he has the toys to stir up even more shit
How many people in Iraw are able to pilot modern Russian jets anyway?
I mean it's not like you can train for this with Ace Combat
>>26306005
>the US is a terrible business partner when it comes to these things. Delays, delays, delays.
We delayed delivery because we didn't trust him, obviously with good reason.
>>26305611
Good, anything to hurtbutt the Amerifaggot government is fine by me.
>>26306005
>Russia's like clockwork and reliable.
lel, no they aren't
India didn't buy mig-35s because russia can't even service their fleet of 29s, russia cannot into product support.
>>26305611
BASED PEWTEEN SEV WORLD AGAIN :DDDDDDDDDDDDD
>I thought he's gonna send troops.
>Apparently just Jets
TOP KEK. RUSSIA: FOREVER POSTURING.
>>26307924
Hope our government will sell jets with pilots.
>words on your pic
Al-Quds = Jerusalem
Ar-Rijal - men
Translate third please.
>>26307958
I hope we sell them this
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakovlev_Yak-130
Both jet trainer and fighter
>>26307898
Well:
http://www.usmilitary.com/8375/us-air-force-train-iraqi-pilots-in-night-ops/
http://voiceofrussia.com/uk/news/2014_06_25/300-US-Special-Forces-arrive-in-Iraq-to-train-Iraqi-pilots-for-air-strikes-2103/
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-14/obama-positions-aircraft-carrier-as-iraqis-await-strikes.html
Idk, seems like they can operate helicopters at least. And what's the deal with not having a lot of pilots? A dozen or working half the day would suffice imo.
>>26307924
What's your take on the matter? Do you really have no pilots or is it some sort of misunderstanding by Western media?
>>26308008
Also didn't buy mig-35 because Indian officers are dumbs.
My relative works in Rosoboronexport (organisation which export our weapon) so I know a lot of stories about their stupidity.
>>26308016
>no troops in Ukraine
>RUSSIA WHY YOU ARE SENDING TROOPS IN UKRAINE
>no troops in Iraq
>RUSSIA SEND TROOPS FASTER
Fuck FUCK FUCK WHERE IS YOUR LOGIC?
>>26308077
Real problem to me seems to be the lack of ordinance. Now that they've stopped waiting for US deliveries and opted for fast Russian delivery, things might change.
I didn't say they have no pilots, I said they have no pilots certified to fly the planes they just got from Russia. Pilots have to be certified to fly a particular aircraft you know.
>>26308031
tantadher= is waiting for
i post it in sarcastic way as these "men" can't do shit
>>26308077
>What's your take on the matter? Do you really have no pilots or is it some sort of misunderstanding by Western media?
we have 10s of pilots training in usa for years
and many more locals who flew migs in the past in should do perfectly
>>26305611
>We are greatly alarmed by what is happening in Iraq. We warned long ago that the affair that the Americans and the Britons stirred up there wouldn't end well," Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Wednesday,
Based Russians try to warn us.
And we don't listen.
Then Iraq has to go to Russia to help them out with some aircraft. Maliki should just ask Russia to help them out with troops and military trainers and advisers too, obviously the American "help" is worth shit.
>>26308008
Dude, the US has been stalling for months now even though billions of dollars are involved. Delay from the Russian side is pretty infrequent. Iraq got its bunch of Russian helicopters on time last November.
>>26308100
Mind sharing some? Sounds interesting.
>>26308141
we have pilots who flew the same fucking air crafts before 2003
>Tripple Entente of Iran Syria and Russia Supports Iraq in its fight against Terrorism
>Obama is talking about supporting Syrian Rebels, still
someone get this idiot out of office
Russia should take over Americas role as the global superpower.
>>26308142
Thank you.
Yeah, I understood.
>>26308142
>>26308146
I am really waiting for our guys helping Iraq.
I can't even imagine Saudian butthurt hehehe
>>26308142
Ah good, that's a relief. Thanks for the info bro. Hang in there.
>>26308146
>sunni rebels
>>26308153
Iraq is a special case, our government doesn't trust Maliki because he's a cunt and hence the delays.
>>26308173
and now they're old as fuck
>>26305785
I hope and pray that you are correct comrade, but I know the traitors in Washington want to put in drone strikes and air attacks to "support Iraq" but what they really are going to do is "also strike Syria" which means strike Assad.
My country is the open scum and filth of the world.
