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What could hitler and the germans have done diffrently that could have made them win the war or at least made the allies sue for peace ?
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>>42743
Go to your local library, there is a huge book describing all the shit he could have done..
Its literally called "How the nazis could have won the war"
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Know when to quit. Settle for something like the Sudetenland, Danzig, and Alsace-Lorraine, establish new and genuinely independent governments with troop restrictions in conquered territory. Offer a peace Britain can accept and peace out.

Problem was that Nazi ideology wasn't about revising Versailles, but about genociding/enslaving eastern europe and dominating western europe. No one else would accept that, so they got dragged into unwinnable war after war.
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>>42774
eecks dee
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>>42743
mm
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One small mistake during the russian invasion. Thats literally it. Forgot the details. Some tank batallion sent to the wrong front, somewhere in the south. Hitler gave the order.
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>>42743

Try to ally with the Western allies against communism.
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>>44174
Oh, I remember this one.

He invaded Russia.

Without that one small mistake, everything could have ended pretty well.
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>>44251
Ffs they could have taken moscow within weeks. Smdh desu. Invading russia by itself wasnt the mistake.
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>>44203
>communism
>bad
He should have continued his alliance with the Soviets and fucked over the west
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>>44485
Stalin would have attacked him, ever wondered why Soviets were moving tons of soldiers to german border?
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>>42743
Our biggest problem, at least the one we personally made, was that we attacked russia in winter without being suited for it in any way. Our gear was literally made to look good, not to be functioning well
Another big proble we had was italy chickening out on us and crawling the allies up their ass. That led us to have to fight 3 fronts which fucked us over in the end
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>>44584
That's a bullshit myth bro.
In fact, given how Red Army was raped hard in 1941 in big part because their logistics were insanely shit, it's pretty clear they weren't preparing any offensive.
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>>44614
He attacked in summer
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basically not leaving russia before winter set in.

russia's scorched earth shit would have crippled their economy hard and losing so many men from the german offense would have ensured they would have been nothing more than an average nuisance to the germans. If they had retreated before they got trapped and froze to death in the fucking droves, germany would still have a sizable army and be able to respond better to attacks that would happen further into the war
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>>44633
I mean, would we have started our attack in spring, Winter wouldn't have ruined us
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>>42743
declared war on the USA.

WHY - roosevelt was almost unable to convince the people that europe was the big threat - they only really hated the japs. Then hitler declares war on em.

D'oh.
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Really nothing. Germany's defeat can be attributed to a lack of resources. Unless Germany magically comes across an unlimited amount of oil and iron ore they could have won every single battle and still be overwhelmed by the allied war machine.
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>>42743
not ally the shitalians
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>>44614
Interesting. So Russia wasn't going to invade Poland anytime soon? Smdh desu senpai
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>>42743
Bypassed Stalingrad and sapped the Soviet fuel lines South of it.
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stop interfering with his generals esp. von Paulus
continue bombing the RAF instead of switching to civilian targets during the Battle of Britain
concentrated more on getting The Bomb

>>44485
>alliance between NatSoc and Communism
>lasting for any appreciable length of time
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>>44760
Hitler would have had to have taken on the USA eventually in order to cut the transatlantic supply route to the UK
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>>44760
This was his biggest mistake.
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>Not attack the USSR
>Not ally yourself with the shitty Italians who lost to Greeks & Ethiopians
>Listening to your Generals

Hitler should have stopped at Czechoslovakia and build Germany up from there
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>>42743

Not try to fight the biggest empire, the biggest land power, and the biggest economy at the same time. Hitler was a good gambler for much of his career, but a moron when it came to grand strategy.
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>People dont believe hitler couldve won ww2, even in 1944
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>>42743
Not letting his hateboner against russians to get the best of him.

Dude, like, just wait for the right time, the soviets aren't going anywhere.
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>>42837
This pretty much. I do wonder if Hitler would have been able to make peace with Britain after the Battle of France if he'd asked to restore Germany's pre-WW1 borders or something rather than trying to annex everything.

Outside of that, if he wanted to achieve his historical goals, realistically nothing. He tried starving and bombing the UK out of the war but that didn't work. An invasion of Britain was unrealistic because of the strength of the Royal Navy and Air Force. Invading Russia seems like a mistake but the USSR would have almost certainly declared war on him later if he didn't invade. Declaring war on the USA seems like a non-issue to me since US involvement in the war in Europe was fairly insignificant compared to the UK until Operation Overlord, by which time the war was already lost for Hitler. There are potentially different decisions which could have been made in the eastern front such as not leaving the entire 6th army to surrender in Stalingrad, but I personally feel like the war was already lost when the German armed forced failed to reach Moscow by winter 1941, since a war of attrition in Russia against the Red Army doesn't seem like something any country could ever hope to win.
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Hitler let the allies evacuate during Dunkirk battle. He could have humiliated the British there, but he still believed in an English peace and he simply was insecure about the situation.
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>>45637
>alliance between Capitalism and Communism
>lasting for any appreciable length of time
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>>42743
I watched a video the other day that shows a bunch of highly innovative technology Hitler himself turned down that could have extremely effected the outcome of the war.
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Hitler should've offed himself a bit earlier
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>>44174

Realistically speaking, war with the USSR and the Third Reich was inevitable. Both only signed the pact of steel to buy themselves time whilst they prepared to take out the other. It could be argued that Hitler should have invaded USSR even earlier, rather than go down and help Italy fight the Greeks.
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>>48467

Molotov-Ribbentrop agreement, not Pact of Steel. My bad
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>>42743
If Hitler had seized the Russian oil fields instead of going after Stalingrad to piss off Stalin.
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>>45670

This is correct. America was pseudo Allied with Britain before 1941, and after Pearl Harbor it was inevitable that USA would end up at war with all the Axis powers.
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