Was USRR greatest empire ever existed ?
>>978193
Any Empire that bases its economy on one single recourse ((oil)) deserves to die.
>>978202
delet this
>>978202
nice wstern propagnda
>>978202
you will never immigrate to tsarist Russia and become the great statesman who saves it
>>978244
>you will never become a benevolent dictator who leads his country to a golden age
>you will never uplift your countrymen to greatness and build an educated citizenry who need not be cowed by corporate interests or demagogues
>you will never reject rampant capitalism and stagnant socialist policy alike in favor of a third path which espouses the virtues of the material and spiritual alike
>you will never pass off the reins to a worthy heir, chosen by you with the blessing of your people
>you will never set the foundations to gradually cede power to the educated populace who might one day master their own destiny
>you will never go down in history as a controversial figure, a tyrant and beloved ruler both as you bring your own nation and the nations around you to prosperity untold
>tfw your ambitions are too great for your feeble hands
>tfw you will always be mediocre
A curse on God for giving a sheep like me the dreams of a lion.
>>978193
wow so truu
>>978202
>the best writers were either killed in duels or exiled
russia has always failed in the cultural department they just don't get it.
>>978244
;.;7 Tsarist Russia, so much potential lost...
F
>>978193
No, it was pretty good for a while though.
>>978193
I can already imagine some sweaty smelly vatnik with his abibas trackpants making this on MS Paint on his 10 year old PC.
>less than 100 years
>greatest
nah
>>978193
I would say the Roman Empire was the best as far as longevity goes. The USSR did accomplish a lot but they got cucked by the moon landing and the fact that Communism will never work. They were better off with their monarchy. I'd say the British Empire had a bigger influence as an Empire. They set up the precedent of English being the choice international language on top of cucking countless colonies.
>IMO, no
>>978193
The fact that a society that claimed to be communist can be described as an empire probably tells you all you need to know.
The average Soviet had less bread than an Irishman had potatoes during the famine.
>>978193
I was born in Yugoslavia in 1990, as a kid I remember people destroying socialist images, structures, and monuments. Leaving when I was 6, I still remember the post-socialist area I grew up in and the turmoil it descended to. Of coarse, Yugoslavian socialism ended due to war, but I know that when a socialist society convert to a market society it gets difficult fo people to adapt. I hear Soviet people give mixed opinions, a Lithuanian co-worker said it was the most awful nation to exist, and an Azerbaijani, of whom's blog I read once, called it one of the best. I say the USSR's advantages was that it bought ethnicities together somewhat peacefully, something Yugoslavia failed to do. It tried many new ideas and changed the way many people lived. I mean, the USSR killed millions of innocent people,, but a majority of countries with that power, and many that were smaller than it, have. Really, the only reasons for the counter-cultured 4chan hates it is because edgy teens love it and Nazis fought them. I mean, do you really think the most pro-nazi site outside of literal stormfront forums really give a shit about human rights?
TL;DR, no, but it's not as bad as people say it is.
>>978202
Goddammit
>>978264
Sounds like Peter the Great desu
>>980134
I don't really dislike the Soviet Union, I love Russia too much to do so. What I do despise is communism and how it destroyed Imperial Russia. I know Imperial Russia needed to change, but ffs communism was not the answer.
>>980154
I understand, I think if the DOMA was improved, or if Russia became a UK-like monarchy it might be slightly more cultured and nice. I never been to Russia though so I don't really care.
The most majestic empire to ever exist desu. Eu te amo, sweet prince.
>>978202
top kek
If it was so great then why did it lose?
>>980202
Incompetent leaders
>>978264
TL;DR:
>tfw you will never be Tito
We southern Slavs didn't deserve him.
It's hilarious watching all of you defend Tsarist Russia, an empire known for being poor, corrupt, ass-backward, inefficient, violent, and repressive even under it's best monarchs, or the Soviet Union, an empire known for genocide, cultural irrelevance, and destroying the economic growth of half of Europe.
>>980670
>an empire known for being poor, corrupt, ass-backward, inefficient, violent, and repressive even under it's best monarchs
That's Russia and russian mentality as a whole though.
>>980659
>Tito
>pass off the reins to a worthy heir, chosen by you with the blessing of your people
>set the foundations to gradually cede power to the educated populace who might one day master their own destiny
Fatal flaws in your tl;dr laddo
>>980670
>an empire known for
Some people like to think for themselves.
Stalin
>bolstered an otherwise backward nation at the cost of millions of lives
Khrushchev
>continued economic and scientific progress while eliminating much of Stalin's personality cult
Brezhnev
>age of stagnation, literally nothing of worth was happening, russians remember his years of rule for the movies and shows that were airing at the time of his reign
Andropov/Chernenko
>literal zombies
Gorbavhev
>the perestroika enforced a cargo cult upon the average russian in which he believed that anything american or western was superior to anything russian produced, be it shitty Rambo movies or second-hand tracksuits, and the glasnost popularized the belief that life in the Soviet Union was not as spotless as it seemed to be and that chernukha was the norm among the russian common class, eventually dissolve the Union altogether
Brezhnev was the beginning of the fall of the Soviet Union.
