Are their any noticeable effects of neanderthal genes among modern human populations?
>>451451
specifically physically, i know that the neanderthal admixture changed brain composition and immune system function
Larger supra orbital torus, occipital bun, larger nose cavity, heavier brow ridge, thicker skin
Some say red hair and other characteristics but that's highly debatable and involving complete speculation
Not really. At absolute most a person can have up to 4% of the DNA that seperates them from chimps (which is about 1% of the total genome) be from neanderthals. Considering that the majority of DNA is non-coding junk sequences, you're looking at imperceptible differences based purely on neanderthal dna.
>>451451
I would imagine the residual genetic influence would have selective relevance (the lots of bad gets weeded out, the little good will tend to remain)
Some /pol/ memesters use this to indicate ethnic inequality, which is ridiculous, but I doubt the admixture is dysgenic, rather than very slightly eugenic
Yes, I'm assuming neanderthals were shit-tier animals compared to cro-magnon. Deal with it
>>451451
VIDELICET: JEWS, ALPINID PEOPLES, PEOPLES NATIVE TO THE CAUCASIAN ZONE.
>Evolution Debunked
http://www.newgeology.us/presentation32.html
>Evolutionism is the Greatest Deception
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMr278CMAIA
>Kent Hovind debunks Evolution
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shyI-aQaXD0
>Evolution is a modern fairy tale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjvuwne0RrE
>The Greatest Lie Ever Told
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1ufK04tjOI
Fuck off with your Flintstone caveman myths.
Man went from good to worse, not the other way around.
>>451507
/thread
Those traits are exhibited in all non-whites and affects whites of Europe on a sliding scale. at the top Germans as they are pure homosapiens. The scale descends along ever expanding geographical concentric rings emanating from the Fatherland
I didn't know we were dredging up century old eugenics research projects tonight. Had I been prepared I would have blown my head off.
I have a much greater amount of neanderthal DNA than the average customer on 23andme and I look normal. I have a pronounced occipital bone, fairly small and straight nose, deep set eyes, strong brow, and wide cheekbones. If neanderthal DNA carries any physical traits, it must have skipped a few generations in my family.
>>451507
> I'll post a few youtube comments, that'll show em
> I won't recommend short papers in theology or the like
> Nah youtube will do
>>451534
This is not even true.
>>451507
:^)
>>451507
>WE WUZ GIANTS ND SHIET
Christians actually believe this.
>>452452
There are literally giant human skeletons found.
There are literally strange elongated human heads found in South America and Egypt.
Just because you have never heard of these discoveries does not mean they are not true.
>>451507
Evolution has already been observed in E. Coli during a long term experiment performed by Richard Lenski, where E. Coli was observed to have evolved an entirely new trait.
>>451451
>Neanderthal
>dark skin
>Homo sapiens (back then)
>light skin
>>451534
I hope this is bait.
Even if it isn't, Germans are most certainly not pure Homo sapiens sapiens. The last pure Homo sapiens sapiens lived in Africa, and even that's not likely anymore, as archaic DNA from another species and Neanderthal DNA (thanks to Eurasians coming back into Africa some 4500 years ago) is now found in Africans.
We're all mutts.
>>451703
If I may ask, how much?
>>452471
Elongated heads have been human made since childhood.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_cranial_deformation
And as for the giants, those are genetic defects like that nearly 9 foot tall guy who died in the 1920s, or a different species of hominin (Meganthropus, a subspecies of Homo erectus).
>>453312
The only pure Homo Sapiens descendants in Europe are the Haplogroup I carriers, that is the haplogroup that the Cromagnons (original Europeans) carried to Europe 30k-40k years ago. 2015 a Swiss Cromagnon study was conducted on a sample which gave results that the Haplogroup of that particular Bichon Grotté Cromagnon had a I2a Haplogroup Y-DNA marker.
>>452533
>ath*ists literally compare humans to e coli
>>453922
>Him
>Cro-Magnon
Besides, he was 9% Neanderthal.
>>453922
Otzi was a near eastern farmer with haplogroup G
>>451451
>Are their any noticeable effects of neanderthal genes among modern human populations?
Yes. Manlets.
>>453302
>mfw I have a body like the neaderthal but height of the sapien
WHO THUNDER THIGHS HERE
>>451534
>Germans as they are pure homosapiens
>>453922
>The only pure Homo Sapiens descendants in Europe are the Haplogroup I carriers
Nigga you high as FUCK
>>453312
>If I may ask, how much?
3.8%.
>>454066
>Nigga you high as FUCK
He is not, just informed.
