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Unification of Italian peoples under one flag was a mistake, this is how Italy should look like.
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Maybe you should know that the division of those states was one of the reason of the collapse of italian economy in the second part of 1600...
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>No more Venetian Republic
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>>784841
What's the issue? This was how most of Europe looked once you looked inside a specific kingdom's borders. The only difference here was that there wasn't a unified border around the edge.
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>>784864
Yeah, it was all the division's fault. Not the french, spanish and austrian armies marauding around the countryside battling for supremacy.
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>>784841
Why what? Why was Italy divided?
Because unlike in France, England and Spain, no regional power managed to achieve supremacy. Mostly because they went full balance of power and coalized against anyone becoming strong enough to threaten said balance. They did it against Verona in the 14th century, against Milan in the 15th and against Venice in the 16th.
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>>784878
Well, technically, there was, if you exclude the Mezzogiorno. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Italy_(Holy_Roman_Empire)
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>>784923
But not really. Most of Italy was de jure independent of it by the time of op's map.
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>>784902
I've said that it's one of the problems. Anyway if your country is bigger you probably have a bigger army and you can fight against those powerfull States.
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>>784867

DESIGNATED
SHITTING
CANALS
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>>784867
Venice: Cancer of Europe
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>>784878
Really?
Did the Nobles of Spain, France, England And Moscowy wage wars at each other like the Italian states did?

>>785881
Venice: Liberators of constantinople
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>>785892
>Did the Nobles of Spain, France, England And Moscowy wage wars at each other like the Italian states did?
All the time like you wouldn't believe.
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>>784841
>Leltalians
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>>785892
Yeah. A fuckload. Like, all the time. War of the Roses ringing any bells? None? The heirs of Asturias? Burgundy?
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>>786688
The war of the roses wasn't just nobles fighting nobles, but nobles fighting each other about the state. It wasn't like the ruler of york went at war with the ruler of Nothinghamn, like in any war between Milan and Venedig, but different parties trying to get control of the state, or that's how I get it.
Never quite heard about the heirs of asturias thing, apart from that being some independent rulers that struggled.
All I know about Burgundy is that it was a duchy that succesfully managed to expand on the nearby states, collapsing when one of its rulers died without any heir.
Sorry if sinding like a utter fool.
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>>784867
>>785770
>>785881

>Fucking t*rckroaches hating Venetian republic...
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>>784849
>Unification of Italian peoples under one flag was a mistake

/thread
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>>784849
Meh
Italian people should have unified as a confederacy like the US
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>>784849
>Unification of Italian peoples under one flag was a mistake, this is how Italy should look like.
No, the little states were cancerous. Pic related is how Italy should be divided into.
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>>785892

>Venice: Liberators of constantinople

They bankrolled it. It was Franks who did the heavy lifting.
Venetians did what they did for ever more entrenched trading privileges in the Eastern Empire, the first of which they pilfered by 'mediating' between the Romans and the inbred masses under Robber Shitscard, who is the reason why Southern Italy is a pit compared to the North.

When the Turks came and ruined the Crusaders and mongoloid venetians, taking all their most important holdings, they were too feeble to stop them, lost all their privileges and slid into obscurity, before being conquered and justly exploited and provincialised by God's chosen people, the Austrians.
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Italy was center of a collapsed Empire and such things was always messy. See Germany without HRE for other example.
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Why didn't Italy become an empire in 1860?

Did they destroy the title of king of the two sicilies?
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>>789740
>They bankrolled it. It was Franks who did the heavy lifting.
No
>Venetians did what they did for ever more entrenched trading privileges in the Eastern Empire,
No
>the first of which they pilfered
No
>by 'mediating' between the Romans and the inbred masses under Robber Shitscard, who is the reason why Southern Italy is a pit compared to the North.
no
>When the Turks came and ruined the Crusaders and mongoloid venetians, taking all their most important holdings, they were too feeble to stop them
Yes
>lost all their privileges and slid into obscurity,
Not because of the turks
>before being conquered
No
>and justly exploited and provincialised by God's chosen people, the Austrians.
No
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>>789235
What was good about it?
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