>>26308146
So, just like Assad, Maliki plunges his country into civil war through insanely heavy-handed, authoritarian treatment of political opposition...and, just like Assad, edgy Putinboos and RIDF are suddenly gonna act like he's a good-governing savior?
>>26308198
>and now they're old as fuck
it's an emergency, age shouldn't be a problem
>>26308200
just shoot yourself faggot
>>26308100
>>no troops in Ukraine
Russia plz
>>26308184
Too poor.
>>26308223
>So, just like Assad, Maliki plunges his country into civil war through insanely heavy-handed, authoritarian treatment of political opposition...and, just like Assad, edgy Putinboos and RIDF are suddenly gonna act like he's a good-governing savior?
except he isn't heavy handed at all, he's a wimp
he even delayed terrorist executions for years till Isis broke into prisons and freed them recently
>>26308146
>Based Russians try to warn us.
That was more Germany, France, and other allies. Russia will simply oppose us for being USA, you can't really use them as a gauge.
>>26308198
see
>>26308142
I knew I read about Iraqi pilots being trained by the US for some time. I don't think it would take too much time to learn to fly other not-so-modern aircraft once you get the basics. Then again I can't really attest to that, though I'm sure they have the appropriate pilots for the aircraft they ordered. Where's your evidence that they can't fly anything what they've ordered?
>>26308200
Obama's so recalcitrant and stupid it's really annoying to watch.
>>26308243
They should unite with China then.
>>26308195
You should spell it out clearly because I don't know what you mean. My understanding is the American traitors will pretend they are sending advisers to help you, but they will really be leading a coup to topple Maliki, and replace him with another puppet, one who will betray Assad.
>Never ever ever ever trust an American
>Find your help and support among Russians, based Iran and Syrians
>>>>26308223
Nope, it's just another regime that America created, supported and financed oppressing its population. So you do that
>>26308295
the "rebels" part
>Never ever ever ever trust an American
i dont ;)
and neither does my government
>>26308295
You speak in regurgitated platitudes from /pol/'s happening threads.
Please stop doing that. We'd like to have a discussion.
>>26308223
You're an open liar on Syria. I have to assume you are doing the same on Iraq, but I can't be sure yet as I am unable to read the whole Maliki thing and what he's doing. I suspect he's a bit of a dumb-ass bumbler more than a heavy-hand sectarian. (but I really can't tell on his dumb ass)
Thank God for Putin, Iran and Assad and now Russia, they give me the great pleasure of seeing idiots like you get destroyed and thwarted.
>>26308153
Firstly, sorry for awful English.
Epic story with T-90 (Russian tanks)
>Algeria wants to buy our tanks
>Russia, we need tanks suitable for hot temperatures
>Algeria, do you need improving qualification level of your tank engineers? We can help
>Yeah, Russia, plz
Algeria bought and now happy.
>India wants to buy our tanks
>Russia, we need tanks
>India, do you need tanks suitable for hot temperatures
>No, fuck off, Russia
>India, do you need improving qualification level of your engineers? We can help
>No fuck off, Russia
>after a couple of months
>Russia, why our tanks can't work in high temperatures and why out tank engineers can't repair them
Fucking Indian logic.
>>26308266
>except he isn't heavy handed at all, he's a wimp
>exclude Sunnis from government completely
>turn a blind eye to Shia militarism because payback
>be surprised when people are mad
Whatever he is, he's fucking retarded and could have easily prevented this. Our policy towards new governments doesn't help, but you can only use that excuse for so long. If you are willing to tell the US to fuck off so you can get your Russian fighters, surely you could've done the same to get a unity government if necessary.
>>26308239
Don't worry about me Schlomo, worry about your own country.
>>26308291
China's poorer than Russia.
>>26308327
>Nope, it's just another regime that America created, supported and financed oppressing its population.
So now its your turn, huh?
>>26308361
>You're an open liar on Syria.
I don't even know what to say to someone this delusional. I guess I'm just grateful that your stuffing your face with cheetos and lurking 4chan and not out actually interacting with people.
>>26308291
China is too reliant on Western exports (especially to US) to do such a thing with Russia.
>>26308287
That's bullshit, we don't show you as OMG EBIL AMERICUNZ in movies. Russia is more than ready to cooperate with USA in important matters but on equal terms.
It's just that 20 years of dominance without serious rival made you a bit overconfident and short sighted.