Haplogroup IJ, carried by the Cro-Magnons was moving to Europe from the Middle East between 40,000 and 30,000 years ago. The TMRCA (time to most recent common ancestor) for the I clade was estimated by Karafet and colleagues in 2008 as 22.2 k.a. (22,200 years ago) with a confidence interval between 15.3-30.0 ka.,[2] placing the Haplogroup I-M170 founding event approximately contemporaneous with the Last Glacial Maximum (LGM) which lasted from 26.5 ka to 19 or 20 ka.[3] The TMRCA is an estimate of the time of subclade divergence. Rootsi and colleagues in 2004 also note two other dates for a clade, age of STR variation, and time since population divergence. These last two dates are roughly associated, and occur somewhat after subclade divergence. For Haplogroup I-M170 they estimate time to STR variation as 24±7.1 ky and time to population divergence as 23±7.7 ky.[4] These estimates are consistent with those of Karafet 2008 cited above. However Underhill and his colleagues calculate the time to subclade divergence of I1 and I2 to be 28.4±5.1 ky, though they calculate the STR variation age of I1 at only 8.1±1.5 kya.[5]
Haplogroup I is Europe's oldest major and only one whose point of origin is there, excluding European subclades of haplogroups that did not originate in Europe.[6] Genes for blue eyes such as OCA2 were present on Mesolithic European carriers of haplogroup I, while another typical European feature, the red hair, had not been present in Europe until the Bronze Age when Haplogroup R1b carriers began spreading it.[7]
>>454335
Interesting info, Scandis and south Slavs have the most predominant genetical descendants of Cro-Magnons or original Europeans.
>>453945
>Evolution is different for humans and bacteria
>>454055
top kek
What do you guys think about the Pygmies? They have an archaic human species in them.
>>454374
>>454335
interestingly they are also amongst the highest nations in world according to the national average height ratio on wiki. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Average_height_around_the_world
>>451507
God or not, organisms share the same genetic code bar some archaea that have two or three different codons associated with different respective amino acids, along with the exact same redundancies.
You have to be retarded to believe that such a complex system does not point to a single common ancestor.
>>454493
Which is funny, as Cro-Magnons could get up to 6'5 feet tall. I hypothesize that Cro-Magnons are directly descended from tall Africans before they left Africa.
>>454528
A car and skateboard both have 4 wheels.
That proves the car evolved from a skateboard!
Microsoft Word and Microsoft Excell have thousands of lines of identical code.
That proves they have a common ancestor!
..No, that proves they have a common designer.
Retard.
>>455572
Skateboards originated from boxcars with wheels underneath, based on early automobiles.
So not only do Bacteria and Archaea share a same ancestor, but the modern automobile and the skateboard do as well.
>>453945
kinda like the guy who compared humans to skateboards and Microsoft Word.
>>455588
What needs to be right in order for a car to function correctly?
Thousands of things.
What needs to go wrong for a car to break down? Any of them.
One cell in your body is more sophisticated and complex than the ISS or all the computers in the world.
The earliest living organism needs many things in order to function, it can't live without any of them. How does this happen in your ancient soup myth?
And I haven't even brought in DNA, fossil record and frauds that disprove your theory.
Evolution is scientifically and mathematically impossible.
DNA is genetic code.
It contains everything you need.
It does magically grow new code.
You can only lose or scramble information, this is known as a mutation.
Dogs produce dogs, that's the only thing we have ever observed.
Evolutionists believe dogs can turn into whales or bananas, given [insert imaginary number of years].
They always need billions or millions of years in order to make their theory sound less stupid.
>>455572
what is a designer?
>>455604
>mathematically
yeah, show the mathematical proof then.
>>455604
>>455611
It does not*
>>455618
>>455618
don't see any mathematics there bud.
List of known evolutionist frauds/hoaxes that have been debunked (but still taught to children in school today):
1. Haeckel's fake embryo drawings with gill slits, proven wrong more than 100 years ago. He himself admitted it was fraudulent.
2. "Geologic column" was made up by 1 person. Yes, there are layers. No, they do not represent eras. Sediments, layers and the position of fossils can be explained by a global flood (clams are down because they don't run so fast, birds are high because they are the last to drown, etc).
3. "Missing links". They take one tiny bone and then recreate an entire being based on their imagination. Lucy has been proven to be a fraud and so was Piltdown.
Evolutionists rely on blatant lies to uphold their theory. Without their lies, it all falls apart.
Evolution violates the second law of thermodynamics (entropy).
Everything breaks down over time, things get worse. We observe this in everything. Yet evolution implies things get better over time.
>>455631
http://www.newgeology.us/presentation32.html
atheists BTFO
>>455637
>1. Haeckel's fake embryo drawings with gill slits, proven wrong more than 100 years ago. He himself admitted it was fraudulent.
Good thing there's the tail, or there'd be issues.
hey, I remember you shitting in /twg/
Last warning bud.
