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What are some obscure cultures, states, or tribes I've probably never heard of?
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>>997036
What the actual fuck am I looking at? The cultural origin of pyramid-head?
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The chonos
The changos

Very few is known about them
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>>997055
Patagonian natives, I think
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>>997036
>yo lil vanilla face you wanna settle on my land? I'll thundershock your ass bitch

You probably havent heard much about amazonian civilization(s) because well, there's not much we know about it yet

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/15/world/americas/land-carvings-attest-to-amazons-lost-world.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn27945-myth-of-pristine-amazon-rainforest-busted-as-old-cities-reappear/
http://news.discovery.com/history/archaeology/astonishing-ancient-amazon-civilization-discovery-detailed.htm

TL;DR
> Archaeologists have uncovered dense urban centres that would have been home to up to 10,000 inhabitants along riverbanks, with fields and cultivated orchards of Brazil nuts, palm and fruit trees stretching for tens of kilometres. Remote sensing has revealed extensive earthworks, including cities, causeways, canals, graveyards and huge areas of ridged fields

>We are talking of enourmous structures, with diameters ranging from 100 to 300 meters, connected by straight orthogonal roads. They are strategically located on plateaux tops above the river valleys
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>>997036
Explain pic related to us.
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>>997202
Yaghan people of Tierra del Fuego would wear elaborate masks and paint their bodies during religious ceremonies
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>>997134
Check out Kuhikugu in the XingĂș region.

>>997296
The Selknam are interesting, sad they were genocided to extinction.

https://vimeo.com/22456501
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>>997338
>tfw you will not be a Spirit to protect a Selknam qt.
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>>997056
You are wrong, the changos lived north of Chile, rhos are the Onas who lived south
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>>997427
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>>997411
I'm not saying Changos were op's pic related, I'm saying Changos and Chonos are examples of obscure precolumbian people.
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>>997338
these are incredibly cool
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>>997338
Is this the native version of the Klan?
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This are the Selknam they lived in the south of south america, near Antartica, and they went around dressed like that on the cold.

From that region you have Yaganes, Yamanes Onas y Selknam.

They have some crazy mythology.
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>>997036
This is a bronzeworking civilization that coexisted with Shang China around 1000 BC. It was really only discovered in the '80s:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanxingdui
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The Tlingit are pretty based

iirc their entire society was pretty much based around rape
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>>998657
The Bronze Tree in particular is considered one of the most complex bronze artifacts from the Chalcolithic.
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>>998667
Also quite good looking
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>>998667
Before 1867 the Tlingit were avid practitioners of slavery. The outward wealth of a person or family was roughly calculated by the number of slaves held. Slaves were taken from all peoples that the Tlingit encountered, from the Aleuts in the west, the Athabascan tribes of the interior, and all of the many tribes along the Pacific coast as far south as California. Slaves were bought and sold in a barter economy along the same lines as any other trade goods. They were often ceremonially freed at potlatches, the giving of freedom to the slave being a gift from the potlatch holder. However, they were just as often ceremonially killed at potlatches as well, to demonstrate economic power or to provide slaves for dead relatives in the afterlife. Treatment of slaves seems to have differed from individual to individual, and both stories and historical records give examples of slaves being treated very kindly as well as very cruelly.

Since slavery was an important economic activity to the Tlingit, it came as a tremendous blow to the society when emancipation was enforced in Alaska after its purchase by the United States from Russia. This forced removal of slaves from the culture incensed many Tlingit who were not so disturbed by its outlawing as much as by the fact that they were not repaid for their loss of property. In a move traditional against those with unpaid debts, a totem pole was erected that would shame the Americans for not having paid back the Tlingits for their loss, and at its top for all to see was a very carefully executed carving of Abraham Lincoln, whom the Tlingits were told was the person responsible for freeing the slaves. This has since been frequently misinterpreted as intending to honor Lincoln, but it was in fact done as a way to shame the US government into repaying the Tlingits for a profound loss of wealth.
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Asaro Mudmen.
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>>997370
AN ENEMY STAND!
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>>998694
>>997036

Fucking awesome. Why cant all natives put in this much effort. If you want us to protect your culture get to making some wacky masks or I'll chop down your forests without remorse
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>>997449
Does this count as yellow fever?
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>>998716
Almost.

