Why do we know so little about this magnificient civilisation?
>>72936
Because they lost
They was like all other greek colonies in Italy, nothing special here
>>73209
what a fucking retard
>you will never discover the emperor Claudius' epic tome on Etruscan civilisation and language illuminating the lost people and their history
Roman cultural enrichment
>>72936
Rome pushed their shit in with no lube.
They had values that are very different from modern western values so they are intentionally ignored.
Theopompus of Chios, 4th cent. B.C.:
"Sharing wives is an established Etruscan custom. Etruscan women take particular care of their bodies and exercise often, sometimes along with the men, and sometimes by themselves. It is not a disgrace for them to be seen naked. They do not share their couches with their husbands but with the other men who happen to be present, and they propose toasts to anyone they choose. They are expert drinkers and very attractive.
The Etruscans raise all the children that are born, without knowing who their fathers are. The children live the way their parents live, often attending drinking parties and having sexual relations with all the women. It is no disgrace for them to do anything in the open, or to be seen having it done to them, for they consider it a native custom. So far from thinking it disgraceful, they say when someone ask to see the master of the house, and he is making love, that he is doing so-and-so, calling the indecent action by its name.
When they are having sexual relations either with courtesans or within their family, they do as follows: after they have stopped drinking and are about to go to bed, while the lamps are still lit, servants bring in courtesans, or boys, or sometimes even their wives. And when they have enjoyed these they bring in boys, and make love to them. They sometimes make love and have intercourse while people are watching them, but most of the time they put screens woven of sticks around the beds, and throw cloths on top of them.
They are keen on making love to women, but they particularly enjoy boys and youths. The youths in Etruria are very good-looking, because they live in luxury and keep their bodies smooth. In fact all the barbarians in the West use pitch to pull out and shave off the hair on their bodies."
>>73426
>They had values that are very different from modern western values so they are intentionally ignored.
I don't know, that sounds awfully like the values here.
>>73491
Except for the children part, right? That's sort of a big deal to westerners.
>>73540
Children are very sexualised in the west.
>>73209
They weren't Greek, though. They were non-Indo-Europeans.
>>73426
How do we know that Theopompus didn't just like writing bawdy stories?
keks.
>>73966
Not him, but if they weren't Indo-Europeans, what they were?
>>72936
Because they left few written texts before being wiped out culturally.
>>73426
Based, far better than homo greeks with their repressed sexuality and disgusting condition of women.
>>74408
Estruscan
>>74408
They originally migrated from anatolia.
filthy romans ruin everything desu
>>74916
genetic studies don't support that
although they did have some relatives in the region
>>73966
It was a compliment from Greeks
Greeks i.e. non-barbarians
>>74970
>genetic studies don't support that
Really? Any article you could provide me?
>>74916
False
>>74970
True, Etruscans and Anatolians drifted genetically well over 2000 years before the rise of the etruscan civilization:
The latest very large mtDNA study from 2013 indicates, based on maternally-inherited DNA, that the Etruscans were most likely a native population and most closely related to modern Southern Germans. The study extracted and typed the hypervariable region of mitochondrial DNA of 14 individuals buried in two Etruscan necropoleis, analyzing them along with previously analyzed Etruscan mtDNA, other ancient European mtDNA, modern and Medieval samples from Tuscany, and 4,910 modern individuals from the Mediterranean basin. The ancient (30 Etruscans, 27 Medieval Tuscans) and modern DNA sequences (370 Tuscans) were subjected to several million computer simulation runs, showing that the Etruscans can be considered ancestral to Medieval and, especially in the subpopulations from Casentino and Volterra, of modern Tuscans; modern populations from Murlo and Florence, by contrast, were shown not to continue the Medieval population. By further considering two Anatolian samples (35 and 123 individuals), it was estimated that the genetic links between Tuscany and Anatolia date back to at least 5,000 years ago, strongly suggesting that the Etruscan culture developed locally, and not as an immediate consequence of immigration from the Eastern Mediterranean shores. According to the study, ancient Etruscan mtDNA is closest among modern populations to Southern Germans and, following closely, a varied array of other Europeans and is not particularly close to Turkish or other Eastern Mediterranean populations. Among ancient populations, ancient Etruscans were found to be closest to Neolithic farmers from Central Europe. [5][37]
>>73624
Yeah, but only in terms of quasi-pornographic innuendo. Actual privilege of fucking kids is limited to the rich and powerful and is kept tight behind closed doors. One wonders if that is how the pederasty of the ancient world was conducted.
>>75016
>mtDNA
Y-DNA would be more interesting. Civilizations aren't usually founded by a migration of women...
>>74229
Theopompus was not the only one reporting Etruscans as such. Timaeus of Tauromenium :
"Among the Etruscans who were extravagantly luxurious, it is customary for the slave girls to wait on the men naked...."
Also did you notice the frescoes?
Excellent, I get to post my Etruscan art compilation.
>>75558
I don't get it
>>75568
> Tuscan raiders
It's a joke.
>>72936
We know enough. They were Greek-influenced, built their pillars out of wood instead of marble, made some nice gold jewelry and got rekt by the Romans in the end.
That jewelry is damn nice though
