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mitsuhide was alright, nobunaga though was not the romantic hero

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<--- This fuckin' frog lmao

Trotsky

>>867514
Tokugawa please.
Oda was a leader and a genius.
He defeated the Imagawa, took Kyoto and conquered Japan.
Mitsuhide on the other hand backstabbed Oda for no fucking reason.

>>867527
plenty of reasons
he might even asked him, not no reason, that's literally not possible

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>yfw you realize Ieyasu was the good guy

>>867530
Mitsuhide was an emotionally unstable faggot that plunged Japan into chaos because "muh honorru"

>>867541
kind of like brutus and caesar
no big deal

>>867558
Brutus at least did it because he thought he was fighting for the republic and that Caesar was a tyrant.
Mitsushite did it because Nobunaga insulted him

>>867565
or that he did it for the emperor and that oda was a usurper

>>867573
Please, he was merely an overambitious underling that dared to strike his master

>>867578
this speaks much about the "master"

>>867581
Nobunaga was undeniably evil, but he was a justified evil who attempted to unify Japan.
Killing him undid that, and sowed the seeds for further conflict

>>867589
you cannot say they are against chaos because it is from chaos that made them, they are chaos incarnate, in any case he tried but did not succeed, how he died though is relatively irrelevant

after he died obviously hideyoshi took over but when hideyoshi died the council decided to unite against tokugawa, it is not further conflict, this was just unfinished conflict since the power of the council was not proportional to the manpower or land power

there can only be one military ruler of japan