Bow your head to the Sultan, infidel!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWyTTa_IkzY
The King of Kings, the great Osman, the ruler of three continents, the one who only bows to Allah himself. His lands are endless. His armies are inexhaustible. His Janisarries are fearless. His guns are without number. Bow your head to the Sultan! Or face the full strength of the one true faith.
>Be WASP American
>Study Ottomans
>Can't stand how big of pussies ISIS are compared with the Ottomans
>Feel nostalgic for a time 450+ years before I existed, when the West faced the real existential threat of a united Islamic front
Why aren't the Turks showing their dominance in the Levant and Iraq? Why doesn't the most modernized, historically significant Muslim state come out and crush these pretenders?
What say the Euros? Would you support a militarized Turkey? Would you support the Anatolians exerting more influence in the mid East?
Also post pictures of Ottoman stuff. Artwork, weapons, armor, architecture.
Ottoman music as well. The Ottoman marching band was one of the most important tools of the Sultan. With his awesome band and his mighty artillery, he could reduce the enemy defenses to the rubble.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w1bUpaOf7E
we'll never bow down to filthy t*rks
I've been a bit curious as to what would have happened had the Otter Men survived WWI and hung on long enough for them to take advantage of all that oil by the time WWII comes around
>>472671
>His Janisarries are fearless
Too fearless, as it turned out.
Anyone know what movie this is from? This looks like a badass depiction of the battle of Mohacs but I cannot translate Turkish.
Can anyone figure out what movie this is?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn5nJn--FC4
>>472759
Well I think the strength of the Ottoman Military system needs to be appreciated, because the only other oriental power to seriously challenge European military strength was Imperial Japan for a brief period after 1900.
Never again did an Eastern force present the same opposition in terms of military strength until the Japs, and that was far more brief than the influence the Sultan exerted over Europe.
The King of France was his ally. What other eastern power could ever achieve that?
>>472671
You sound autistic
>>472671
>Why aren't the Turks showing their dominance in the Levant and Iraq? Why doesn't the most modernized, historically significant Muslim state come out and crush these pretenders?
The reason Turkey managed to survive WWI without getting split up by European powers was Ataturk taking control, and then promising not to expand Turkish territory
As much as Erdogan rolls back what Ataturk established, he has yet to go full imperialist
That being said, Turkey is starting to "show dominance" by getting involved in the fighting in Syria/Iraq. Problem is, its a very complicated situation, and no one wants to show too much initiative lest it spirals into WW3. But I did hear that Turkey has sent troops into Iraq and routinely bombs PKK positions
>Would you support the Anatolians exerting more influence in the mid East?
I'm not a big fan of the current government, but I guess it's preferable to the Saudis exerting influence
Considering the shit that is the ME, Greece, and parts of the Balkans, I wouldn't mind a new Ottoman Empire
>>472744
Me too desu.
How would the balance of geopolitics have changed?
>>472850
>Ottomans
>Not basically european
>>472671
lolno
Our goverment is trying to get more authority in middle east for years but only things they caused are great destruction and migrations. God, even though we made so much shit against kurds they are stronger than ever now.
>>472726
Just convert to their religion apparently...
>>472671
>glorifying Ottoman boyfucker usurpers and not great Seljuk Beylerbey
>>472671
Why did Arabs betray the Ottomans?
Is Israel and being constantly in a state of war their divine punishment?
>>472671
I find Ottomans during their declining year strangely romantic and beautiful. Constantinople must have been comfy as fuck the years leading up to WW1.European sophistication , but the exotic decadent tendencies of the east. I'm romanticizing of course though..
>>472671
>>473349
Don't worry(or worry), Israel and Turkey will be best allies again.
>>472692
here op
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErgSS6DzaCk
>>473361
>poor Portugal
how come the ottomans continue dominating the mediterannean even after their defeat at lepanto?
>>473365
only once Israel pays a tribute to to the Sultan
>>473392
They controlled most of the lands of the eastern Mediterranean and North African coast . Also, based Barbosa and his Barbary pirates
>>472835
the guy on the bottom right makes me think that the armor used by Stannis' Cavalry i GOT was inspired by these guys
>>473346
>glorifying Ottoman boyfucker usurpers
>boyfucker
literally pulling shit out of your ass to ease your butthurt
>>473361
>but the exotic decadent tendencies of the east.
>decadent
>>473127
I thought it was because of Perfidious Albion betraying Greece.
>>473437
fucking little boys was a time honored tradition in the mediteranneans, even the ancient greeks did that
>>473438
I mean the general way orientalists depicted Ottoman society. Shisha, Hashish, and Harems and all that. BS of course, but maybe you get my drift.
>>473451
The English betrayed Greece only when it was clear Ataturk would win and probably take back all of their lands sooner or later. The only outside force that can be attributed to aiding the Turks was Bolshevik Russia
>>473451
nah, they still got a lot of armament and logistic support from the entente, its just that the british werent really keen on sending troops the ground again after ww1 just finished, especially after gallipoli. attaturk just marched his army towards towards brtish occupied constantinople with the british upper command telling the garrison there to not resist.
