What was Soviet pop culture like? Is it possible for pop culture to thrive in a non-capitalist country?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwFC626lRT4
You'll be surprised then. Their pop culture wasn't really that much different. Just not commercialised.
I know that in Poland they also developed music not unlike how it was in the west at the same time.
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It was pretty vibrant, especially in the 80s
>>421072
>Is it possible for pop culture to thrive in a non-capitalist country?
I know we in Finland have covered some Yugoslav 80's pop songs in the late 90's, they were a non-capitalist country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7FKZtwSkk8
They had some really nice pop music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jfgf-IWulI
>>421318
>covered yugoslav songs
hehe we in poland did the same, here the whole album, they had some really good music in the 80's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx8SDdtcYPk
>>421072
On mobile so I can't post link but the Soviet version of Winnie the Pooh is GOAT
the USSR was a surprisingly culturally fertile place, though I don't know why
>>421872
Oppression and shortage of everything makes people imagine something with what they've got. Necessity is the mother of invention.
For example, Leonid Gaidai, a famous Soviet director, once added completely nonsensical mushroom cloud footage to the end of one of his movies just so censors would forget about the smaller stuff.
>>421846
muh negro
You tend to get some interesting stuff once you detach the arts from the profit motive. That state censorship was a sham though.
>>424128
was a shame*, oops.
>>421846
Can confirm, this is factually accurate.
>>424128
This useless speculation, but imagine the cultural shit the russians would have created if they had fended off the bolshies
>>421072
Structurally it was close to early 70s in the West and mid 80s Japan regarding clubbing and certain themes in music(disco and rock). Drugs were missing if you aren't part of the red nomenclature. If you are thinking of sexual degeneracy, it was also the time it emerged, but the Party in each country wasn't fond of contraceptives and abortion, so shotgun weddings were a thing and the eventual cock-carousel was avoided. Talking about Bulgaria and Poland here.
>>421072
Come and See
based piece of powerful Soviet propaganda.
>>424692
>pop culture
Posting some yugoslav synth pop lads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK56LPW51pY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tqir1T1Eb8
>>421072
Pop-culture of 1920s - constructivism, tango, first jazz experiments.
1930s-40s- tango, jazz, socialist realism, patriotic song.
1950s-60s - twist, soviet pop-music, the socialist realism becomes boring.
1970-1985 - soviet pop-music, legal pop-rock (vocal-instrumental ensembles aka VIA), illegal and half-legal rock bands (state tries to control them through the rock clubs like Leningrad Rock-club and Moscow Rock-laboratory), electromusic (Eduard Artemyev, VIA Zodiac of Latvia, Jean-Michelle Jarre is visiting Union).
1985- Perestroika. Rock bands are public and legal, censorship is weakened, experimental music is on the rise. Moscow Rock Festival with foreign rock bands. First attempts to export soviet rock music.
Marginally related. What was the name of that baller cartoon about a Soviet super spy that was Bond meets Terminator and for some reason was friends with the actual Bond?
>>424882
Not spy, policeman.Captain Pronin.
Based on Major Pronin, the crime fiction character
>>424684
I don't know about Bulgaria, but abortion was pretty widespread in Poland until 1993, when, under the Church's pressure, they introduced much more restrictive laws.
>In 1956 the Sejm legalized abortion in cases where the woman was experiencing "difficult living conditions". The interpretation of the change in the law varied from a restrictive interpretation, in the late 1950s, to one in where abortion was allowed on request, in the 1960s and 1970s. It was not uncommon that women from countries where abortions were restricted, such as Sweden, travelled to Poland to carry out abortions which were accessible and affordable there.
>>424753
Slovenian is so fucking weird, dude.
I understand most of it, but fuck, it sounds so wrong.
>>424897
Thanks m8. Saw it years ago, and this thread brought it back to my mind.
A Russian friend of mine always sense me sci-fi Soviet cartoons from his childhood. Apparently, sci-fi was extremely popular as a way of getting around censors.
