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Best asexual people in history

Ill start and win
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>>60395
/thread
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>>60395
OK you start :^)
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Newton, Pascal, Kant.
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>>60508
I thought Newton was just a gay autist.
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>>60722

Voltaire called him a wizard basically
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>>60395
>best faggots in history
>best asexuals in history
Fucking faggots get out. Stop turning this board into shit.
Nobody gives a shit about who you think is the best faggot in history. We are here to discuss about history.
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>>61409
>Nobody gives a shit about having a discussion on historical figures, we are here to discuss history
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>>61409
Fuck off

Lawrence of Arabia may have been asexual or gay. Either way he's pretty underrated
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>>61471
>discussion
>post pic of your favourite historical faggot
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>>60395
Can you be asexual when that term is wholly modern and used primarily by attention whores?

That's like calling certain people in ancient Greece and Rome homosexual
I mean sure you can call them that but they didn't call themselves that
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>>60395
>a high level of discourse is expected
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Tesla being disgusted with women's behavior does not make him asexual. Don't project your mental illnesses on others.
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>>60395
Fredrick the Great is my pick

>>61491
There is no real evidence he was gay it all seems to point to him being an asexual masochist
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>>60765
underrated comment
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>>60765
Ok, I'll bite. Just how exactly does one assure that a man has never had sex before?
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>>62042
Someone please answer.
D-does my doctor know?
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>>60395
>asexual
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>>60395
Celibacy =/= Asexuality
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>>60395
Kindly fuck off with this bullshit.
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>>62042
>>62643
You're retarded enough to tell someone
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>>60395
Asexual is a weird term that probably doesn't fit that well most of the time when used. Can you prove Tesla didn't jerk off? Maybe he was just too neurotic to spend time with women? Maybe he smashed boipussi on the side or at least craved too. It's not good for discussion.

But since the thread is here, Robespierre. Danton said that "Robespierre simply can't fuck and money scares the hide off of him." So virtuous he made a poor wizard of himself.
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Erasmus of Rotterdam
Thomas Aquinas
Heraclitus
Meister Eckhart
Plato
Epicurus
Jesus
Augustine of Hippo
Giovanni Pico della Mirandola
Giordano Bruno
Georges Cuvier
Robert Boyle
Johannes Brahms
Roger Bacon
Ludwig van Beethoven
Johannes Brahms
Frederic Chopin
Nicolaus Copernicus
Eugène Delacroix
Henry Cavendish
Rene Descartes
Gustave Flaubert
Galileo Galilei
Vincent van Gogh
Thomas Hobbes
Horace
Plotinus
David Hume
Immanuel Kant
T. E. Lawrence
Gottfried Leibniz
John Locke
Michelangelo
Friedrich Nietzsche
Sir Isaac Newton
Blaise Pascal
Alexander Pope
Marcel Proust
Franz Schubert
Benedict de Spinoza
Arthur Schopenhauer
Herbert Spencer
Adam Smith
Nikola Tesla
Henry David Thoreau
Leonardo da Vinci
Voltaire
Ludwig Wittgenstein
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>>61896
Both of you anons are wrong
Tesla loved Pidgeons
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>>60395
>asexuality
nice meme
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>>62042
>are you sexually active
>no
>when was the last time you were sexually active
>never
>you're 83 years old
>correct
>o-oh
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Asexuality isn't real
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>>60722
this

he was at least an autist and maybe gay but he was not asexual
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Da Vinci disliked women, but that's all I know.
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>>65914
Da Vinci was gay not some nonexistent meme sexuality
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>>63697
Indeed
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Asexuality doesn't exist
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Schopenhauer after he decides to deny the will any sexual pleasure.
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No game =/= asexual

I'm looking at you, r9k
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>>66008
No, he wasn't faggot, he says in his personal notebook "The act of procreation and anything that has any relation to it is so disgusting ", not that he found women disgusting.
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could you imagine if these people actually had children. wouldn't that have been nice.
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>>63861
>Nietzsche
He fucked a whore and got syphilis
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Asexuality is a meme and doesn't exist, most of the people you're listing were either closet gays or just weren't really interested in sex (not expierencing the act of sex is not the same as being asexual, if it actually existed)
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>>70181
Damn, i wish i was that whore
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>>60395
>asexual
>real
hahaha.

