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Arbeitslosigkeit in der ehemaligen DDR
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How did the German government curb unemployment after the fall of the DDR? Was it a big problem? Were there big government projects, or did the new, huge East German market just very quickly generate a ton of jobs? How many DDR industries became privatized after the fall?
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You're not gonna get much answers since this board hates Germany for some reason.

It feels like /his/ is populated by French/Poles still mad about getting their asses kicked.
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>>943980
It's a totally different regime from nazi Germany though...
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>>943996
>Literally no denazification had taken place
>Totally different
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>>943965
I know there was a tremendous amount of government spending involved. I believe the price tag of reunification has passed the €2 trillion mark.

I also know that the fact that Germany didn't have a minimum wage at the time made integrating the easterners a bit easier.
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>>944041
>Waahhhhh ebul Nazis!

When will this meme end?
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>>944054
When Germs stop polluting Europe.
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>>944067
You're either a

>self-hating white liberal
>shitskin
>nigger
Pick one.

Either way, your opinion is irrelevant.
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>>944081
>Starting and losing both world wars
>Letting Russia capture half of Europe
>Making nationalism a swear word
Fuck off Hans.
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>>943980
>It feels like /his/ is populated by French
It is, no joke. Hence all the Napoleon circlejerks everywhere.
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>>944081

>somebody mad
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>>944117
>Starting both world wars
A Serb started WW1.
Britain/France started WW2 by declaring war on Germany.

>letting Russia capture half of Europe
Yeah it's not like they fought them hard or anything, right?

It's not like most veteran German military were sent to the eastern front, right?

It's not like the Americans were helping the Russians, right?

>mational nationalism a swear word
You can blame the white-guilt leftists for that.

Wrong on all 3 points, try again.
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>>944133
>Britain started the war even though Germany invaded multiple states
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>>944143
Hitler did not want war with Britain, he was not interested. He wanted to keep Communism at bay.

France and Britain declared war on Germany.

Germany said "ok" and them steamrolled France.
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>>944180
He wanted to keep communism at bay so much he cooperated with Russians.
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>>944180
>>944187
Please take this argument to a thread about world war two
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>>944180
>hey yeah you just have to let an autistic kraut control everything you have
>why don't you like this?
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>>944194
>implying you can ever have a decent debate with a german
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>>943965

>east germany
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>>944199
>France declares war on Germany
>"OMG WHY ARE YOU INVADING ME!?"

Talk shit, get hit.
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>>944217
>Germany invades the states around it
>next up is france
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>>944180
>wanted to keep communism at bay
>so he ganged up with the communists to invade non-communist countries

The amount of mental gymnastics, you just can't make this shit up.
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>>944225
>Poland is next to France

Go back to school.
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>>944236
Did you forget the whole Germany invades USSR and mows down millions of commies part?
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>>944247
>ignores Czechoslovakia
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>>944252
Yeah but only after annexing B&M and skullfucking Poland with the Soviets.
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>>944252
Did you forget the 'agrees to partition non communist poland with the USSR'?
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>>943965
>How did the German government curb unemployment after the fall of the DDR?
They didn't.

Too this day Western Germans prefer the companion of Turks and Arabs to Eastern Germans.
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>>944260
>>944261
Poland was never a state so it deserved it.
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>>944277
>Poland was never a state

Kek are you serious? Also

>moving the goalposts
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>all the nazi apologists itt
/pol/ has completed its invasion
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>>944286
>Kek are you serious?
There was never a Polish state before 1918.

Poles themselves are just jews who want to feel special and destroy Germany at all cost.

Rosa Luxembourg who made Germany lose WW1 was a Polish-Jew(aka Jewish Aristocrat).

The man who lost the eastern front by himself - Erich von Manstein who's real, biological surname was von Lewinski was a Polish-Jew(Jewish Aristocrat) as well.
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>>944317
>biological surname
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>>944052
Do you know anything about the (inter)national repercussions of this spending? Widespread inflation?
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>>944293
Sod off Frenchcuck. I think nazis and /pol/acks are fucktarded cancer but you French trash that keeps whining about them in literally every thread are even worse.

