What single man in history can be summarized as the greatest individual threat to the Roman Empire?
>>863844
genghis khan.
Jesus
marx
Mehmed II
>>863844
I would say Hannibal, but when he was threatening Rome it was a Republic.
Maybe Shapur I, or Attila.
>>863844
I'm not gonna count mehmed because by then nothing was left
It's either Hannibal, that Sassanid King that heraclius defeated (Khosrau II I think), or the Arab caliph that sieged Constantinople.
>>863896
All good choices.
Shapur the Great humiliated three Roman Emperors, destroyed a lot of Roman towns and cities and even defaced a major symbolic city known as Caesara on purpose to spite the Romans.
Atilla nearly ended the Roman Empire in the West and Hannibal was the stuff of nightmares for the Romans even after they won the Second and Third Punic Wars as they wanted to hunt him down as a wanted man.
>>863906
Khosrau Parviz nearly ended the Byzantine Empir but his grandfather Khosrau Anushurivan was the one who won a bunch of wars and basically made attempts by prior Byzantine Emperors to reunite with the West ultimately futile.
So he gets kudos too.
>>863844
Me.
Obelix
>>863916
Khosrau was never going to take Constantinople or Africa. Holding Egypt was even pushing it.
>>864148
The Sassanids held North Africa, the entirety of Asia Minor, and the Levant for nearly 20 years. If Heraclius felt it was desperate enough for his people to offer to let Khosrau Pariz to keep his current holdings which was more then half the empire, I'd say he was compelled to believe the Persians could keep their gains.
>>864188
The Sassanids held Egypt, not North Africa. Heraclius wanted to abandon Constantinople for Carthage, but the people of Constantinople convinced him to stay. He considered the war lost, but obviously the people did not.
King Alaric
>>864224
The Sassanids held Egypt and were obligating the Ethiopians and Axum to accept their status as vassal states.
>>864295
I know, I just said they held Egypt.
>>863906
>or the Arab caliph that sieged Constantinople
He was a Turk, not Arab...
>>863866
Kek
>>864238
Not really, he was a major romeaboo and took their side against the huns
>>864339
>butthurt Byzaboo detected
>>864379
Byzantine isn't Rome, Turk.
>>864388
Not him or even a Turk but stop baiting, faggot.
>>864334
Constantinople was besieged more than once my friend. Some long before Turks were a thing.
Constantine.
>>864399
Wait, are you talking about Mu'awiyah or someone later?
>>864473
Fuck off.
>>864480
Fuck off.
>>864473
>Latin and Roman are synonyms
Why am I still replying
>>864480
No you fuck off. Plenty of scholars and academics hold the view the end of the predominance of Latin culture and language signified the end of the true "Roman" aspect of the Roman Empire with the Western Empire's fall at the end of the 5th century.
Get over it.
>>864491
Fuck off.
>>864473
>Not Latin, not Roman.
You're behaving like the elite in the earlier unified empire - as well as those in both east and west - didn't speak both Greek and Latin.
I know it's nice to create arbitrary historical boundaries instead of actually thinking but it doesn't work that way.
>>863844
Julius Caesar destroyed what little virtue was left in the republic
>>864514
Bullshit and nonsensical. There are many Roman "elites" who disdained and distruted Greeks and viewed them as both inferiors and culturally incompatible with the Roman way.
Don't spout that nonsense that all Roman leaders were Greekboos. Cierco for one is very evident of this so don't try to arbitrate that bullshit, mate.
>>863844
The whole Julio-Claudian dynasty
>>864473
>Not Latin, not Roman.
>>864527
>le Cierco was alone in his mentality meme
>>864571
>muh Cicero
>>864580
>muh shitposts
>>864635
>one guy hated the Greeks
>this means that every Latin speaker ever hated the Greeks and Roman empire somehow isn't Roman empire based on my arbitrary criteria, despite a fucking legal continuity
>>864646
>roman legality
>meaning anything
>>864653
It's nice that you can throw away anything that doesn't fit your convenient criteria.
>who cares what the actual people thought, what their laws were, what languages they were actually proficient in, or their actual blindingly obvious historical continuity, they're not Roman because I say so! m-m-muh latin.
>>863844
attila
>Fall of The Roman Empire...in the 15th Century: Crash Course World History #12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PszVWZNWVA
>>864772
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
>>864021
kek
>>864776
Excuse me, I'm not sure if you were aware. But they were
>NEITHER HOLY
>NOR ROMAN
>NOR AN EMPIRE
>>864713
That's not even the same poster, you tremendous butthurt mook.
I'd say either Hannibal or Brennus
Did anyone mention Shapur I? The dude is credited with the first capture of a Roman Emperor, the death of another, and the subjection of a third while forcing huge payments and taking a bunch of land from the Romans for decades.
Commodus
