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>>589409
It was edstroyed by its french rivals, dumb shit

btw

>holy
>roman
>empire

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>>589420
>Implying the French monarchy didn't turn out to be a failed state
>implying the republic was identical with Royal France

Try again. Try harder.

Charlemagne's realm split into two pieces and the German part survived longer. Therefore: HRE>France

>>589431
>Therefore: HRE>France
Senpai, that's pretty bad logic to live by
Ottoman Empire beats HRE by that standard

>>589431
>nigger believes Charlemagne funded the HRE

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>>589441
Sure, as an empire it was more succesful. But when it comes to anything else, it would have a hard time being compared to the HRE or France.

But France still exist while the HRE does not

>>589466
Because we refer to it as France. Even today that isn't the exact term for the state that today is ruling over what can be geographically referred to as 'France'.

>>589480

Yeah it is, it's culturally continuous (not the same for the HRE).

>>589849
The traditions and cultures of HRE live in Germany as well.