>mimimimi PAUL get out PAUL mon dieu

Go surrender to Luxembourg or whatever the fuck. I don't want Frenchies on my /his/.
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>>944133
Jesus, Naziboos really are the worst dindus
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And so dies another thread.
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>>944338
I don't want krauts shitting up my /his/ either
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>>944317
Not even a pole, but you're embarrassing yourself, m8.
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>>944349
Do you think I'm a Kraut? Top lel, whine harder.
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>>944338
This.

I'm suspecting too that French people are the worst shitposters on /his/. We should ask Hiroyuki for flags to confirm this hypothesis.
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>>944283

except the pretext for invading Poland was the Gleiwitz incident, which was a false flag attack by the SS. It was even called fucking "Operation Himmler"
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>>944362
Go suck some muzzie bratwurst
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>>944317
>There was never a Polish state before 1918.
uhhh, anon, I have some news for you...
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>>944324
His real father was called von Lewinski but his real surname before the Jewish Commonwealth of Oppressing Ukrainians and Lithuanians broke down his ancestor's actual surname was Bronowitch or something like that(pure jew that is).

Mannsteins adopted him since mrs. Mannstestein(sister of mrs. Lewinski) was infertile and Lewinski's like typical subhumans they were(jew and racetraitor) had more children than they could afford so they gave him to them happily.
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>>944365
Yep. See >>944373
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>>944374
>>944359
see >>944392
>Jewish Commonwealth of Oppressing Ukrainians and Lithuanians
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>>944393
I shouldn't've expected much from the fagermans
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>>944392
He was a Kashubian protestant noble, not everyone with "Lewin" in their name is a Jew, especially not when it comes to this family.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewinski_%28Adelsgeschlecht%29
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>>944414
I'm Czech you traitorous little cuck.
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kek this one germaboo, when will you autists ever learn
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>>944419
lol hochu, ty seš ale retard.
Ukaž pár postů dědovi at ti dá pěstí a přestaneš mlet sračky.
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>>944419
řřřŘŘŘŘŘŘřřřřř
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>>944435
Co to meles ty kokote?
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Please guys this argument has nothing to do with what OP was asking. This is a thread about the unification of East Germany and West Germany, not about who started the war.
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>>944347
This is OP. I'm pretty upset at how this is turning out. There's not even really room to aim the discussion in the right direction...
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>>944444
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>>944444
>>>/pol/
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>>944446
>expecting to have a decent discussion with g*rmans
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>>944474
Fuck you
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>>944444
Quints don't lie
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>>944204
>bananas.jpg
What did he mean when he said this?
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>>946792
he is mocking east germans for having very limited access to bananas in the past. in the DDr the were seen as luxury and you had to stand in lines to get them.
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>>943965
I don't know too much about this topic, but the East German economy is still noticeably less well off, even 25 years later with the current huge economic growth rates of industrialized nations. It kind of gives you a picture of how bad it must have been.
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>>946792
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>>949816
Holy shit that's the funniest thing I've seen this week.
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/pol/ has completely derailed this board, unless better moderating is enforced to keep discussion on topic and banning trolling/or /pol/ shitposts, this board will always be /trash/ tier.
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>>949872
>using /pol/ memes to argue against /pol/

Classic. I bet you also call other posters cucks.
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>>949900
You don't argue against /pol/, you dismiss it and move on. Their idiotic fringe opinions are only allowed to exist on this website because permabanning all of them would require a bigger dedicated staff than 4chan has.

It's just kind of too bad that /pol/ themed shitposting has taken up so much space on this board. This thread would have done fine and probably generated some interesting discussion in the early days of /his/, but because there are more posters there's just too much shitposting about contentious topics and other threads that require more thought and time to prepare good responses to just get bumped off before anyone can really answer. You can only hope for better moderation or a major shift in 4chan (or just /int/ and /pol/) culture, both of which are kind of unlikely to happen.
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>>949980
Maybe you should go back to Ribbit if you can't handle 4chan posting.
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>>950026
>I can't handle 4chan posting
>I can't handle dispassionate nationalistic drivel repeated ad nauseam
I think I'm okay with that tbqh
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High quality thread
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>>944286
He is kinda correct.

