It really bothers me when people claim statistics on something or indeed any kind of detail on events of which we couldn't possibly know.
For example, people claim 50 million or so killed in china during the cultural revolution or what ever they called it, great leap forward. But this isn't the chinese number, and only the chinese have the number, so how did anyone arrive at 50 million, or indeed any number? How could they possibly give a number that isn't pure guess work and fiction?
Any other "how the fuck could you possibly know that" that is commonly accepted?
The amount of people that died form anti German massacres in Poland before world war 2, the total amount that has died from Capitalism and the amount of Muslims that died from the crusades.
Not commonly accepted really, but they got still got their fair share of believers.
>>914003
So 0, 0, and.... 0
#notallmuslims
>>914003
>Anti German Massacres in poland
never really heard of them
>Capitalism
That would be pretty hard to judge seeing as how what is even the cause of an ideology is impossible to begin with anyway.
>Crusades
There were body counts for many cases, but it's pretty hard to give an exact number but out of these it would probably be the easiest to give an estimate for that is based on body counts.
>>914003
>the amount of people that died because of capitalism
You mean the guy who jumped of a building because he lost his money gambling in Wall Street? What exactly are you talking about?
>>914003
>the total amount that has died from Capitalism
un-fucking-countable. we simply don't have enough zeroes.
>>913898
Its the great leap not the CR
>>914284
Interwar Poland was a brutal ethnic chauvinist. Not only Germans, Ruthenians and Ukrainians too.
>>914003
>died from capitalism
>>913898
In China's case, the numbers are literally made up. The Deng coup gave an intentionally exaggerated estimate of 16.5 million to get on America's good side, but that wasn't good enough and every year when Americans remember they're not supposed to like China they magically increase the number, currently around 70 million iirc. In reality the GLF ended famines and famine deaths in a country famous for both.
>>913898
>But this isn't the chinese number, and only the chinese have the number
Nah, not even the Chinese have the number. As for
> how did anyone arrive at 50 million, or indeed any number?
believe it or not there are people who commit their lives to studying these things as rigorously as possible and publishing their findings.
>>913898
Because the Chinese count only people who died in their 25.4/1000 rate. it doesn't count the cost of the collapse in birth rates.
So if the GLF didn't happen, there would be estimated 35 million more babies born than if it didn't happen. Thus 50 million people are missing from china today that would be there if the GLF didn't happen.
So 50 million victim count of the GLF.
>>917040
>Nah, not even the Chinese have the number. As for
Chinese do have the number.
25.4/1000
>>917471
They have a number.
>>917469
But all your numbers you just pulled out of your ass.