>>26308367
lol
>>26308386
They're richer than America.
>>26308431
It's just the quintessential teenager that discovered the world through /pol/. I'd advise you not to respond to him unless you want some merchant pics or something
>>26308454
Cold War never ended man, it just receded.
>>26308454
>Russia is more than ready to cooperate with USA in important matters but on equal terms.
Neither of our countries want to do that, because we have almost no mutual interests.
>>26308289
>Then again I can't really attest to that, though I'm sure they have the appropriate pilots for the aircraft they ordered. Where's your evidence that they can't fly anything what they've ordered?
I have to guess and assume here that Iraq still has plenty of pilots from the Saddam era who are checked out on Migs. If they can get those guys out of retirement they shouldn't have any problems getting the "new, old Migs" up in the air.
>Obama's so recalcitrant and stupid it's really annoying to watch.
He's been dragging his feet on bombing Syria (thank God) but remember, that we (the jews who rule the USA) took twenty years to take out Saddam and destroy Iraq, but they did it, and the destruction is continuing right before our eyes today. Also remember That Obomba took out Qaddafi quickly. He is willing to act, but just in his own way on his own time. Don't even think about sleeping comrade.
>>26308100
>No troops in Ukraine.
Sure Josef.
>>26308367
They managed to blow up the submarine that we sold them by using unskilled workers Labour.
>>26308473
Well, no, actually.
>>26308480
>unless you want some merchant pics or something
>implying I don't
I only have like a dozen, I want one for every country/race/religion/etc.
>>26308371
Take a read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_parliamentary_election,_2014
Figures seem pretty reasonable to me:
Shiites 170/328 seats: 51%.
Sunnis (Arab): 43/328; 13%
Sunnis (Kurds): 19%
Everybody else (including secular and independent): 17%.
Shiites got 51% while they represent 65% of the population, and Sunnis got 24% while they represent 35% of the population. Honestly, I don't see any foulplay. I hate to admit it, but sectarianism has been fanned quite a bit by the Gulf states to expand their hegemony over the region. Namely the KSA, and to a slightly lesser extent Qatar. Hate to say it, but It's very easy to make Sunnis butthurt over the smallest thing and make them perceive it as oppression if the rhetoric is based on sectarianism or religion in general.
And from hanging around on various news sites, many Iraqis see Maliki as a wimp like the Iraqi ITT said. I thought they'd be happy when Maliki said the KSA is sponsoring terrorism and that it should stop, but everybody was pissed at him for taking so long to say it. He's trying his best. This whole thing looks like propaganda to me, honestly.
>>26308367
They're very confident of themselves, which will serve them well. Still though, lol. At least aircraft production and purchasing is going fine with them right?
>>26305611
is that really putin? looks like bjergsen
>>26308489
I dont think our countries want the uncontrollable spread of the nuclear or any other WMD for example.
I don't think our countries like terrorism, at least near our own borders. These are mutual interests. Also, space.
>>26308454
>What is the Wolfowitz doctrine comrade?
My country will never "cooperate with you" because they want to destroy Russia. Period. Look at what Nudelman/Kagan are doing to you right now in Ukraine. The jews who rule us have Russia as a target, something to destroy. Nothing has changed since 1917.
Nudelman/Kagan are Russian jews too, your worst enemies. Wolfowitz is a jew obviously. Victoria Nudelman, a NWO jew and obviously a poison and enemy of America, is undersectretary of state for European affairs. (for the USA)
>>26308516
There were tons of articles recently saying they would pull ahead of you this year.
>>26308541
>reports of fraud and voter intimidation on both sides
>Honestly, I don't see any foulplay.
Ok m8.
>>26308287
I remember when Putin made a speech at the G8 saying that the Syrian rebels were savages and we were playing with fire by supporting them, and the entire assembled press and politicians of Britain laughed at him.
They're not laughing anymore.
>>26308463
After that we shouldn't have any business with that dumbs.
>>26308501
Proof or fuck off.
>>26308513
????? ????? ? ???? ??????? ????? ?????????. ??, ??? ? ??? ???????, ???? ??????? ???????, ??? ?????? ??????,
>>26308541
The same shit with aircraft. And with development.
>Russia, let's develop anything
>Ok, let's
After a couple of months
>Russia, what have you done?
>This, this and that. And what have you done, India?
>Nothing
>Why?