Ainu natives Hokkaido.
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>>998707
Honestly, I think all tribes except the most miserable either had awesome masks, awesome bodypaint, complicated dances and music, intensive body modification, great handicrafts, ridiculously complicated religious rituals and social structures, or a combination of the above. People have to keep busy, you know.
But it's more popular to show them sitting on their asses or falling into white trash-style modernity.
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>>998741
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>>998741
>no mustache
What is this, a ladyboy?
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>>998673
>Americans want to genocide this
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>>998758
looks like a pokemon evolving
>>998759
hot
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TĂĄltos (Hungarian shaman)
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>>998809
Wasnt that the Kende or some shit?
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>>997036
I'm sorry, but that guy on the right sorta reminds me of Pikachu.

I just can't unsee it
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>>998813
I guess that would have been the Hungarian pope. This is just a regular shaman though.
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>>998758
Kind of this. Most did, at least according to the ethnohistoric record. But those kinds of practices didn't last very long after colonization because missionaries worked hard to end it. Many of the ceremonies that involved that stuff also weren't very public, so it was easy for secret knowledge and traditions to die out.
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>>998667
Love their armor
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>>999574
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>>999578
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>>999580
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>>998694
There's a manga on them.
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Who can tell me of the Muisca Confederacy?
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>>1000458
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Miwok here. Don't forget about me, or my plebeian acorn-meal diet.
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>>998694
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>>997036
If they're from pataogina how do they wear such little clothes? They must be freezing their asses off.
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>>997338
>Selk'nam religion was a complex system of beliefs. It described spirit beings as a part of the past, in creation myth. Temåukel was the name of the great supernatural entity who they believed kept the world order. The creator deity of the world was called Kénos or Quénos.[8]

>Many of their tales recounted shaman-like characters. Such a /xon/ has supernatural capabilities, e.g. he can control weather.

sounds pretty similar to abo mythology
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>>997036
Is this a history thread, or a creepy stuff thread?
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>>997036
If I was a European explorer seeing this shit for the first time, I would have thought I literally arrived in hell.
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>>1000492
Are they related to Ohlone?
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>>1000564
I read somewhere they used whale oil or something to rub on their skin to keep them warm. Also they have large fur capes and hats in some photos.
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>there are still uncontacted peoples in the 21st century
I wonder what they think when a plane flies overhead
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>>1000573
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selknam_mythology

They have been described as henotheistic, but they believe there's one god and the ancestors or spirits, that are the founding fathers, the first humans.

The spirits you see there are a revenge between men and womans, over some complicated dispute.
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>>1000622
Doesn't buzzing them with planes and helicopters already fundamentally alter these "uncontacted" tribes? I mean I'd imagine something like that would fuck with their minds quite a bit.
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>>1000622
Something along these lines, probably:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK7XBHc3TQM
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>>1000639
nah they probably just give it some mythological explanation and then forgot it happened because they gotta get dat jungle meat and build more mud huts
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>>1000654
That mud huts look comfy as hell.
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>>1000622
Most of them are aware of westerners though from their neighbors who do deal with them. Also many of them choose to go uncontacted cause they had shitty experiences with foreigners in the past .
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>>1000654

That cunt has a steel machete.
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The Baining of Papua New Guinea:

> The Baining—one of the indigenous cultural groups of Papua New Guinea—have the reputation, at least among some researchers, of being the dullest culture on earth. Early in his career, in the 1920s, the famous British anthropologist Gregory Bateson spent 14 months among them, until he finally left in frustration. He called them “unstudiable,” because of their reluctance to say anything interesting about their lives and their failure to exhibit much activity beyond the mundane routines of daily work, and he later wrote that they lived “a drab and colorless existence.”