OP, just because you can't get laid, does not mean "asexual" is a real thing.
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>>61409
And you guys complain about /pol/......
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>>69128
>act of procreation
>not involving a woman and a man
Seriously,
>>>/tumblr/
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no girls ?
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>>70646
would bang
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>>70557
>and anything that has any relation to it
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>>69128
That doesn't mean he was asexual
I spend most of my day jerking off to all kinds of sick shit but objectively sex is indeed pretty filthy
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>>61896
That has nothing to do with asexuality. He's believed to be asexual based on the fact that he never showed sexual interest in either gender
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>>65854
>>67082
>>70511
nice bait
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>>60395
>Best asexual people
how stupid. an asexual person is simply inferior to a sexual person. anyone who is alive and has children today is a more successful person than an asexual. the whole point of life is to procreate, the rest is just gaudy man-made accessories. anyone who does not procreate has failed as a human being. there is a starving nigger in africa right now who can't feed their family of 10 that is superior to any asexual.
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>>72374
>stating a fact is bait now
you guys are really easy to trigger
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>>72568
That's really a narrow and oversimplified view of humanity. I mean, sure, if you're going just by evolution or whatever, but doing nothing but having kids and dying, without doing anything to give life meaning, would be pretty pointless to most people. It's like a biological computer program running in an infinite loop, never ending or doing something. And the majority of people reproduce, babies are essentially a dime a dozen from a species or civilization standpoint. But if you take one or two people, and they become a Newton or Tesla instead of having kids, they'd add more to humanity than adding just one more kid among many.

>>72634
Sorry to burst your bubble, but you didn't state any facts.
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>>63861
>St Augustine
You realize he fucked about the entirety of the Roman world before becoming Christian right?
>Frederic Chopin
You mean the boytoy of a domineering Polish slut? He was a musical dildo.
>Rene Descartes
You mean the philosopher who was literally killed by sex?
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>>73144
It's a list of people who were never married, most fit the discussion some don't.
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I have the Works of Nikola Tesla. Is it worth a read for someone who doesn't know anything about technology?
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>>72934
they might add more but by natural standards they are objectively failures as human beings. it isn't an oversimplified view of humanity, humans are animals and everything else is a social construct. gender roles (not the hurr boys like blue trucks and girls like pink flowers one that retards cite) aren't social constructs, they are reflections of our animalistic nature. men are larger, more aggressive due to competition for mates and dominance, women are sheltered and more delicate due to centuries of being protected because of their inherent biological value being much higher than the males, nature is everything. getting a job, getting paid, music, fine dining, all of these things are social constructs. they aren't important to humanity on a fundamental level because we are animals and our purpose is to procreate and claw at life. this isn't a narrow or simplified view, this is the truth. people don't want to die and they have a biological imperative to leave a legacy in the form of a genetic heir.

failing to do this is failing life as a human. succeeding in other areas is window dressing.
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>>73249
You're choosing to focus exclusively on one criteria. There's nothing inherently GOOD about reproducing, there's no morality or value judgments in nature, it's only a matter of IS and not SHOULD. A society based exclusively on reproduction, and not using reproduction to facilitate other things (like quality of life) would fail. No one would want to live that kind of meaningless life. It would be like working in an assembly line, but where you're on the job 24/7.
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>>60395
I didn't know we were on fucking tumblr
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>>73401
tell that to monkeys and lions.
if that is the way you feel then why aren't you working on technology to make their existence meaningful?
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>>73401
also
>society
>not a social construct made of social constructs
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>>63861

triggered af
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>>73821
Whose existence? Monkeys and lions? I don't even know what you're trying to say at this point.

>>73844
Your point being?
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>>73249

>Procreation is the most important pillar

>Provider roles and protection roles are just social constructs

just kill yourself senpai, i can see you are a virgin by putting so much emphasize on sex
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Women are a different story and i won't claim to completely understand them as i'm not one. Men however who don't fuck women can easily fall into a few categories.

1. They are gay
2. They are too introverted, ugly, poor, generally unwilling or unable to fuck women. They still want to/wish they could and most likely jerk off all day anyway thinking about it.
3. There's something medically wrong with them, as in they can't get an erection or get horny, don't have a sex drive etc.

And that's it. There is no asexual that's fucking stupid. There's guys that like other guys, guys that wish they could fuck women but can't or won't, and there's guys that are broken.
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>>70181
That's no longer agreed on. It is now thought to be a hereditary stroke.
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>>74087
most of the people mentioned in this thread (for example schopenhauer) probably fall into category 2
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>>73983
monkeys and lions. why are you condemning them to a meaningless existence?
what is the point of vegetarian or vegan? the existence of cows and chickens and shit is meaningless. all life aside from humans is entirely meaningless because humans have colourful clothes, apple ipads and air-conditioning.

