Ignoring capitalism and class based societies, how would a fascist and communist state work? By assuming the economic model of communism while having the nationalistic and complete loyalty to the state and it's leader?
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Proper communism doesn't have a state.
>>936662
And a proper economy doesn't exist without a state.
>>936580
Fascism runs on aggressive expansion until it no longer has other countries to make war against, or exhausts all man-power via war and genocide, whichever comes first.
There is no state in communism, people simply freely associate with each other without the economic having a place in that association.
You are imagining the most miserable and opressive society possible.
>>936669
Then you're literally just asking for social democracy+fascism. It'd be National Bolshevism btw
>>936684
you started it with the fallacious assumptions
>Ignoring capitalism and class based societies
that's never happened ever
these two things are not compatible
communism is the state without the government which is a class or at least the members of government, communism refers to the community which is the government, the commune of equals, the government is made redundant
fascism is just using a ideology to promote militarism, dictation from the need to exercise power and at the same time the need to exercise power is derived from the need for violence
one of them cannot exist if there are borders and the other must exist for borders
they are not compatible in their theoretical form
and so on
>>936675
>Fascism runs on aggressive expansion until it no longer has other countries to make war against, or exhausts all man-power via war and genocide, whichever comes first.
>There is no state in communism, people simply freely associate with each other without the economic having a place in that association.
t. eternal red
Communism can only be applied through coercion. Most people don't like it.
And that's not the definition of fascism.
>>936704
>Most people don't like it.
t. Murray "its cool 2 sell ur kids" Rothbard
>>936580
What you're describing is neither communism nor fascism, but Stalinist socialism.
>>936730
>If you're not a communist you're in favor of Austrian Economics
>Implying that most people not liking communism isn't true. As was proven by the massive exodus toward Eastern Bloc countries, amirite?
>>936765
>USSR
>Communist
>>936770
>>936795
By this logic, the Holy Roman Empire was
>Holy
>Roman
>An Empire
>>936770
>NOT MUH REAL COMMUNIST!
give it a rest commie fucks
>>936580
>le horsememe theory
consider suicide
>>936826
Would you consider a "capitalist" country without a free market capitalist? Then why should I consider a nation where the workers did not control the means of production communist?
>>936813
>Not buying commie bullshit makes me an American
Not. I'm not american and even if I was, what of what I said is not true? By the way, read a History book, there's anticommunism everywhere, not just in USA.
>>936580
>how would a fascist and communist state work?
>Benito Mussolini positively reviewed Stalinism as having transformed Soviet Bolshevism into a Slavic fascism
It's Stalinism. Basically, the state communism you're probably familiar with.
>1600s
>tell people about capitalism
>get laughed at as utopian
See you in the revolution, faggots
>>936998
wut
>>936998
>Implying capitalism wasn't developed before
>>937045
industry and wage labor in the 1600s? thanks
>>937045
kys
>>936580
Yeah the USSR worked pretty well under Stalin.
It was absolutely miserable but it worked.
>>936826
Not him, but I'm not even a communist and even I can tell the USSR was in no way shape or form a communist society.
>>937513
Well, sure, if your definition of "working" is "not in total anarchy."