>>424684
drugs were definitely a thing, my dad would sell heroin (theh called it poppy compote) to Warsaw, weed was very popular, sniffing glue (butapren) as well. He also brought the first Sex Pistols are record to our region.
When I come back here in the evening I'll tell more about the situation in poland but PRL had definitely the best Cold Wave in the world. Checkout the band Siekiera. Also KSU is a legend where I live
>>424665
That is also useless speculation.
Do countries run by the military boom culturally? Because that's what a white victory in the civil war would've resulted in.
>>425117
Nice, bretty gud.
>>425032
What are some examples?
>>425923
The Mystery of the Third Planet comes to mind.
>>425117
Croatian.
>>425159
Your dad sounds baller
>>421072
Capitalistically, every music-band can feel itself all-right, if they have enough freedom speech and rights, freedom for compose and money for an wodka dose.
About censorship, public make it too, so full discensorship of music band is not possible too.
>>421072
Good TV shows
>>426318
Lookup Leningrad Cowboys. A Finnish associate of my father's showed them to him back in the late 80s.
>>421072
Who knows? We'll see.
Wasn't Venus, or as they called it "Shizgadyi" super popular in Russia?
>>421072
>Is it possible for pop culture to thrive in a non-capitalist country?
why shouldn't it?!
or do you think the iron curtain was some sort of a literally impenetrable boundary, and that the soviet people all lived in some kind of a 1984 fantasy with grey overalls, only being fed propaganda and nothing else?
certainly they were worse off in terms of personal and economic liberty, but they were still people who liked to have fun, read books - including stuff like scifi books from the west - saw movies - including stuff like western movies from the west - and listened to pop music - including stuff like duran duran
and, of course, they also produced their own pop culture from stupid comedy films with fart jokes to high brow artsy hipster bullshit to funky disco pop
heck they even had their own subcultures not dissimilar to the ones going on in the postww2 west
>>429032
>subcultures
yeah, no shit
This came out in the 77-80 period, pretty much the same time as Clash and Sex pistols were doing their thing in the west
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaFexroMIPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSgw8OSfhP0
>>421318
how can /his/ become great if people cannot differentiate between alliances and historic stages?
>>421072
Of course not, pop culture is bourgeois propaganda
>>421846
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEwE4wyz00o
love that shit, super comfy
>>425174
Yes, I was referring to my own comment as useless speculation.
And what makes you think the whites wouldn't return power to the democratic duma?
>>421846
Vinnie-Pooh is mah nigga.
>>429016
It was popular, but they called it "Shizgara".
Some Czech country
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGxyXryljpw
>>432045
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fQZsKOIPhA
both are like 70's or 80's
>>432045
>dat qt czech redneck accent
<3 ^^ :D
I just want a czech to squeeze and cuddle and so on and so on
>>421081
>that keyboard player
>that dead crowd
>the lead singer
Not quite sure what's going on
>>432045
ŘÍKAL TO JIM BRIDGER
JÁ MĚL JSEM V NOCI SEN
POD SEDMOUUU KAVALÉRIIÍÍÍÍÍ
JAK KRVÍ RUDNE ZEMMMM
thanks grandpa for exposing me to cool music
>>426333
Leningrad Cowboys are a Finnish satire band, not actually Soviet.
>>433081
please leave
>>433081
Are you a qt grill or at least a trap? You can cuddle me
"Pop culture" is a modernist invention based on folk culture.
It's been manipulated since mass media became possible.
e.g. the "American dream" was created by Ashkenazi film producers from the 1920s onwards
Soviet culture was the same, except overt.
>>421072
Well, this is Soviet counter-culture from the 80s:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDCDsKHCE8s
>>429697
>And what makes you think the whites wouldn't return power to the democratic duma?
Not the other guy, but here's my reasoning: None of the other countries where the military took charge became democratic afterwards. The list is as long as the list of recent additions to the EU: Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, Poland...
>>433081
Czechaboo pls go
They made cool cartoons too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGofoatz-20
>>433837
>not being a Czechaboo
