Within a 1000 to 10000 years-from-now range, what's the best idea of what our species will look like?
>>970386
the same as today
Ten thousand years? Probably not any different than we do now except we'd all be brown.
>>970398
>u angry manlets jelly?
Probably the same but with tanned or brown-ish skin. One can assume that through ten thousand years of increased interracial breeding that we might all be a variation on a single color by then.
>>970386
This topic is highly depending from actions of Earth mankind.
>>970398
Looks like Nosferatu, Igor, and Batboy mixed together.
>>970386
In 10000 years the average brain size might be measurably (but not noticeably on casual observation) slightly larger. We haven't changed much in the past 200,000 from a physical perspective outside of a slightly larger brain case.
Unless we send ourselves back to the stone age we'll hit the transhumanism mark well before we'd change much from natural evolution. And if we go down that road it's pure speculation what our species will be like.
>>970463
Why not smaller? Major part of jobs do not require a heavy brain work. Also at this planet Evolution live together with Devolution.
We'll all look like 8-10/10 anime girls.
>All these niggers in this thread underestimating genetic engineering
>>970386
Depends whether we start colonizing other planets or not. If we all stay on Earth we'll look pretty similar, except taller and most people will be varying shades of brown, with very small populations of pale/ very dark skinned people.
If we branch out onto other planets you'll see different variations of humanity, even though the difference will be most pronounced in language/ culture you will obviously get physical differences as well, which are hard to predict in that case.
>>970490
>Devolution
Are we not men?
after the Singularity in 2040
>>970386
So in the future everyone will look like a hairless david bowie?
>>970490
What the fuck are you talking about? For most of human history we were hunter-gatherers which requires much less brain-work than it takes to read, or do multiplication, fill out taxes, most things learned in basic education etc.
>>970498
Genetic Engineering will only be for the wealthy and powerful
>>970508
I'm actually perfectly fine with that.
natural selection for humans, is dead.
any change species wide will be deliberate action by man to change.
I can't wait to to become an immortal machine.
Freaky spider-like creatures due to the long-term effects of zero gravity
>>970490
>Why not smaller? Major part of jobs do not require a heavy brain work. Also at this planet Evolution live together with Devolution.
De-Evolution isn't a thing. If you evolve a smaller brain you're doing so because it increases your fitness.
And in answer to the "why not smaller part?" I would bet everything I owned it will be bigger. Once we became bipedal ~8 million years ago average brain size has always gone up in homonids. Pick any species and measure average cranial capacity over a noticeable span of time and that's the trend you'll see.
It doesn't matter if your job is easy, as long as a larger brain infers a fitness advantage it will be selected for.
>>970386
Whatever they want to
Who gives a shit?
The Rapture will happen long before then.
>>970534
Yeah I read that one short story too
>>970585
Kek
>humans
>surviving this century
on the off-chance we do, by 2100 we won't meet any of the criteria for being human
>>970424
>All races will blend
Nah.
It will become less, but thousand years are not enough time in order for humans tro let go of the concept of warring powerblogs.
Id expect china to stay chinese and brazil to stay hispanic for example.
Genetic engineering just to mark your servs would be another road.
>All offspring of migrated habitants of the Xagorn-alliance must be genetically equalized as fitting to the norm.
Also different planets would requiere differently engineered humans.
>>970503
We are Devo
>>970386
Neo Romanism!
>>970637
>>All races will blend
Thanks for the reply, but I never said anything of the sort. In fact, I didn't say anything at all. I simply posted a picture. Here's another one.
>>970398
Spooky
>>970553
>De-Evolution isn't a thing. If you evolve a smaller brain you're doing so because it increases your fitness.
While true that devolution is not actually a thing, saying "you evolved this trait for a specific reason" is almost as absurd. Evolution is a result of random mutation and natural selection, there is not really a reason we would evolve a certain way, it just so happens that certain mutations are better for survival than others.
>>970386
And to OPs question, evolution occurs more frequently when the general population of a species is small, and the human population is pretty big. Any major changes to the the human genome in the future (especially a future as near as 1,000 years) is highly unlikely. Unless there was a gigantic bottleneck event wiping out 99% of the population (which is also unlikely)
>>970585
We'll probably all have an eastern Mediterranean look
We won't look like anything because we'll be dead by then
>>970946
>While true that devolution is not actually a thing, saying "you evolved this trait for a specific reason" is almost as absurd. Evolution is a result of random mutation and natural selection, there is not really a reason we would evolve a certain way, it just so happens that certain mutations are better for survival than others.
ALL evolved traits are acquired because they increase fitness in some way or another. You're not wrong, you just misunderstood what I meant by "fitness." When I say fitness in this context I mean the strict biological definition of fitness.
The reason I said it like that exactly was to give a blanket explanation for why a smaller brain size might evolve, I wasn't positing the reason.
>>971002
Most mutations are neutral and don't have to be fitness-increasing, so long as they aren't impairing the organism. Also, human brains are indeed getting smaller, but size =! intelligence. They're becoming more dense and efficient over time.