>>980154
The saddest thing is that commies destroyed so many Russian architecture and build those ugly commie blocks((
where are proofs americans i demand proofs
>>980834
Khrushchev was the beginning of the fall.
He abandoned the "dictatorship of the proletariat," which is a core tenet of Marxism.
Revisionism always leads to failure.
>>978193
FUCKING NAZBOLS GET OUT YOU AREN'T EVEN REAL COMMUNISTS
>>978244
The commies would kill you if you get too close to success, like they did to Stolypin.
>>978202
*sniff*
>>981091
Stolypin was killed by an anarchist on Okhranka's payroll
>all this MUH RUSSIAN EMPIRE
>MUH CULTURE
>GORILLION REPRESSED
>GOMMIEBLOCKS
>FAMINE
Oh, those western stereotypes.
>>978193
no... not at all.
>ITT
>>981218
But where's the meme? Russians hate socialism/communism.
>>981216
"Innocents", whatever you say.
>>978193
>>981220
>Russians hate socialism/communism
Are you fucking memeing me?
>>981220
They don't. Russian public opinion is too complex and differs from one man to another.
Hated towards soviet period is common for mass-culture since the later half of the 80s and until now with little exceptions such as WW2 and soviet space program.
>>981226
>300
>didn't even exist for a full century
>everyone lived like shit
>was based on the incoherent ramblings of a filthy german
>was the exact opposite of what he advocated for
>greatest empire ever existed
good bait
/thread
>>978193
Too bad in a conventional war the USSR would have been absolutely annihilated.
>>981226
>Dat 560
>>981236
Not like most of those are government figures who ruled their people in an undemocratic and authoritarian way...
Totally was capitallism guys I mean the Shah was just trying to sell his new TVs rather than maintain his power....
>it's a "I wished I lived in another time period that I think is great because I only know good, cherry picked examples from it" thread
shitty bait
>>981260
Other way around Americaboo.
>>978202
Reality check incoming.
Imperial equivalent of the Soviet apartment block would be picrelated. Not cherry-picked palaces and temples.
And I'm not sure what Basil's Cathedral has to do with anything. It was built before Romanov's dynasty - in 16th centurty.
>>981091
> commies
Commies explicitly eschewed political assassinations as a tool.
"We will use the other way" (c) Lenin
>>981220
> Russians hate socialism/communism.
Majority supports it.
In fact, since the early 90s support for socialism has been steadily rising despite all efforts by the government (modern Russian history books for children are something like 90% Cold War anti-Soviet propaganda).
>>981260
you actually believe this?
>>978193
>Didn't even last a Century.
>>981250
saved
>>978193
I don't know why you're asking, you seem to have your mind made up. Any argument from us will fall on deaf ears, and you'll just use confirmation bias to support your views anyway.
>>982043
Political assassinations aka "Individual terror" was the part of bolshevik tactics, yet it never was the main way of doing things.
Individual terror was popular among Social-Revolutionaires (ПCP, esers), who were the non-marxist socialists developed from Narodnaya Volya and similar movements.
>>980041
How there are still russians now?
All descendants of high communist party leaders?
>>982365
> was the part of bolshevik tactics
For example?
>>981236
>1st was some guy on the outskirts of civilization doing heinous shit
>2nd was a fucking monarch
>the shah was a despotic monarch
>le ebin helicopter ride man was never elected and was a ruthless military right-wing dictator
Wew lad, there's so much strawmanning in that pic I could literally feed a herd of cows with the hay
>>982403
Bolsheviks have been killing members of Black Hundreds and certain officials.
Also there were some acts of cooperation between bolsheviks and Battle Group of esers, for example 16-pound bombs made by Krasin have been used by maximalist esers during the assassination attempt on Stolypin in 1906.
But, again, individual terror wasn't the real way of doing things. Bolsheviks wanted a revolution, and revolution cannot be achieved by killing certain individuals.
>>982426
>Bolsheviks wanted a revolution, and revolution cannot be achieved by killing certain individuals
>>982426
>>982426
Do I need to go on?
>>982427
What has he to do with russian revolution and bolsheviks?
That's it, nothing.
>>982434
My God you're fucking retarded
>>978193
And who's that guy?
>>982436
>posts an unrelated person
>thinks that this should mean something to the discussion about russian revolutionary terrorists
>calls other people retarded
>>982426
> Bolsheviks have been killing members of Black Hundreds and certain officials.
Specific examples, please.
>>982442
>and revolution cannot be achieved by killing certain individuals
>KILLING
>CERTAIN
>INDIVIDUALS
can you even into basic comprehension you mong?
>USSR existed for not even 100 years
>Glorious, epic and completely based SPQR existed for several hundred years
>Not to mention fucking based Byzantium which existed for many hundred years more
C'mon OP get real
>>982452
Badassery is not measured in years.
>>982449
Revolution never starts because one man got killed. Revolution has political and economical roots. The death can cause the unrest, which may grow into the revolution, but it never would be a major reason.
>>982465
There must be kindling for a spark to catch flame
Yes indeed
>>982422
those are joke images, anon.
they're not meant to be serious.
>>981859
Capitalism is simply an economic system
>>980041
Because it's a fucking famine in a poorly weathered country?
>>978202
So much true
>>980041
I bet these people really enjoyed being the first nation in space
>>983218
> being this salty