>>74034
>Provider roles and protection roles are just social constructs
i literally said that they weren't, and that music, employment etc are social constructs. i'm not putting any emphasis on sex, i am putting an emphasis on the fact that we are all animals and there are quite a few people today who are giving into their instincts while still maintaining a smug superiority because they are human and that is pretty fucking disgusting to be honest. it is fine to feel superior as a human but at least fucking act like one.
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>>72934
>Sorry to burst your bubble, but you didn't state any facts.
sorry to burst your bubble but asexuality is made up by special snowflakes and is literally a tumblr-tier concept
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>>74087

Most people would love to have a harem of girls to fuck every day at leisure

The problem is that it's a fucking pain in the ass to have a woman and mantain enough interest (by game, providing support or money, or mantaining looks) to be able to fuck her

And in contemporary times it's so much fucking worse unless you live in some poor shitty af city.

I can get woman on tinder or real life, but it's a pain in the ass to go through two dates to get sex and then mantaining it to be able to get more of it. Most bitches in university are entitled bitches so it's worse now than ever. I have got more sex from Tinder rather than my uni it's a fucking joke, I prefer buying prostitutes nowadays and crying to my dog when i need emotional support desu

Also sex get diminishing returns so fucking fast unless you live next to the woman and basically it's your bitch and slave
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>>74166
also
>inb4 muh /pol/
The fact that I disagree with this kind of made up nonsense doesn't mean I'm from /pol/, if you want everyone to agree with you on this then go to tumblr
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>>74087
I'm an asexual guy, and while I won't claim that I'm not "broken" (though that's really a subjective thing anyway desu) I do have a sex drive but I have no desire for sex itself. It simply does nothing for me in terms of arousal. Genitals of both sexes are actually a turn-off for me, it's really the outward appearance of women (i.e. how they appear in public, completely PG stuff) that I'm attracted to.
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>>74219
>Genitals of both sexes are actually a turn-off for me
the majority of people think genitals look disgusting, this doesn't make you special in any way
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>>65854
Asexuality means you can watch any kind of porn involving people and not feel anything, if somebody passes that test they are asexual in my mind, people try to tell me im asexual because im not interested in women or men, but I'm sexually attracted to women, therefore I'm str8, thats what being asexual is in my mind anyway

>>60395
Also wasn't Telsa like one of the most desirable bachelors in New York at one point?
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>>74166
As an asexual person, I'd like to see some evidence of that. Just because something is talked about on Tumblr doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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You all realize most of these "asexual" guys were probably just gay and didn't want to come out in a time where that might fuck their shit up right?
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>>74142

What you call "natural standards" were just the ambient we lived off for centuries

nowadays our ambient is a complete social construct, but it's our ambient, so it's stupid as fuck to use another ambient as the basis for values in our new ambient. You just adapt to whatever environment you have in, and nowadays you can do whatever you want if you can provide yourself. It's useless, vain and stupid to cripple yourself emotionally just because you have erectile dysfunction or another thing that prevents you from having sex. There are many virtues apart from fucking like a god desu
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>>74198
wtf. if a relationship isn't a plus in your life, you are doing it wrong.
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>>74276
>Just because something is talked about on Tumblr doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
they are the inventors of the famous "kin"-community where people basically claim to be planets or dragons stuck in human bodies so I hope you don't actually take that site seriously. People were, as a species, programmed to have sex, saying you don't have any interest in sex is like saying you don't have any interest in breathing or eating.
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>>74245
People might find them disgusting in an "aesthetic" sense, but they're still able to be aroused by them.

>>74247
I see sexuality as being defined by attraction, who you want to have sex with, so not desiring sex with anyone would make me asexual, at least functionally. If I want to be specific I'd say I'm somewhere on the border between hetero and asexuality, these categories aren't a perfect fit for everyone anyway and I'd rather leave it at just four than make up a Tumblr sexuality for every little preference or difference in attraction.
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You know, if you want to be a special snowflake and believe in these kind of delusions, go ahead but just keep historical figures out of it since most of them would probably agree on how retarded it sounds when they'd hear it. Most of the people listed in this thread were either gays who didn't want to "come out" or people who were just not really interested in sex or women (no, that doesn't mean they had no sexual drive at all).
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>>74287
>our ambient has changed so you can't judge whether or not an organism is successful or not based on whether or not it reproduces
who said anything about being crippled emotionally? you can exist without reproducing, you are going to die and all of the genetic heritage that your ancestors spent tens of thousands of years refining will be lost to the aether but you'll still exist. even if you manage to use science to pass your genes on, it doesn't change the fact that you are a genetic dead end if you are asexual. same goes for homosexuality or being a tranny. you can still reproduce, but if nature told you any harder that you shouldn't then you'd have been born without reproductive organs.
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>>74359
I don't take Tumblr seriously at all, but that doesn't mean that anything discussed on Tumblr automatically doesn't exist, specifically if it's also discussed in more reasonable places.