>>473454
>comparing ancient greeks in the BCs to 15th-20th century ottoman empire
>link: both had coasts on the mediterannean
>therefore ottoman pederasty is a phenomenon
Nice leap.
>>473471
I think I kinda get where you're coming from. A lot of societies probably had idealisations / romanticisations of what they probably saw as exotic foreign cultures. I'm sure there were euroboos in the middle east also.
bump for memes
>>472671
PAX OTTOMANA
>>472671
>bowing to a mere creation of Allah
No wonder Arabs rebelled.
>>472671
What went wrong?
>>473667
Abdulmecid, Mahmud II, and Abdulaziz were all arguably Euroboo Sultans
Then again, Westernization was all the rage when European powers could shell the fuck out of your coastal cities to make you accept trade agreements
>>474356
arm*nians
What would a neo ottoman middle east look like?
What would happen if the Turks advanced into Syria and took control? Would it end the civil war or just fuel further insurgency ?
>>473200
Wouldn't they get sacked of most of their territories by Mussolini? Italy moved several wars to the Empire during its last years
I want to learn more about the Ottomans. What are some good audiobooks to listen to about them during my commute?
>Sickman of Europe
>>475325
It would look like a ceremonial monarch in Turkey- with the present Turkish borders. Like the English Monarchy.
>>475385
>sickman of Europe
>of Europe
>Europe
Turkey can into EU!
>>475525
Not anymore.
>>475544
But why would hey join if they're not european? The capital is not even in Europe anymore.
>>473454
and its still a time honored tradition in your catholic/christian churches
>>475548
they still hold constantinople
>>473339
>tfw ataturk was albanian
>tfw your strongest warrior was albanian but even he decided you were cunts and went back to albania and you got btfo
>>474101
Was there really that much oil in the middle east compared to north america and russia?
>>475815
no for long
>>473437
>literally pulling shit out of your ass
>literally made unique art about ottoman tradition of fagfucking
you got your shit pushed in too ofter t*rk
>>475952
Err okaaaaaay
>>474101
They'd be well matched by Persia in terms of oil.
Also how would they acquire the knowhow on how to efficiently extract and use oil?
>>475988
lmao
>>472779
Now I'm curious too it looks pretty good in an old fahioned way
>>475325
I think there would much be less war in the middle east all muslims living under the rule of caliphet.
>What would happen if the Turks advanced into Syria and took control?
I don't think that's even possible. Invasions in that scale require enourmous budgets and only super powers can afford them.
>>475988
how did you manage it?
>>472671
as long as they purged arabs of their horrible familial tribalism and the incest marriage that goes with it
>>476019
post turk getting btfo part 1
are our former vassals being loud again
>>476056
cool, how about turk getting btfo part 3
>>476067
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Albulena
>>476067
You know anon you can jerk off to these things as much as you want but eventually albania got conquered and they became one of the most loyal subjects of the empire and even now a sizable part of the country is muslim.
>>476079
do you have turk geting btfo part 4
>>475960
t*rks, one of the rare nations that if exterminated absolutely noone would mind
>>476119
>>475960
>>475952
wow we sure got nuked by russia :^)
wow we sure got kicked out of the NATO :^)
wow we sure paid for shooting down the russian plane :^)
wow ortodogs sure got "Constantinople" back :^)
wow k*rds sure did form their own country :^)
wow manlet p*tin sure didn't pussy out against based tall man sultan erdoÄŸan :^)
wow kebab sure got removed :^)
wow we sure didn't totally get away with it like we always do :^)
wow /pol/ sure was right once again :^)
lmaoing @ ur life balkan cücks, keep sucking putin's dick and posting shitty maymays while all putin can actually do is stop buying our chickens lmao stay mad
>>476203
you do aware those three countries have all been a "turkish lapdog" through their history yes?
>>476139
>>476215
>>475976
butthurt t*rk
>>476203
>turkish lapdog
what? if they were, why would they declare independence from them, then?
>while Greeks, Serbs and Bulgarians all retain their religions and stand up against Turks
you're retarded if you believe albanians welcomed them with open arms, read my posts again
>ottoman
>balkan butthurt belt shits up the thread
everytime lmao
>>476243
>*ottoman threads
>>476225
>that facial expression
>lost it
t*rks, just
>
What say the Euros? Would you support a militarized Turkey? Would you support the Anatolians exerting more influence in the mid East?
I would support them going back to their traditional values, until they die out.
>>476262
>>476225
That values are look like euro values, but not enough incestum for modern euro values
>>476262
No, the Ottoman empire can go to hell. The middle-east only has room for a united and secular Arabia
>>476279
>euro values
>posting kazakhstanis
>>476287
>united, secular Arabia
lol, this'll never happen bruv
>>476287
The closest arabia got to that ideal was under the ottomans dude especially after modernization started taking off.
>>476291
They were did it for sake of homosexuals at Germany and euro values and they are from Ukraine.