>>970627
This.
Genetic engineering WILL be the future, and if not that then one of those robot fictions kurzweilians like to whack off over.
Personally, I like to think that our descendants will synthesize the most commanding qualities of man and beast!
>>971002
>ALL evolved traits are acquired because they increase fitness in some way or another.
This isn't true either, though. genetic mutations can be good, bad, or even neutral. And natural selection can sometimes be completely random. This means that evolution can produce inferior traits in a species and that it is not always something that helps them survive better.
>>970386
>History board
>"what will things be like in the future?"
>>970386
From a purely demographic standpoint, most people that far in the future will probably be some sort of dark-skinned Asian.
So like Indonesians, basically.
>>971193
This is a myth, it's like saying red-headed people are going to go extinct.
>>971059
Here's something interesting
https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2016/01/tweak-in-gene-expression-may-have-helped-humans-walk-upright.html
On a broader note, epiginetics are cool as fuck.
>>970941
HEY O'CONNEL, YOU'RE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE RIVER
>>970391
/thread
OP's time frame is insignificant.
>>970520
I would love to see you plan out a hunting strategy with nothing but a spear and a few friends
>>970386
Smaller jaws, weaker skeleton, no wisdom teeth, less robust skulls. More docile and domesticated, perlile papulae peniene are likely to go, alongside other archaic traits.
>>970386
They will all have autism and look like the yokes from The Time Machine.
Not Morlocks.
>>971669
No, Beni is on the wrong side of the river, but he does have all the camels
>all of these degenerate atheist cuck tippers that believe in evolution
>>972461
Only imbecile Americans believe in creationism.
>>972469
>I only believe in things that are "scientifically" proven
The very material of humans is determined solely by God, not by some fairy tail about monkeys. If atheists such as yourself were not so ignorant you would be able to understand that.
>>970386
Ashes and dust with AI ruling over the ruins
>>972490
Look, this sort of bait may have been entertaining the first week this board was on-line, but it's really just a lame way to shut down a thread.
I never said I didn't believe in a higher power; and according to you, the Catholic Church is actually not Catholic at all since it acknowledges evolution.
like anime
>>970398
Thats how brits already look like
>>970386
We will look however we want to look by then or no longer exist at all
>>970386
> Within a 1000 to 10000 years-from-now range,
> what our species will look like?
Very very dead.
Probability of mankind going extinct one way or another is extremely high. It's been only 2 centuries of proper technological progress, but we already got nukes, artificial plagues and killer droids.
By XXII century we'll get even better at killing ourselves, but I don't see mankind solving problems non-violently.
>>970508
>we all look like this
Lads
>>970520
>hurrdurrr i only look at raw numbers and can't understand relativity
We'll probably look like this since black men are going around cucking everyone.
There are fucking nignogs impregnating women in China and Japan for fuck's sake.
>>970424
>implying we'll evolve backwards
>>972544
>implying we won't find alien life and turns all our weapons against it instead
There's no Geneva convention for aliens.
>>971867
This analogy is lacking because both activities are difficult without learning said activity from previous generations.
I will say that hunting would be easier to stumble upon just by witnessing ambush tactics from wild animals like lions or dogs. Multiplication would be quite harder to find in the wild.
I'm hoping we'll have realized that race is just an artificial construct designed to segregate social castes and gone beyond it, but you never really know.
>>970490
Automatization of menial labour and the spread of education means bigger pressure for academic achievement.
There is more demand and competition for intellectually demanding tasks than ever before, really.
>>970974
Most people reproduce and marry within their own ethnic group.
>>971669
>tfw beni has all the camels
>>970673
>Neo
eww.
>>971264
>This is a myth
Not really. I mean most people now are kind of dark skinned asians. The only reason white people=normal is because the west and to a lesser extent the far east are currently the hubs of the world.
>>972461
>protestants posting crusaders
wew lad they would have murdered you.
>>972505
>evolving into a brit
The future is scary
>>970637
>brazil
>hispanic
i read somewhere that within 500 years humans can become immortal most organs can be replaced by machines and the only missing thing will be to find a way for the brain to communicate through a digital environment.
also there's a vid on youtube (ted talk) on which a guy goes on asking the most prominent scientists and professors about artificial intelligence and they all agree that within 50 years humans will create a intelligence way superior to the one we have.
>>970398
she succ
>>970398
>JUST
1000? exactly the same
10000? exactly the same
100000? almost exactly the same
1000000? nearly the same. Or extinct.
>>973171
don't you think technology will change us?
>>972461
Why are you posting pictures of Catholic knights? Don't you know Catholics weren't literalists? That science and religion went hand in hand?
>>970386
>>973091
>also there's a vid on youtube (ted talk) on which a guy goes on asking the most prominent scientists and professors about artificial intelligence and they all agree that within 50 years humans will create a intelligence way superior to the one we have.