>Bad Russia you haven't told me your industry secrets
>>26308541
>but everybody was pissed at him for taking so long to say it.
(Iraqis)
>I have to guess and assume here that Iraq still has plenty of pilots from the Saddam era who are checked out on Migs. If they can get those guys out of retirement they shouldn't have any problems getting the "new, old Migs" up in the air.
Lol. Hopefully that's true and there are more pilots on the way. Shit's real fucked up meng.
>Don't even think about sleeping comrade.
Everybody knows this. I don't for a second think that Maliki trusts Obama in the slightest. Eh, the times we're living in.
>>26308431
>>26308480
>Please don't let the truth out, let's keep to our jewish NWO talking points comrades.
Dear Russia and Syria and Iran: can you see why your winning and raping these fucking jews gives me so much pleasure???
You two (or one) imbeciles are more likely to be junk-food eating cows than I am.
>>26308371
>exclude Sunnis from government completely
that's stupid, the government forces that deserted in Mosul were sunni,
the military academy has a quota on sunni-shia officers
each province has it's funding share based on number of citizens including all sunni provinces
provide a source that sunnis were excluded
>>turn a blind eye to Shia militarism because payback
no he didn't
in fact all the shia militias were disbanded in 2008
including a large assault on basrah to distroy mahdi army ordered by almaliki
>>be surprised when people are mad
not really surprised
Sunnis were mad in Algeria and killed half a million even though the country is 100% sunni
sunnis are mad in Egypt even though he country is 90% sunny with no minority participation in government
that's how sunnis roll
>>26308605
Well, I couldn't find anything on the matter in the article. Nevertheless, are they confirmed?
>>26308609
To be fair, Assad is partly responsible for ISIS' rise because he deliberately avoided confrontation with them. He even released several prisoners from that group.
>>26308615
>Proof or fuck off.
Typical Russian mentality - demand for proof, then proceed to dismiss any proof as "western imperialist fabrication"
>>26308566
USA Just approved another 500 million for the terrorists in Syria (the ones we are going to pretend to fight in Iraq)
In my country the only terrorists we want to destroy is you comrade.
>>26308671
Funny how you say that before any proof is provided.
>>26308566
>I dont think our countries want the uncontrollable spread of the nuclear or any other WMD for example.
Hence why I said almost none.
>I don't think our countries like terrorism, at least near our own borders. These are mutual interests.
We don't have to worry about Muslim extremism being near us for the most part, we just have to worry about it crashing the energy market. Which would be great for Russia, it would hugely elevate your global influence.
>Also, space.
No one cares about space any more. Just as well, I suppose.
>>26308572
Look at that chart m8.
You're thinking of total GDP, not per capita.
>>26308146
>if iraq had proper air defence
ISIS has its own air force, superior to iraqi one?
the moar you know
Miss me yet?
>>26308609
Putin and his warm water port really could not be considered an impartial source, and he had done nothing to dissuade suspicions that it wasn't simply realpolitik.
Now we have the Ukraine situation and I'm not sure those politicians stopped laughing.
>>26308664
He also helped them out with logistics and weapons when they were fighting us in Iraq.
>>26308679
Wait wait wait, congress actually approved it? Every link I go through says Obama just asked with no answer out of congress still. Would be so fucking disappointing.
>>26308664
It was the now-fossilized FSA that welcomed Nusra to fight their battles for them because they couldn't since foreign revolutions oftentimes don't work. And that welcomed ISIS. They were assbuddies for a while with ISIS and Nusra spearheading most of the advances. ISIS and Nusra currently merged in many parts of the country.
>>26308651
He's an American, unless there are corporations financing election campaigns to the tune of millions of pounds, it's not a free and fair election for him.
>Putin meddling in America's oil affairs
This ain't gonna be good.
>>26308717
he means air cover
>>26308686
We can make assumptions because it happens all the time.
People on this board are so fucking predictable.
>>26308783
I am happy
Perhaps burgers will realize who they're dealing with, and start taking russian threat seriously
>>26308671
If Russia had sent any troops into Ukraine they would now be kicking Poroshekels head around like a soccer ball in Kiev comrade. The imaginary Kiev Junta army can't even beat a thrown-together militia of volunteers and veterans.
This is so glorious to see the jews finally lose on all fronts.
Never sleep comrades, because your enemies are playing for keeps, and they don't stop just because you win one or two wars.