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/freedom-learn/201207/all-work-and-no-play-make-the-baining-the-dullest-culture
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>>1000537
I wonder if any of them have shitposted on 4chan.
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>>1000622
I remember reading of how an Afghan soldier was saying that when he was a young teenager he saw a helicopter for the first time in his life, and he honestly thought it was a monster coming to fuck his shit up
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>>997323
Their descendants have comfy homes. But the villages are way smaller now. They used to support estimations of up to 10,000 or so people in these village clusters centered around a central larger one.
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>>1002322
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>>1002063
He wasn't wrong.
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>>1002322
>>1002373
Lucky savages one their home have more space than mine one, why, why I am not lucky savage!?
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>>1001354
they loot stuff from lumberyards
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>>1002441
there is prob like 50 savages in that one home
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>>997338
Always think these guys look like something from the Might Boosh
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>>1000573
/xon/ board when?
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>>1002499
This, plus you gotta work for everything you have. But the good side is you get to see naked qt's 24/7.
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>>1002542
There was this documentary where this BBC documentary crew were living with some natives and as the women all go nude the natives stripped one of the women on the crew. Was pretty hot.
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>>1001609
>Want to be as civilised as possible
>Hate nature
>Hate play because that's animal shit
>Hate sex
>Dancing is okay but only if it's incredibly intricate and meaningless
>Just work all day, that's what real humans do
>They will literally beat their kids for having fun
God this is really depressing and somehow sort of familiar.
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>>1002559
Was it the one where they went to some tribe in Papua and they lived in tree houses?
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>>998783
What movie is this from?
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>>1002575
They were in tree houses but it was in Borneo I think, probably thinking the same thing
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Culture is weird, some people dress up as bushes
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>>999580
>>999578
Dem helmets.
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>>1002624
To be fair that's a European favorite too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bal_des_Ardents
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Post more qt natives
For research and such
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It's funny that as a kid I had this view of native Americans all smoking peace pipes, wearing feathers, having totem poles, riding horses without saddle and fighting in the American revolution. Turns out I got a few mixed up into one
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>>1002624
I find it hard to belive, that they didn't dressed like this just to make me laugh.
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>>999644
>Otoyomegatari and now this

why are nips so good at ethnography?
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>>1002432
reddit
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>>998678
>And you'll STAY UP THERE until we get our slaves back!
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>>1002674
Fuck you reddit. Just say you want to fap you faggot. Nobody can trace you or check your fucking post history you moron.
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>>1002432
Maybe, but imagine that, seeing a helicopter but to you it's a totally alien thing.
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>>1002820
>implying BRRRRRRRRT doesn't happen to middle-eastern civilians
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>>998678
Lol
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>>1003032
What?
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Marajoara culture in the Amazon is pretty interesting.
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>>1003155
They also found these curious thongs (you can see the holes to pass the string around). They think these may have been for ritual purposes, but examinations on them show their wear so maybe it was more in use than is believed.
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>>1003181
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>>1002322

>good urban planning
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>>1003128
the universal sound of blasting muzzies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvIJvPj_pjE
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>>1003198
This response >>1003032
has nothing to do with the fact that this redditor >>1002432 is polluting the board with reddit memes.
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>>1002903
he is just being silly you autist
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>>1003224
do you consider the string of words "he wasn't wrong" a meme? does reddit have a patent or something?
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>>1000622
>>1000654

>implying they havent allready contacted 'normal people' and that isnt why theyre ran in hiding to fucking nowhere and shooting at helicopters
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>>997055
Selk'nam
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>>1002322
Anthropologist Michael Heckenberger of the University of Florida teamed with the local Kuikuro people in the Brazilian state of Mato Grosso to uncover 28 towns, villages and hamlets that may have supported as many as 50,000 people within roughly 7,700 square miles (20,000 square kilometers) of forest—an area slightly smaller than New Jersey. The larger towns boasted defensive ditches 10 feet (three meters) deep and 33 feet (10 meters) wide backed by a wooden palisade as well as large plazas, some reaching 490 feet (150 meters) across.

The remains of houses and ceramic cooking utensils show that humans occupied these cities for around 1,000 years, from roughly 1,500 years to as recently as 400 years ago. Satellite pictures reveal that during that time, the inhabitants carved roads through the jungle; all plaza villages had a major road that ran northeast to southwest along the summer solstice axis and linked to other settlements as much as three miles (five kilometers) away. There were bridges on some of the roads and others had canoe canals running alongside them.