>People were, as a species, programmed to have sex, saying you don't have any interest in sex is like saying you don't have any interest in breathing or eating.
Asexuality is a defect from a purely biological viewpoint (unless one can find evidence saying it's beneficial in terms of kin selection or population control or something) but it's well known that defects do exist in humans. And asexuality is far less debilitating than lacking the instinct or ability to breathe and eat. And honestly, if I would die from not having sex I'd probably end up doing it, but that's simply not how things work. Apart from that, or someone paying me a very large sum of money to have sex, it's just not worth it to me.
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>>74424
>inb4 someone gets triggered and reports my post for being "/pol/"
If you didn't want to hear different opinions on this you shouldn't make a bait thread, these people never stated themselves they were asexual so therefore you can't just suddenly claim they were also some kind of special snowflake. History is based on facts, remember?
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>>74424
It's not the asexuals who derailed this thread into a "special snowflake" debate, it's the baiters who kept saying asexuality isn't real or whatever. I think it's certainly possible that some historical figures were asexual (which isn't the same as being totally without a sex drive, it basically means you're "gay towards women" and "straight towards men" assuming you're male) if there's no evidence of them being gay, but discussing the sexuality of historical figures is inevitably speculation in any case
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>>74501
You can't just suddenly go around and claim certain historical figures were asexual. They never stated themselves that they were so you don't have any sources or proof to make such claims.
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>>74501
>which isn't the same as being totally without a sex drive, it basically means you're "gay towards women" and "straight towards men" assuming you're male
so, a reproductive-retard then?
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>>74522
That's why I'm saying it's speculation. It's really no different than claiming they were gay.

>>74553
Gays can't reproduce either, genius.
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>>74579
This is a history board and history is based on facts, not on stupid theories that appeal to special snowflakes from tumblr. Next thing you know we'll be having a thread about how adolf hitler was a transsexual dragon-kin.
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>>74579
Also, this thread is nowhere near based on theories or speculation.
>best asexual people in history
OP is just assuming everyone who gets posted in this thread is asexual without any further proof of it.
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>>74579
>Gays can't reproduce either, genius.
i never said that gays weren't reproductive-retards either. stop putting words in my mouth.

all sexualities or tumblrisms are reproductive-retards other than heterosexuals. the term is synonymous with all alternate sexualities and gender identities.
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>>74652
What proof exists has already been offered - that they are not known to have any sexual relationships or any signs of being gay.

>>74655
In that case calling them "reproductive-retards" really added nothing of value to the conversation. You're literally stating the obvious.
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>>74701
>What proof exists has already been offered - that they are not known to have any sexual relationships or any signs of being gay.
>hurdur they didn't like sex so they must be one of our special snowflakes, we wuz kings n shit
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>>74701
i feel like we should petition to change sexuality to "reproductive-retardation" and heterosexual/straight to "none".
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>>74744
You're projecting. Also, by your reasoning it sounds like we should never speculate about anything. I've already explained that when we call a historical figure asexual/gay it's pretty much speculation.
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>>74814
History has to be based on at least SOME proof, the fact that some of those guys never had sex doesn't proof anything. If you want to talk about how all the great historical figures were actually asexual/pansexual/genderqueerkinsexual then I suggest you should try out tumblr.
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>>74886
Care to give me a source for that definition?
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>>74449
>And asexuality is far less debilitating than lacking the instinct or ability to breathe and eat.
From a reproduction standpoint, only conditionally. Unless you contribute somehow while alive to other people reproducing (by supplying food or whatever - but more than you're taking yourself) you're "better off" dead. Of course anyone arguing that reproduction = success has more pressing concerns.
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>>75036
My point is there's a pretty big difference (at least on the individual scale) between dying in a matter of days, and merely failing to reproduce.
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>>63861
>Jesus
Everyone knows Jesus fucked that whore Mary then moved to France.
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>>75067
Well I can see someone is from the "DaVinci Code" school of history...
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Charles George "Chinese" Gordon "of Khartoum".
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OP's mom
Oh wait
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>>65854
This
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