>>26308651
Violence was confirmed, can't say about fraud. Google is no help because its old news now.
>>26308745
They really have stopped laughing, at least publicly. Honestly, the British political class are falling over themselves to disavow any interventionist policies now, I believe the only politician who hasn't actually said the iraq War was a colossal mistake is Big Tone himself, and he's generally assumed to be a complete maniac now. The days of naked neoconservatism are well and truly dead. Now begins glorious isolationism.
>>26308754
It's hard to say. It's an election year so congress will make a point of prostrating, but at the end of the day nearly everyone there likes to spend the most money as possible on anything military-related.
>26308772
That's definitely topical
>>26308729
>Trying to genocide the only competent group in Iraq
Yeah, no. You know nothing about Saddam. Go away.
>>26308799
I think he's just looking for an excuse, and refuses to admit cowardice of his troops and failure of iraqi government to adress the situation
>>26308814
Why don't you fight your own wars you pathetic little slavshit? Stop dragging better countries down to your little mud-slinging match with mother russia.
>>26308814
>start taking russian threat seriously
I can't stop taking polish delirium seriously
>>26308844
>The days of naked neoconservatism are well and truly dead. Now begins glorious isolationism.
A bit of history m8, it's always the same in both our countries. Someone is cooking up new casus belli as we speak.
>>26308844
Oh you're talking about Iraq? Yeah most of out politicians have distanced themselves from that now.
It was actually more newsworthy here (fuck I hate US media) that one of the conservative talking heads (Glenn Beck) said the liberals here were right in saying Iraq was a bad idea.
US politics are so god damn chaotic these days.
>>26308783
>>26308814
There is no Russian threat. We are the threat. This time Russia isn't weak, and Russia isn't led by an idiot (Yeltzin) that's the difference, that's why you see Russia not losing and you see Russia not backing down on anything.
Thank God Russia is back and thank God for Vladimir Putin.
Vladimir....................Kosovo, it's not too late comrade......
>>26308814
Anybody wondering why ISIS hasn't made a push towards Baghdad?
It's like someone ordered the not to.
Gee, I wonder who.
>>26308888
Unless they have some unholy plan to get involved in other countries (like, 9/11 tier), I think we can safely say that the interventionist policies of the last decade will never happen again. The West couldn't even conduct air strikes on Syria, when at the beginning of the century they could invade multiple countries within a few years.
>>26308915
>There is no Russian threat.
>This time Russia isn't weak, and Russia isn't led by an idiot (Yeltzin) that's the difference, that's why you see Russia not losing and you see Russia not backing down on anything.
...
>>26308867
whatever, i'm just glad russia is helping us
russia is our natural friend and ally
russia is love
russia is...life
>>26308946
ISIS won't touch Baghdad. They are no match for Iran and the Shiite militias there.
>>26308946
I doubt they have the strength to take it without unacceptably high losses.
>>26308995
>I think we can safely say that the interventionist policies of the last decade will never happen again.
People say this at the end of every war that goes sideways. Just give it a few years, you'll see.
>>26308946
they have sleeper cells there and have done one bomb already in a market.
but yeah, there's iraqi soldiers on every street corner.
>>26308772
The home of the Free, indeed.
>>26308783
Nah, this time there's nothing they can do. Too many fronts open, too little (if any) allies left and an economy indebted to the max and in shambles.
>>26306540
I don't get this
Why is he sending them more money?
Is he hoping that they will attack Syria? Is he afraid of Russia nad Iraq becoming friendly?
>>26308995
>I think we can safely say that the interventionist policies of the last decade will never happen again
I just don't know what to say. The military and intelligence branches of our government receive trillions of dollars specifically for the purpose of fucking around. Similarly, the population is largely convinced that said spending is more important than domestic issues like infrastructure or social services.
The UK may take that path, but there's no chance in hell the US is going that way without something extremely powerful happens that dishevels our government and population in a truly profound way.
>>26308915
>>26309004
Guys, we are really not threat.
>>26309012
So cute, ahi :3
>>26308946
>It's like someone ordered the not to.
baghdad has a shia majority
it won't be so friendly
>>26309037
>take it without unacceptably high losses.
to ever take it*
>>26309063
>Is he afraid of Russia nad Iraq becoming friendly?
If that was his concern he wouldn't be doing it.