The remains of the settlements also hint at surrounding large fields of manioc, or cassava (a starchy root that is still a staple part of the Brazilian diet) as well as the earthen dams and artificial ponds of fish farming, still practiced by people who may be the present-day descendants of the Kuikuro. Although such "garden cities," as Heckenberger describes them in Science, do not match the dense urbanism of contemporary Brazilian metropolises such as Rio de Janeiro or SĂŁo Paulo, they do blend seamlessly into the jungle and maximize use of limited natural resources. They also suggest that the rainforest bears the marks of intense human habitation, rather than being pristine.
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>>1001609
Baneing?
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>>1000000
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>>1003368

huh, I'm a Florida alumnus. I wonder if Michael Heckenberger still works here
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>>1002674
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>>1000622
>I wonder what they think when a plane flies overhead
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>>1000654

>mfw I read filename as "dindu island"
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>>1000657
You'd be amazed how comfortable a mud hut can look if made well enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P73REgj-3UE
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>>1002674
From bolivia.
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Zangbeto from west african tradition, they function as spiritual police, patrolling the streets for miscreants.
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>>1004477
Neat
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>>997036
These are dancers of Qoyllur Riti or Star Snow Festival, they represent the ukuku, a demigod born of a human woman and a Jukumari, an andean bear.
Many things are said about the ukuku, like he was so fucking strong, liked to bring glacier water to the people in times of need, he was able cross the boundary between worlds, and that he was the only one able to face the "condemned", evil souls that wander the andean glaciers at night.
One version of the legend says that the ukuku clashed with his father to free his mother and together they returned to civilization but soon he was rejected by the people for being so strong and frightening.
Then, he lived alone in the wild, like a hermit. Where gods granted him knowledge of the secret of the world that he had to keep for himself forever.
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>>1004844
Another pic
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>>1003181
>>1003187
/fa/shionable crotch armor.
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>>998845
Thing is many people were beaten into self loathing over their ways or culture and that is a sentiment very hard to remove from a person as seen with victims of the Residential Schools forgetting their mother tongue or still be able to speak it but shamed to the point they'll never utter another word of it.

What's worse is that it spreads from generation to generation with abuse in various ways often being the perpetrator of the same style of upbringing that they themselves were victim too.

Worldwide it kinda varies. New world it's super heavy but it's pretty frequent in other parts of the world and manifests in different forms.
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Nice thread you have here.
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>>1004983
It is really sad, my grandmother was Tr'ondek Hwech'in but there wasn't a trace of pride in her heritage and died ashamed who she was. First Nations people here in Canada have been royally fucked over with no clear solution to their problems. The government keeps throwing money at them but their reserves are on the worst possible land in many cases, and between the rampant alcoholism, drug use, and corruption, it really only serves to make racists hate them more. Thankfully some tribes are managing to turn things around and natives are Canada's fastest growing demographic, so whatever happens in the next few decades should be interesting
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>>1005039
>The government keeps throwing money at them but their reserves are on the worst possible land in many cases

Big flaw I see in many parts of the world.

Throwing money with no real analysis of the problem. worst thing is that when it doesn't work it'll lead them to say "well we gave them money but nothing changed SO NOTHING WORKS!" even if they ignore the constant 3rd party consultations and recommendations.
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>>1002559
>>1002575
>>1002605
sauce
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>>1004431
till the bugs come.
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>>1005106
When reading Portrait of the Artist there was a quote which really rung true in regards to the fundamentally destructive legacy of colonialism.
In regards to the English language in Ireland, the main character says:
"The language in which we are speaking is his before it is mine. How different are the words home, Christ, ale, master, on his lips and on mine! I cannot speak or write these words without unrest of spirit. His language, so familiar and so foreign, will always be for me an acquired speech. I have not made or accepted its words. My voice holds them at bay. My soul frets in the shadow of his language."
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>>1005135
Human Planet, Jungle Episode

Pretty relevant and interesting documentary for this thread in general actually
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>>1005135
https://youtu.be/EoBBswrVtDw

Title is wrong but its the clip in question.
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>>1005487
What is the guy doing at 5:10

https://youtu.be/IXrQDk662uE
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>>1005009
fuck you Jackson, the Cherokee did nothing wrong
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>>1002674
qt native peruvian models dressed as ñustas (female inca nobility).
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>>1005615
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>>997296
I love how whenever we see bitch ass crazy shit and ask for an explanation, "religious ceremonies" always seems to satisfy people. And then we yell fedora when people suggest confidence in faith is indicative of mental disorder.
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>>997449
holy shit my part native wife kinda looks like those
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>>1005644
>part native wife

Consider sudoku.
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>>1005617

>>1005009
Didn't he adopted a native as son?
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>>1005688
Play a game of sudoku with a native girl?
Also native girls can be hot senpai.
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>>1005487
l-lewd
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>>1005698
Are these recreations of precolumbian incas? What is this part of?
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>>1005688
isnt that the jap tile game
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>>1005741
I think he meant seppuku.
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>>1005755

No seppuku is the one with the numbers and boxes
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>>1005741
>>1005755
Lurk moar.
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>>1005720
Here is the album
http://s1217.photobucket.com/user/incanato/library/incas?sort=6&page=1
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>>1005760
you cant touch me oldfag; i'm armored in ignorance and you are gonna deal with this
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>>998667
Based around rape?? Further reading pls...
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Sambia people are focused on the moeity of masculinity. They have a powerful distaste for women. They worship dicks. They have dicksucking as a ritual. They hurt themselves by eating rough foods and scarring their skin in order to accentuate their masculinity.

