How come historically wealthy nations always faced impending violent collapse? Wealth doesn't last forever? Why not?
>>461048
Affluence breeds societal stagnation. One generation creates the wealth, the other inherits it, unafflicted by the toil and hardship their ancestors had to endure to create said wealth.
>>461048
>Wealth doesn't last forever? Why not?
because what people call wealth is conditioned
>>461101
What the flying fuck am I looking at here
>>461107
Some Buddha/Hindu shit
Wealth lets you buy your way out of societal changes. It lets you pay off and oppress agents of change.
But eventually you can't afford that any more.
Poor societies never had that luxury and change more gracefully. They don't have anything worth a flashy civil war anyway.
It's a system based on vanity and an ever-menaced short-term-ness
As an example, it'd just take a massive electro magnetic impulse to fry most electronical device and render modern capitalism based on imaginary money useless. Then maybe the people would understand that you can't eat money.
Most past economic models were unsustainable (slavery, accumulation of precious metals, colonialism...). It seems that we are now moving towards more concrete systems.
>>461167
>endless bubbles and banking schemes with digital money
>concrete and sustainable
pick one and only one
>>461167
>colonialism
>unsustainable
The British empire had it going for almost 400 years.
>>461171
I said we are on the right path. Also, unstable doesn't mean unsustainable.
>>461173
And yet they lost it all.
>>461202
Only because of the Germans
If it wasn't for Germany trying to fuck over Europe twice, the British empire would last another thousand years
>>461210
Yeah, and if Britain had laser guns and superhuman robot soldiers they'd have kept a hold of their empire too, but they didn't.
Wealth usually equals power, which inevitably leads to conflict.
The exploitation inherent to class society is what's at the heart of all social conflict.
>>461149
>It'd just take a massive asteroid crashing into the Earth to render every human to ash and make them realize modern life based on physical bodies is useless. Then maybe the people would understand that you can't live eternally if you don't achieve transcendency.
>>461167
>Most past economic models were unsustainable (slavery, accumulation of precious metals, colonialism...). It seems that we are now moving towards more concrete systems.
This time, it's different.
>>461500
Yeah, but the impulse I'm talking about can be triggered by just one nuclear bomb throw in the magnetosphere. All it'd take would be one nuke.
I hope you people realize that the cycles we know are not something "natural" or "a part of" the capitalist system and are instead caused by ridiculous States doing State things.
It'd be like believing religion must necessarily be part of a feudal system or something ridiculous like that.
>>461544
>liberals
>>461555
>Arguments
>>461523
In a way, it is. Even with all major crises we have faced, we are still here and the system is now better than ever, getting stronger after each punch. Also, the power of economic cycles could be reduced with less government interference.
>>462009
>Reduced with less
Nullified with none. But hey, more shit than went down at WWII would have to happen to get rid of central banking.
>>461453
wow you sure argued his point to the ground with totally relevancy
>>461202
I HAD TO FALL
To lose it All
BUT IN THE END
IT DOESNT VEN MQTTER
Money makes things somewhat cushier. If after generations of easy living the situation changes and money doesn't automatically fix it, then the people may be ill equipped to handle the situation
>>462009
>In a way, it is. Even with all major crises we have faced, we are still here and the system is now better than ever, getting stronger after each punch.
...and the Great Moderation had consigned the boom and bust cycle to the dustbin of history, at least until the Great Recession happened.
>Also, the power of economic cycles could be reduced with less government interference.
Oh, please. The market has been having panics, manias and depressions since long before the Federal Reserve that supposedly caused them has existed.
>>461048
If you kill liberals you would effectively kill off societal instability since majority of them are bourgeois elitists.
>>462763
The economy still goes on and everyone prospers on the long run regardless.
>>461048
>Why doesn't X last forever
/his/ is so stupid.
>>461107
Buddhism cheat sheet.
Start with "Four Noble Truth" and then follow arrows.
>>461173
Have you noticed the pattern that every colonial power eventually lost their colonies? Whether they were willing to deflate in an organized fashion a la the British Empire or tried to hold on with a desperate death grip a la Portugal eventually they all seceded. imo that's a pretty big indication that there is a structural problem with colonialism.
>>461134
>They don't have anything worth a flashy civil war anyway.
top kek. tell that to liberia, somalia, libya, syria and angola