>>26308915
pol pls go
The 3-state solution that people talked about for years before even the 2003 invasion is happening by itself. Why try to keep the artificial construct Iraq alive when it has never proven to be stable unless it has a Stalinesque dictator. Let the Shias, Sunnis and Kurds fight this one out and draw the borders where the fronts stabilize.
Thank you, Based Putin.
Fuck you the rest who created this mess. (Here's looking at you USA and your coalition of the willing)
>>26308754
>President Barack Obama has asked the US Congress to approve $500m (£294m) to train and equip what he described as "moderate" Syrian opposition forces.
>The funds would help Syrians defend against forces aligned with President Bashar al-Assad, the White House said.
>The aid would also counter Islamist militants such as the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (Isis), it added.
>Isis's advance in neighbouring Iraq has led some in Congress to press Mr Obama to take action.
Yeah like "sending another $500 million to ISIS in Syria". That's some solid action there Mr. Traitor.
>Tens of thousands of people have died and millions more have been displaced in three years of civil war in Syria, as rebels fight troops loyal to Mr Assad.
>"This funding request would build on the administration's longstanding efforts to empower the moderate Syrian opposition, both civilian and armed," the White House said.
This means-- Sending money to ISIS and al Ciada.
>It will also "enable the Department of Defense to increase our support to vetted elements of the armed opposition".
Source:http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28042309
If they do or if they don't approve this bill, it still means they are funding and arming the anti-Assad terrorists in Syria the whole time. This is the biggest fake phoney war ever fought.
>Pretend to fight ISIS in Iraq
>Openly arming, funding and training ISIS in Jordan and Syria
>USA
>>26309103
Karbala is protected now, I hope so?
>>26309120
Sorry jew, the world is waking up to the real threat.
>>26308772
Hah! Not far-fetched at all.
>>26308831
>dat pic
Why's this guy so fucking hellbent on screwing the ME beyond repair for the coming half century.
May I say, gee, I wonder why, maybe? That's a can of worms I'd rather not open though if you get my drift. And yeah exactly, a couple of battles won here and there won't do much. There's always the possibility of a hard-hitting sucker-punch. No one's sleeping 'round here.
>>26308851
Isn't the government and congress seen as huge problems with handling tax-payer money? It's like they're not aware of the US public's discontent at all. Then again, maybe Iraq and Syria are seen as a quick buck, but I doubt the public would support anything in the ME anymore.
That said, the higher ups will get their way regardless of anybody else's wishes, see:
>>26308844
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_the_Iraq_War
>Europe saw the biggest mobilization of protesters, including a rally of three million people in Rome, which is listed in the Guinness Book of Records as the largest ever anti-war rally.
And they still barebacked.
>>26308836
Violence was expected, and there was a lot of violence in Egypt and Afghanistan too and those elections were accepted pretty much unequivocally by Western governments. It's just that they decide who's legitimate or not, and we've grown to learn that they're pretty Machiavellian in nature, so, eh.
>>26309095
>Guys, we are really not threat.
That's exactly what threat would say. Threat confirmed.
>>26308814
>Russia bad
>America good
Go lick Pope's balls, Slav traitor.
>>26309123
I agree with this being the best solution.
It will be messy, but it was how things were done for thousands of years in that region.
We made the borders and they clearly don't work.
>>26309200
I am tired of your delirium.
>>26309123
A lamefag yuo are.
Because it is not an Iraqi civil war, it's a proxy war fought by others where the iraqi factions are their cannon-fodder niggers.
>>26309144
You have no idea how many Americans are coming around, and think the same way comrade.
I have felt this way the whole time, but now my comrades here are coming around too.
>>26309213
Threat increasing.
>>26309177
it was always protected
it's 95% shia with the rest 5% christian and sabians
>>26309120
Dude we are legit the bad guys this time around, we've turned the entire area into a hellhole with no hope for anyone there except our people that will leave sooner than later.
>>26309230
The borders of Iraq were drawn with the intent in mind to make it a shit hole easily controlled.
Ameriburgers, please learn:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-interventionism
Why didn't US react with their carriers in the Gulf?
It's not like they aren't ready to bomb Iran in any given moment. They would just have to turn their course a little bit to the west.
>>26309049
Maybe, but in Britain there is some serious anger over Iraq and Afghanistan. We were always a lot more against the Iraq War than America was, the media as pretty much united against it, unlike America, plus we didn't have 9/11 to get us riled up for war. We were pretty much dragged kicking and screaming into the middle-east by our politicians and the people have not forgiven them, I don't think they ever will.
