Let's say Alexander didn't die when he did, and just kept going further and further East, eventually reaching the fractured China of the Warring States period.
Could he have conquered China?
>>885779
>Let's say Alexander didn't die when he did, and just kept going further and further East
he was already returning west so no.
Nah
No.
He died after his conquest had already stalled.
He died heading back west so I doubt it.
>>885779
His army had been away for literally 10 years. You didn't get "leave" in the ancient era. His soldiers were ready to stop on their own whether he liked it or not.
DUDE WHAT IF LMAO
>>885779
Alexander The "Great" was an imbecile and what he did was purely out of boredom. He might have had the strategic genius in him, but that was all outweighed by the fact that he was bat shit crazy and only stupid nationalists like him in Macedonia, and stupid nationalists in Greece as well. If someone says:
>m-muh hellenic cultural influence
That was a bi-product from his conquests and that was never in his plan. He just wanted to exact revenge on the Persians because m-muh daddy issues. He doesn't deserve the praise he gets by foreigners, you shouldn't even mention him. No, he couldn't have conquered China, he didn't even get past India.
t. Macedonian
>>885822
>modern macedonia
>has anything to do with ancient macedonia
lmfao bro
>>885830
exactly, people worship him here like a macedonian god, he doesn't even have anything to do with greece. just stupid nationalists like him and fight over him.
>>885822
Come on, he's going at least to be mentioned, at least because of these reasons:
a) *Technically* his "empire" was one of the biggest in # of square kilometers in the history.
b) It's not about Macedon, but about all of (Western) Europe, which identifies itself as the successor to the ancient Greek civilization. It was the first time when Egypt, Persia, etc. were conquered by them, wasn't it?
>>885833
philip of macedon->alexander the great->(skip 2300 years) kiro gligorov and modern fyrom
sounds legit
>Empire dies with the person who established it
>Hailed as the greatest conqueror ever
I hate Alexander meme.
>>885837
>a)
It isn't even that big, it isn't even an empire. Why put that point there when that point focuses on stuff that aren't at all true?
>b)
But why subdue an entire civilization for the sake of conquering and pure revenge? The fact that he didn't even try to seek a valid reason to attack the Persians is the main thing why everyone despises him here. Well, everyone with a sense of reason, that is.
>>885830
>lmfao bro
Considering the genetic continuity of the Balkan populations down from neolithic era, I'd assume that modern Macedonians are - to an extent and alongside their neighbors - descendants of Ancient Macedonians.
>>885854
>>885854
>Hailed as the greatest conqueror ever
yes,not the greatest emperor
>>885896
What's the point in conquering that vast land and not being able to manage it? That's called a psycho.
>>885881
Same with this guy, but with him we were told that he conquered for the lolz. Nobody said that he wanted to conquer the world so that he can establish a liberal society where everyone is equal no matter religion or heritage.
Please.
>>885822
How can you say he only wanted revenge when he tried to create that whole persia-greek hybrid society by marrying Persians and Greeks together?
>>885822
no one realy knows why he conquered the persian empire. Alot of the history regarding Alexander the great has been lost. Different writers have different interpretations in relation to his actions. what you have basically stated is just another theory. Some theorists have suggested that alexander done it out of a desire to see a united world. Also you called him an embecile and also a stretegic genius, that is quite contradictory. He built libraries, and improved the living standard of many areas he conquered. He often alot the same people to rule over the land he had conquered - what we do know. What we also know is that he done some awfully brutal things to certain areas he conquered out of anger and frustration. you have to also take into consideration that it was a different time back then.
>>885938
because when phillip died the only thing he wanted to do is revenge the death of his father, and went on a killing spree to bring the persians down on their knees.
>persia-greek hybrid
so that they wouldn't be the same people he conquered before, when you conquer you need to assimilate in order to say you conquered, if you didn't change the culture and people then you didn't do anything, just took a tour around the countryside.
a by-product of his conquests are those marriages you mentioned, that wasn't even in his plan.
>>885975
he didnt even like his father. his father tried to replace him with another son. some theorsits suggest that it was alexanders own mother that killed phillip in order for alexander the gain the throne. you speak as though the persians killed phillip. have you even studied alexander the great?
>>885975
>bullfuckingshit the post
>>885854
I don't know a single person who has claimed that Alexander was a great statesman or emperor.
He was a fantastic general. Politics? Not so much.
no his soldiers stopped the march in bactria for a reason, besides that wouldve been some bullshit because then you would have abunch of asians going over to greece today pretending that theyre owed something
>>885779
He was running on fumes by the time you got into Pakistan. You can only win battles if you have soldiers capable of fighting. The Indian Empires could field armies of hundreds of thousands of men, he might have won a few battles but he couldn't have conquered India, let alone China.
>>886013
you know india is further east than bactria right?
you know his army went into india right?
>>888126
THE TERRITORY NOW KNOWN AS "INDIA" IS NOT EQUIVALENT WITH THE TERRITORY THEN KNOWN AS "INDIA".
"INDIA", IN ALÉXANDROS' TIME, COMPRISED A LARGER ZONE WITH INDISTINCT BORDERS, AND SEVERAL SUBDIVISIONS, THE NAMES OF WHICH WERE VARIATIONS OF "INDIA".
ALÉXANDROS' "INDIA" WAS THE ZONE IMMEDIATELY WEST OF THE INDUS RIVER, WHICH IS NOW EASTERN IRAN/WESTERN PAKISTAN.
>>885870
Pella is in Greece lad
>>888514
Please kill yourself
>>888052
The sources put the Nanda empire at having around 200,000 infantry, 80,000 cavalry and 6000 elephants. But Nearchus claimed that shortly after the mutiny at Beas the Alexander's army swelled to 120,000, with the arrival of the last two years cohort of Macedonian troops. Plus the Nanda empire was highly unstable at the time, case in point Chandragupta Maurya kicked it over 10 years later.
I don't think further success in India is that far fetched, although as others have pointed out, by the time of his death he was focused on other goals.
No.
Alexandrian Greeks only operated in mild climates. They only played with mild people. They were inches close to total mutiny crossing a couple of sand dunes.
Compared to hardened northern nomadic horsemen, Greek foot soldiers were absolutely nothing.
>>885779
His army was on the verge of mutiny so, no probably not. Even his planned campaigns against the Arabs would have been too much. He should have taken time to consolidate his power so his empire didn't fracture the instant he died.
>>885779
>Let's say Alexander didn't die when he did, and just kept going further and further East, eventually reaching the fractured China of the Warring States period.
Well after the Indian debacle, Alexander had planned an Arabian expedition. Not sure why though.
>>885779
>Let's say Alexander didn't die when he did, and just kept going further and further East,
He was already returning to Babylon and was planning invasions of Italy and Arabia.