THE ABOVE SENTENCE IS AMBIGUOUS •• BUT I ASSUME (HAS) MEANS (HAS AS PARTS)
I UNDERSTAND
>>970386
I got you coverd op
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>>973315
like this
>>973317
>>973321
>>973323
>>973302
sry. english is my 4th language. i'm not used to it yet.
>>971867
Grab torches, chase them till they're too tired to run away.
Aka. just like primitive people did it.
>>973324
got some more
>>973350
>>973353
>>973356
>>973340
They're supposed to be purpose-made psudo-humans created to fill niches in the ecosystem as various animals went extinct.
>>973357
>>973360
>>973364
>>972461
oh you poor clueless protestant
>>973360
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>>973396
>>973401
>>972544
people actually think like this?
large scale wars that were seen in the 20th century are a thing of the past, from here on out it'll be light conflicts usually with anarchistic groups like ISIS.
Economics keep everyone together tightly to the point that there's no reason to go to war.
What's more likely is that we'll have a great famine in the near future, and the population of the earth will half, which will help things in a way since there'll be a better focus on ensuring a constant food supply in the future.
Underground nuclear shelter dwelling Morlocks.
>>973323
>the boat people
FUCK OFF WE'RE FULL
I really think that long before the year 3000, genetic engineering will have brought significant changes to a significant part of humanity.
We can already do it with plants and animals in relatively simple ways. It won't take more than one or two centuries to be able to affect complex parts of our phenotype thrpugh genetic modifications.
These changes will be first directed at eliminating genetic diseases. Then at improving the children of those who can afford it, a group that will grow with time. They will be more intelligent, healthier, taller, stronger...ultimately prettier. China will lead on this way. Then the ethics comitees of the western world will be bypassed.
Then, maybe, after the rich have been improved, the poor will be improved in their ability to make the rich richer : they will be more docile, stronger, better at concentrating and staying awake for long periods, healthier,less prone to depression...
On the other hand, demographics will have a significant effect too. Africans will go from 1 to 4 billions over the century, europeans will be cut in half... They might disappear within a millenia. But that is hard to predict, things change. In any case, genetic engineering will preserve our phenotypes.
Overall, a surer tendency is for intelligence to restrain reproduction. In the long run, the average non- GMO human is certain to become dumber after reaching a peak due the spread of wealth and education in the currently poor areas pf the world.
But isn't natural selection dead in humankind?
Bald, fat, long handed or neckless, chances are you're going to reproduce unless you are a retarded autist.
Can evolution still occur?
>>973494
Are you being serious?
>>972919
OP is giving us 10000 years to speculate with. That could change.
>>970386
Apart from your time frame being insignificant, natural selection means that the ones surviving long enough to breed get to pass their genes on. Unless we tamper with our genes on purpose - in which case it's impossible to guess - or employs eugenics, which is a really stupid and unscientific idea, mankind will probably not look significantly different. Speculations like' we will probably have huge heads for our super brains and elongated fingers to press buttons' get it wrong since this won't happen unless big heads and long fingers start to become some sexual norm that's so strong that everyone else is just forced out of the sex market. Or something else of a similar effect happens. As long as people survive in their current form, they will generally keep their current form.
>>970386
何???????
>>972875
>it's a conspiracy
>>970386
Probably very similar. Our ideas of where racial lines are drawn will be different. There will be very few people who would look white by our standards due to low birth rates and the taboo of intermarriage being lifted.
America will be governed by a professional wrestler named President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho. We will water our crops with Gatorade.
>>970398
We're gonna look like Brazilians?
>>973171
IF MAN IS STILL ALIVE
IF WOMAN CAN SURVIVE
THEY MAY FIIIIIIIND!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izQB2-Kmiic
>>974305
Cheeseburger freedom man for president
>>974594
you all got evolution wrong holy shit
>>970398
my fucking coffee
One thing is sure, We will have bigger eyes. Women with big eyes are more likely to find a partner and then get a baby. Small eyed people btfo
>>972841
>implying the aliens won't see our nuclear missiles as low tech ammunition to block with a sophisticated solar defense system
>>972461
You mean like the catholic church? The one true church of Christ?
>>970386
Some will look happy in Kingdom of Heaven
others will look very sad in a lake of everlasting fire.
>>970386
Within a timeframe of 100 years we'll be able to virtually (possibly even physically) shapeshift into whatever the fuck we want. I can't imagine anything beyond that. So we're probably gonna hit an evolutionary endgame soon
>>970507
never 5get
>>973441
> people actually think like this?
Yes.
> large scale wars that were seen in the 20th century are a thing of the past, from here on out it'll be light conflicts usually with anarchistic groups like ISIS.
There will be peace for our time?
> Economics keep everyone together tightly to the point that there's no reason to go to war.
> What's more likely is that we'll have a great famine in the near future, and the population of the earth will half, which will help things in a way since there'll be a better focus on ensuring a constant food supply in the future.
So ... half of a planet starves to death, but that's "good economics" and no reason to go to war.
Yeah. Makes sense.