I mean, look at Syria for example. I watched Parliament debate whether we should intervene live and the number one argument against it every time was Iraq. That was before ISIS, before any of this shit. It was bad then, now it's going to be worse.
Unless MI6 blow up Buckingham Palace or the Argies decide to have a go again, the British army is going nowhere,
>>26309068
I don't know about America, things are very different. But I do know that, right now, as a British politician, saying that you're going to fuck around in the middle east is pretty much career destroying stuff. British press hates it, British people hate it.
>>26309153
Can you provide any sources showing funding/support going to ISIS?
>>26309230
on some aspects it is a civil war with iraq sunnis throwing isis as cannon fodders
>>26309191
>Isn't the government and congress seen as huge problems with handling tax-payer money?
Its approval rating is the lowest it's been in a century if not longer: 7%.
Everyone hates them and wishes them painful deaths, but the two-party system is ingrained too deep, and our people are too stupid and ignorant.
>>26309237
Fuck.
>>26309244
In sha Allah Iraq will deal with takfiri
>>26309200
>Saviour of the white race
>Threat
Post under your own flag you wretched jew.
>>26309191
>there was a lot of violence in Egypt and Afghanistan too and those elections were accepted pretty much unequivocally by Western governments.
Hence what I'm getting at, those were fraudulent as well.
Well, Egypt was, Afghanistan just doesn't even have the infrastructure to have what we recognize as elections, even fraudulent ones.
>>26309191
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_the_Iraq_War
In the US, protests were almost solely the providence of the left- with the politicians and media berating them for hating freedom and America. Conservatives were for the war, of course, but the so-called liberals in the Democratic party were just as eager for it.
"With us or against us" was a particularly famous phrase used by them.
>>26309266
Obama doesn't want to kill his minions
>>26309266
That would destroy any hope of a negotiation or unity government.
>>26309362
Who were the stealth jets that bombed the ISIS positions then?
>>26309290
>Russian speaking muslims
THREAT LEVEL URGENT, LAUNCH THE NUKES!
>>26309386
i'm just talking shit
but how do you know they were stealth?
>>26305925
>holding terrified blue-eyed boy
>rest of the family is sand people
What the hell?
>>26309386
they weren't stealth
they were syrian
>>26309386
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/26/maliki-syrian-planes-bomb-iraq-isis-us
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/2014/06/26/Kerry-issues-warning-after-Syria-bombs-Iraq.html
Thanks you based Assad.
>>26309354
>In the US, protests were almost solely the providence of the left- with the politicians and media berating them for hating freedom and America.
This is the fundamental difference between the US and UK in the Iraq War. The media in the UK were united against it, the politicians were united for it. Politicians went through with it anyway, now they are being completely destroyed in the press,
>>26309408
I study Arabic and Arabic culture in university, stop butthurting.
>>26309283
They pretend they aren't sending the money to ISIS, so they can have deniability. But this war has two sides-- Assad/SAA and the al-Ciada rebels.
We, hah, "we" are sending money and weapons to the al-Ciada side, which includes ISIS. (While pretending to fight the same side in Iraq) The whole war is a giant CIA web of lies.
Has the US government, ever told the truth, about anything, ever??
>>26309266
Whole other side of Iraq.
>>26309418
tit squeeze is haram.
>>26309440
Holy fuck. This man can't get any more based.
>>26309440
Slava Asadu
>>26309386
Witnesses stated Assad personally flew jets against ISIS, jumped out and engaged them in hand to hand combat, slaying hundreds, and the prophet (pbuh) himself came down from heaven and blessed him forever.
Long live Based Assad the lion of syria.
>>26309440
>ISIS takes over IRaq
>"Wee need to do something but we don't know what...."
>Assad DOES something
>ANOTHER SHOAAAA ASSAD STILL A TREAT FOR AMERIFREEDOMS WE NEED TO STOP HIM.."
fuck them
>>26309440
>http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/26/maliki-syrian-planes-bomb-iraq-isis-us
>http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/2014/06/26/Kerry-issues-warning-after-Syria-bombs-Iraq.html
>Don't you dare attack ISIS, oops, I mean, our "enemies" ISIS, Syria, or else!!