Not sure if pic is actually Sambia.
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>>1005797
Looks moche. especially the hat
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>>997338
looks like a Forcefield promotional photo
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>>998694
THE GUN IS GOOD THE PENIS IS EVIL
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>>1004844
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>>1004844
>>1007673
Holy shit, they look so alike...
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>>1002674
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>>1000537
Zardos was a good film
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>>1008428
623451
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>>1008447
No way, 2 is way hotter than 6.
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>>997449
2,3,1
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The Chiribaya were a culture that lived in southern Peru from the 10th century and ended in 1350 when it was annexed to the Inca empire, they were expert breeders of south american camelids (their breeds became extinct with the passage of time by the lack of eugenics in the viceroyalty).
What is noteworthy about them is that they were diehard lover of their sheepdogs, which needed for the large populations of llamas and alpacas that they had. In fact their dogs were loved so much that they were buried like people, with their most cherished possessions in life (toys) and their favorite foods.
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>>997036
Chachapoyas
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>>1010433
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>>1009163
qt dog
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>>1000654
Because that's what average humans do when they see a UFO.
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>>1010731
>Texas unleashes intergalactic war because some redneck shot an extraterrestrial
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>>1010735
No, but it perpetuates conspiracy theories and idiocy on the internet.
>imagine that
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>>1010747
>Implying what i said is credible. At all.
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This seems like a great place to ask
I'm looking for porn where a civilized person fucks a tribal women
Idk why but the idea gets me off
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>>1010869


It's a sense of power.

Think of it, you're from a strange land, you consider yourself superior in civilization, and you're penetrating for pleasure the concept of a foreign woman of 'lesser culture'.

It's like a sadist just made contextual.

That is to say, unless you also fantasize about falling in love and the qualities that make primitive-technology women ideal? Then there may be some actual explaining to do, rather than just talk about fetishes and philia.
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>>1004844
Expect us
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>>1005688
Anon most of us here aren't the most dashing fellows
If he is happy leave him alone bully
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>>1010895
Nigger I just want to see some qt tribal woman getting fucked
If you can't help fuck off
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>>1010869
Theres a jav of a woman fucking some africans. It starts out kinda documentary like and she learns a bit about the people first.
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>>1011008
Are you talking about the one with the jap
Seen it
Not really what I'm looking for
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>>1002530
Or Vic and Bob's Big Night Out on Tour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-J-cSnhkkI
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>>1011065
Sorry man I can't help you there. I mean theres lots of amateur of guatemalan mayan women. They're not tribal, but still native usually in their traditional clothes.
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>>1001609
>Baining I'm British Empire.
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>>997338
These look like Internet Creepypasta character, I love this thread...
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>>1001609
I dunno, man; they seem like an alright bunch
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>>1000622
they have contact with the illegal loogers and miners, though.
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>>1011008
I'm ashamed I know exactly which one you are talking about. The girl is Ai Uehara
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>>1010895
Zizek, please.
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>>1012136
Tell me about the Baining. Why do they wear the mask?
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>>1000573
>Spirits
>Creation myth
>Creator god
>Shaman

Sounds like every mythology bro.
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>>1016268
The normal thing for people in the stage of development of the selk'nam would have been animism. Instead they felt the need to explain the world around them in very refined terms. It's actually quite mysterious how they got there in the first place. You have to remember: the selk'nam were just humble hunter gatherers, not like the mapuches for instance, who were sedentary, but with a very narrow minded view of the trascendental world: they just worshiped ancestors; they didn't even have gods.
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>>1008447
Idiot, second from the left is clearly the hottest one. She has a weird expression, but you can tell.
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>>1016304
That's really interesting, I wasn't getting that, thanks.
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>>1016326
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