>>455646
>>455637
4. Vestigial structures.
Evolutionists believe whales and snakes have tiny legs, but they are not legs at all. They use those things in mating.
>>455655
No argument, you admit evolutionism is a lie.
Good game.
http://www.newgeology.us/presentation32.html
/thread
>>455659
If you say so. Never mind your definition of entropy is completely wrong.
>>455659
entropy for a closed system increases as a whole when work is done upon it.
the earth is not a closed system
>>455646
Can you go out and stare at the Sun for about two or three hours?
>>455683
>new geology
>doesn't even know how entropy works.
>>455671
BELIEVE IN THE LORD G*D AND ALL IS POSSIBLE
>>455683
>check out the website just to see who even wrote this
>he's making an argument against plate tectonics
>>451534
Nice meme, I'm sure you know that the only few people that are actually pure homo sapien are african, while the rest of the civilized world has some neanderthal in them
>>455572
>>455612
> common designer
what is a designer??
because in the example you are making the 'desigenr' is a megacorporation made up of thousands of programers and machines and fuchuge amounts of dinamic capital interacting with a market and a population of consumers and users and thats what results in the existance of the programs youre refering to
so even tho they are obviously shaped by inteligence and are forms with set functions they dont actualy exist because someone waved a finger but as a result of certain proceses constantly ongoing
so then, in the context of biology, what is a designer ?
all form-functions are a manifestation of what we call inteligence, but what is that?
dont you get it?
>>455721
>plate tectonics is a lie
>>455739
>falling for a meme this ebin
>>455572
Why would a common designer put in so much redundancy into what is essentially the engine that moves life?
>>455604
>Fossils disproving evolution
Show us them m80
>>455721
>An argument against plate tectonics
Holy fuck. How do these people think earthquakes happened? Have they never seen the treeline differences on the San Andreas?
>>455611
actually DNA can copy, delete and duplicate.
for example, genes can be duplicated resulting in two genes with the same function. over time due to mutations the function and expression of each gene are modified and develop new functions by slightly changing the protein it produces. this is how a single gene can result in two different genes with different functions though they originated from a single common gene.
>>455904
i should also add that whats even more important than the evolution of a new gene with a unique phenotype is the mutation and development of genes involved in regulatory pathways. this way even a small change in sequence or function of a regulatory gene could potentially influence the expression of dozens of other genes. this kind of genetic evolution is more important for the formation of new organs and tissues because it is the organisation of genes that result in the most profound changes to an organism rather than evolving a single unique gene.
>>454455
All that Pygmy pussy
>>454621
>they left Africa
Are we even really sure about that?
>>455646
you are stupid
>>455649
I love this troll. Much more interesting than the /pol/ tier shit we're getting now.
>>454064
t. 390 lb squat
>>456045
Where do you think Homo sapiens came from Anon?
Please tell me you don't believe in the multiregional theory.
>>456073
nice try you dyel
>>451703
3.4% here.
>>454374
>>454493
They carry the same male lineage, thats it. They arent especially hunter gatherer admixtured apart from the y chromosome and y chromosome does not affect height in any way.
>>455671
lol
>>455646
Except for the fact that a new hypothesis using thermodynamics has been brought forward recently.
https://www.quantamagazine.org/20140122-a-new-physics-theory-of-life/
>"The formula, based on established physics, indicates that when a group of atoms is driven by an external source of energy (like the sun or chemical fuel) and surrounded by a heat bath (like the ocean or atmosphere), it will often gradually restructure itself in order to dissipate increasingly more energy. This could mean that under certain conditions, matter inexorably acquires the key physical attribute associated with life."
>>460916
This means that right this second, life could be forming in Europa.
>>459351
>The Y chromosome is the male sex chromosome, absent in women. The gene on chromosome 15, called CYP19, codes for aromatase - an enzyme that converts testosterone into oestrogen in both sexes. Oestrogen influences height because it is responsible for bones fusing over at the ends, which stops people growing.
>Aromatase seems to have its effect mainly on long bones, like those in the legs, said Dr Ellis. Men and women generally have similar-sized bodies, but men tend to have longer legs.
>>454455
There's a photo of my granddad like this. He was a Christian missionary in West Papua. Also about 6'4. Supposedly one of the only reasons why the tribe let him live was because he was so big
manlets when will they learn
>>461368
>manlets when will they learn
learn what, how to kill a tall man?
are you an imbecile?
>>461374
manlet detected
>>454335
Haplogroup I is native to Europe but all Indo-European languages spread to Europe from the East with R1, G, T, E, and J.
>>457560
>multiregional theory.
You believe all mutations spread like a disease, which is wrong.
>>461380
>Supposedly one of the only reasons why the tribe let him live was because he was so big
manlets when will they learn
you wanted manlets to buttfuck your grandfather, the fuck is the logic behind your shitposting?