This stupid war for Israel just keeps getting faker and faker. I think the whole ISIS fiasco was created by the CIA to give us an excuse to finally bomb Assad. Hopefully Russia is paying attention and able to totally rape the disgusting vile traitor jews who rule us again, like in Crimea.
>>26309440
>U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry had warned against the threat and said other nations should stay out.
Jesus fucking christ, the hypocrisy is fucking astounding.
>>26309408
>>26309418
Assad is a secret gypsy and the boy was kidnapped
>>26309440
How is Assad viewed in Lebanon?
>>26309514
There is nothing this man cannot do.
topkek
that Boris under US proxy trying too hard
>>26309266
Well, the fact that they are not bombing or doing anything at all against ISIS talks in itself gigantically loud about where US truly stands.
I knew I should've voted for Romney.
Fuck Obama so much.
>On the diplomatic front, British Foreign Secretary William Hague arrived in Baghdad to urge Iraqi politicians to unite against the "existential threat" from the Sunni insurgents.
>Hague said the country must form an inclusive government across sectarian lines to unite Iraqis against ISIS.
Non-bongs ITT, this man is a fucking joke in Britain. He was the first politician in 100 years to be leader of a party and never win an election. Do not take anything he says seriously.
>>26309055
>Nah, this time there's nothing they can do. Too many fronts open, too little (if any) allies left and an economy indebted to the max and in shambles.
That's what over a decade of constant wars does to your economy. But at least the military-industrial companies profited, right?
>>26309581
?? ??? ??? ???? ?????? ?? ????? ?????????
>>26309581
hello bro
u european yet?
>>26309593
>voting for the red jew instead of the blue jew
I refer you to my previous post. >>26308772
>>26309593
>voting
That wont change anything.
>>26309581
how has being an american pawn been for you?
>>26309063
>afraid of Russia nad Iraq becoming friendly
Yes. Time to arm ISIS with anti-aircraft missiles before jets wrecked them.
>>26309581
Confirmed for being ignorant as always and never hearing about conservatives in US.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcd8Hxc8UI4
>>26309262
>ameriburgers
rude
>non-interventionism
didn't work out very well in either world war
>inb4 vietnam
unlike vietnam, isis actually poses are large threat in the middle east and WILL spread. they already control nearly every major city (with the exception of baghdad) in iraq, and a decent amount of syria too iirc
>>26309626
They will be happy until salafits start fighting there
After that
>Russia help plz
>>26308814
Have poles every fought their own wars? In both world wars they cried and whined for british, french or murkan help while getting assfucked, then once the war is done they lick the ass of whoever gives them the most crumbs.
Fucking embarrassing. Poland used to be cool when it was a real power and not a joke of a nation that bows to everyone willing to offer it crumbs.
>>26309622
The funniest delusion people here have is that voting actually does something.
>>26309581
Can't wait until your children are cleaning my toilet.
I'm going to tell them what gullible idiots their parents were for trusting the West.
>>26309451
Yeah, but how can I substantiate your claims?
>>26309247
How are we bad guys? The US government doesn't even need authorization from the people at all to start their wars. The government is basically a foreign force funded by the highest bidder, with nothing in common with actual Americans.
They represent Israel more than me ffs.
>>26309642
>they already control nearly every major city (with the exception of baghdad) in iraq
no they don't you moron
they only control northern iraq excluding kurdish area
>>26309528
>I think the whole ISIS fiasco was created by the CIA
>yfw it was created by none other than Bashar the Lion
>>26308750
>>26309679
but anon those are just "limited interventions"
sending 500.000 people to fight somewhere is a limited intervention
>>26309593
>implying votes matter
>implying the true ruling establishment can be voted out by plebs in elections
Next you'll be telling us tha America is a democracy, land of the free and etc...
>>26309546
Kerry is the king of hypocrites. You should have seen how he started crying crocodile tears about ukraine and crimea while screaming that the wars in iraq and afghanistan or libya don't justify crimean referendum.
>>26309593
If Romney the super-puppet of Israel had won, we would already be exchanging nuclear weapons and been radio-active ash-heap years ago comrade.
Obomba has kept us out of a hot war with Russia at least, until now.
>>26309609
nebogano, signed associate membership deal today, feels gud
>>26309581
I'm your Huckleberry comrade.
Wtff Is that still going? Did Iraqi government hold Baghdad? Is 90% of Irak under ISIL control still? Did ISIL conquer everything? Haven't been on 4chan lately
>>26309648
You can start revolution.