By the 17th September (the day Soviets made their move) neither Germany, nor USSR recognized Poland as a state (as per Montevideo convention USA itself had signed).

This is why League of Nations did not recongize Soviets as aggressors in 1939 (before Winter War begun, obviously) or claimed USSR had invaded Poland - that basically made Poland's non-existance by 17th September internationally accepted fact.
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>>950081
You realize Poland existed for centuries before Austria, Russia and Prussia partitioned it right?

I'm not even a Polack but claiming Poland never existed before 1918 is some next level historical illiteracy.
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>>944365
Yes, but only brief and temporary to prove it. Flags would only make this board terrible.
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>>950086
I'm pointing out that "Poland was invaded by Soviets in 1939" is more of a point-of-view thing, rather than a hard fact. And answering this with "Poland didn't exist at the time" is perfectly justified.

I.e - he is _kinda_ correct. I'm not claiming his post is 100% correct.
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>>944329
"The Soviet Union not only gives up all of East
Germany, but has promised to remove all of its troops from there by 1994. But Germany's diplomatic
triumph was costly. Nearly $8 billion will be paid to the Soviet Union, money desperately needed to build
housing and defray the cost of returning troops the Soviet Union's economy just can't handle."
Seems they had to help the Soviets keep their shit together too.
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Economically the East German transition proved far more difficult than anyone thought at the time being. The mid 1990s were perhaps the worst years of the transition. Two and a half million workers lost industry jobs during the early years of the transition, approximately 60 per cent of those who had been employed in the industrial sector. During 1990-91, East German industry cut back work-time (Kurzarbeit) for 900,000 employees. Unemployment exceeded a million (after many hundreds of thousands had already moved West), and after 1992, early retirement at age 55 went into effect for perhaps 800,000; job retraining would occupy another 400,000: in effect a massive underemployment. All in all, unemployment reached 15 per cent and the total number of people who were either unemployed, early retired, employed in state-created jobs, or in retraining, totaled perhaps a third of the potentially employable – a total comparable to the great depression of the 1930s. Federal Labor Office statistics show unemployment rising to a million by mid 1991 and then continuing between 1.2 and 1.5 million through the l990s. By 1993 agriculture and forestry had fallen to one fourth its 1989 size, and industrial employment to one-third (out of almost half of labor force it comprised originally). A rise in construction employment of 50 per cent and of services by 40 per cent (although of a reduced overall work force) partially offset the losses. But the gains included youth entering the labor market while the losses counted a high proportion of the middle-aged, 50 years and older.
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>>943965
They didn´t and at some point introduced welfare which btw doesn´t count as unemployed here to scew the numbers.
Also this >>944266
It was before my time so I don´t really get the antagonism but economically it almost killed the west because eastern Germany produced with good ol german quality but at wages dictated by moskau. So the west enjoyed cheap labour right with practically no logistical costs and only a minor fee for the soviets.
Till this day the former eastern block is paid less on average and has lead to an exodus of doctors ect to the west (except in Berlin - worst wages in all of Germany and only teens come for the party scene). It is slowly changing but I wouldn´t bet on it reaching western averages any time soon.
Now factor in the depts the east was put in because of "planned" mismanagement.
>>944067
>polluting
Seriously?
>>944472
>bizzaro /pol/ strikes again
>>949980
/his/ is /pol/s lovechild and I hate to say it but history is a politically loaded subject and /pol/ is part of that if you like it or not. As moronic as most on /pol/ are the undenyable fact that their presence on other boards is a clear indicator that on their own any reasonable discussion is beeing shut down.
Or do you really think any would venture out of their echochamber if they felt they had a choice?
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>>950515
>>951111
Thanks for giving real replies. This is interesting stuff.
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