>>476671
klitchkos are from kazahstan not ukraine, their parents are from ukraine, the brothers however are native kazahstanis
>>476686
Well, Klitchkos family from USSR, and live in Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic from 1985 year. Vitali Volodymyrovych Klitschko is a Ukrainian politician, Volodymyr Volodymyrovych Klychko is a Ukrainian professional boxer.
>>472850
>The King of France was his ally. What other eastern power could ever achieve that?
China?
shit thread, it should be abandoned
>>478557
shame we cant dscuss the ottoman on this board without butthurt balkanites jumping in showing their inferiority complex
>>472671
They just had to fuck everything up at the very end.
>Theodor Hertzl and his team of jews wants to talk with Abdulhamid.
>He accepts.
>They ask him to clear all of Ottoman Empire's debts + offer extra more money, in return they want to buy Palestine.
>He disagrees.
>Talks continue.
>He disagrees and say "My ancestors took those lands will blood, you can only take them from us with blood"
>He gets overthrown because Jews buy a pasha which I forgot his name.
>WW1 aka "mission:start Israel" happens.
>Shariff Hussein, betrays Ottomans and start working for Brits for 7m pounds(huge money back then).
>Middle East Ottoman colapses.
>Palestine is now British, soon to be their Jewish overlords'.
>Shariff Hussein will be the "king" of hijaz, and his successors will be the kings of Jordan.
>The only things left after Ottoman Empire is a small anatolian nation called Turkey, full chaotic jihadist shithole Middle East and literal who Balkan countries.
>tfw Abdulhamid lost his battle.
>tfw Ottoman Empire could still exist and would be really strong if he'd sell Palestine to Jews.
Abdulhamid was Ned Stark of Ottoman history. Too bad they both ended bad. Also he was BFF with wilhelm "fuck jews" ii.
Overall I really like Ottoman Empire even I'm not Turkish, they didn't contribute to science and art much, but they were good and proud warriors, good rulers and they kept middle east and islam bearable for centuries. They even removed Wahabbis from Arabia. Wish they were Christians tho.
>>472835
which osprey books is this one from?
their music is based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8Apli1TWfE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2flqFxo0y5Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2h0SMpdZR4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SymcEAeYGOw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lBJ3ZYy_XA
outta my way turk shits
>>481125
nope
>>481730
Red Pill: Mehmed got poisoned by his doctor, that's why he died early.
Guess his doctor's heritage. Yes you are right.
how did they go from a bumfuck anatolian tribe into one of europe great powers?
>>472671
Venice was here ottomans a shit
>>479735
he picked the wrong side thats all
>>483636
>local greeks were pretty ok with ottoman rule
how?
>>484477
Not him, but it's important to note that there weren't that many uprisings in southern portion of Balkans until the French Revolution which would be a supporting argument for Greeks were okay with Ottoman rule but not enough.
>>472759
poor osman ii
>>476139
>tall man
he's only 185 cm. but of course, a turkish manlet would think that's so tall as to dub him "tall man".
>>475815
Spain still holds Ceuta and, against all odds, is not considered an african country. France is not a south american country, neither is the UK. Russia is not an asiatic country.
>>481753
Fucking kikes!!!
>>473349
Oh Glorious Kaiserreich!
>>472850
Seljuks
>>481025
>>481753
>Guess his doctor's heritage.
>>485252
that's suprisingly good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo_mohlpWuA
>>485320
metmet the conquerer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEAV0M8NCfw
>>481753
>In 1481 Mehmed marched with the Ottoman army to a new campaign but when reaching Maltepe, Istanbul he became ill. After some days he died, on 3 May 1481, at the age of forty-nine, and was buried in his türbe in the cemetery within the Fatih Mosque Complex[82] He is thought to have been poisoned; one source accuses Yakub Pasha, a Jewish convert to Islam, of administering poison to Mehmed over a period of time.
>>476139
you tell him lad
>>485448
I don't know/don't think so.
>>479735
If only he wouldn't give in to military cue and stayed in power for 10 more years, everything would've been different. He wouldn't participate in WW1, in fact he said he wouldn't and it was an insane thing to do. Another turning point for Ottomans were Selim iii giving into mutinists and abolishing Nizam-i Cedid. They both gave in because they didn't want to spill blood of Turks hence sealed the deal for Ottomans.
>>472671
Khwarazmian empire was destroyed in 1231, Ottoman empire was founded in 1299. So Ottoman empire should be viewed as the successor of the Khwarazmian empire.
>>481753
fucking knew it
>>485811
They were started by different group of Turks AFAIK and there wasn't much overlap between them
>>473371
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qwuk0_-Y_Q
>>473269
no
>>487668
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ertu%C4%9Frul
Khwarazmian empire was centered in what is today's Turkmenistan. Founders of Ottoman empire were Oghuz turks from Turkmenistan.
>>485557
*military coup
>>489142
why are turks having coup regularly for fuck sake
>>481025
agreed
Who fucked more boys, the Greeks, the Romans or the Turks?
