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>betrays proletarian internationalism
>"muh socialism in one country"
>makes deals with Fascists
>persecutes ethnic minorities
>criminalizes homosexuality
>betrays workers' movements around the world in favor of western capitalists
>dissolves ComIntern
>encourages nationalism

How did such a shit-tier communist command the loyalties of so many socialists around the world?
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Post WWII indentarian politics. Bourgeois is obsessed with ideology and subscribing to one.
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>>792937
Because he seemed like the only viable option. Imagine you're a socialist during the Cold War; do you throw your support behind the largest state that claims to be advancing socialism or some exile who got icepicked in Mexico? It's the same opportunism that makes would-be socialists vote for the Democrats/Labour.
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Fuck off, Based Joe helped his country fight off the counterrevolutionary fascists who were attempting to dismember the socialist Soviet Union and exterminate the Slavs.
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>>792937


Communists were eating themselves in their ideological oneupsmanship/holiness spirals.

Stalin put a stop to it by killing everyone who was 'more left than thou' than him.

Thus he saved russia.
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I know fuckall about communism beyond my American education that simply said they were evil. What's a good single volume work that will cover everything I need to know in as unbiased a way as possible?
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>>792947
That makes sense up to a point, but when the USSR did shit like return a bunch of refugees to the Nazis as a gesture of goodwill or crush a popular revolution in Hungary it should have become obvious that the Soviet Union had turned into nothing more than another tyrannical state dressed up in Marxist rhetoric.
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>>792969
You're probably not going to find that.

Just don't read anything by Robert Conquest or Grover Furr, who are more or less mirror images of one another.
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>>792977
that did happen, hence why so many people broke from the USSR;s line after hungary and started referring to them as tankies. during the stalin era though they had pretty massive propaganda control that obscured a lot of the stuff that went down, so people frankly just didnt KNOW about how bad it could get
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>>792981
I'll be sure to avoid them.

how about pic related? I've heard of it before but I'm not sure what to think of it. It seems a bit ridiculous (starting around 1400 for fuedalistic stuff or whatever).
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>>792937
allegiance to "actually existing socialism". say you were a communist in the 20th century, pre sino-soviet split. capitalism and imperialism are falling everywhere, except for the imperialist states like europe, the us, and their lackeys like japan. people all over the world are throwing off the chains of capitalism thanks to the inspiration of marxism-leninism, soviet financing, etc. if you want to fight for the socialist future, you essentially have two options: go along with it, accepting that it's flawed, but hoping that you can work from within to change things since you're on the same team, or somehow try to fight both capitalism and stalinism at the same time, realistically making you impotent against both or a capitalist lackey since by hurting the ussr you necessarily help capitalism.

it's all a game.
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>>792962
Yeah, good thing he stopped those self-destructive policies by slaughtering half the army and much of his Party.

The Purges were not good for the Soviet Union, and they certainly didn't "save Russia."
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>>792937
realistically, how could the ussr have survived without adopting a policy of socialism in one country? spreading world revolution wasn't going to work with how feeble the state was following the civil war. had the german soviets succeeded, that's one thing. the world would be a different place and who knows if the success of the russian and german revolutions back to back could have inspired the french next, etc. but when there was nobody but them (and mongolia)? they had to consolidate and rapidly advance to survive. it was a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. stick to your ideals and die or betray your beliefs and try to fight another day
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>>792988
I must say, I think the Russians may be the best propagandists of all time. Reading about the espionage half of the Cold War is really interesting, especially looking at the pros and cons of Russian, British, and American intelligence policies.
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>>793019
I think the fact that Socialism in One Country became necessary was proof that the revolution failed. IMO, as soon as Europe failed to follow suit and rise up, the dream was dead. I guess I can't expect the Bolsheviks to have admitted this, but I think Soviet Russia had lost its window of opportunity by 1922 at the latest.
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>>792937
>betrays proletarian internationalism
>muh socialism in one country
As opposed to the old
>muh invasions of Poland, I swear , Stalin is responsible for its failure
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Because the Russians and their governments outside if Lenin will always be shit. If they had Trotsky lead the post-Lenin era, we would all be better off.
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>>793043
I completely agree.
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