ITT: We post events that led to the downfall of Nations/Civilizations.
Honourable mentions :
Battle of Mohacs
Battle of White Mountain
Battle of Adrianople
Battle of Manzikert
>The Battle of White Mountain consigned the Bohemians to a fate of subservience to the Hapsburg crown for centuries.
>King Louis II' death would place the allow Ferdinand Hapsburg to press his claim on both Bohemia and Hungary.
>>387357
Battle of Vienna 1683
>>387371
Bohemia has had Habsburg rulers for a century by the time of the battle. Also to be pedantically precise they have always kept being under the Bohemian crown.
>>387357
>Battle of Manzikert
Manzikert did not lead to the downfall of the Byzantines. Until about 4-5 years before the First Crusade, between 1070-1090, Byzantine Anatolia even with its Turkoman tribes was the richest and most prosperous region of the empire.
>>388593
The Bohemians still had the Hapsburg monarchs accepting the letters of Majesty until White Mountain, it was only after that battle that Bohemia's chances at independence were truly dashed.
>>388888
By allowing the Turks into Anatolia they signed their death warrant.
>>388892
More like all of Western Europe's eventual demise.
>>388892
Napoleon saved it, but not for long
>>390532
That's about the revolution of 1830, faggot.
Why so many people thinks that painting by Delacroix is about the 1789 revolution?
>>391808
Eh, I think it's fair to use it to refer to the rise of European liberalism in general.
Battle of Rocroi
Cierra Espana in heaven
>>391988
This is actually a very important power shift from Spanish dominance. Why does no one know of it?
>>390484
The letter of majesty regulated religious affairs in Bohemia, it had nothing to do with independence.
>>388576
How did that lead to anyone's downfall? The Ottomans soldiered on for about 250 more years.
>>390484
>>392691
You seem to operate under the impression that the goal of the battle of the White Mountain or the revolt in general was "independence" but as outlined above, the Habsburgs had been in power for over a century by then, and they simply remained in power after the rebellion was defeated. Furthermore, it was not a fight for "independence" - an "independence" from whom? the kingdom of Bohemia has existed for centuries by then, and kept existing for a couple more afterwards - it was an uprising by a minority of the nobility against what they saw as their privileges being curtailed and the expansion of power of the crown. Really had it not provided (one of) the spark for the 30YW, the revolt would be just one of many relatively unimportant footnotes in European history. Your portrayal of its failure as "consigning Bohemia to a fate of subservience to the Habsburg crown" is a very poor reading of history - are you Czech by any chances? - the "Habsburg crown" assuming you mean the crown of the Czech lands has been on the head of the Habsburgs already for a century before.
>>392683
>Why does no one know of it?
Because the English weren't involved.
>>392714
It was the last time the Czechs had any form of freedom or power over/from the Hapsburgs; the Hapsburgs did force rulership over the Bohemians but by no means did the Bohemians view themselves as Austrians. It's only after the battle of White Mountain that Bohemian history becomes irrelevant outside of Hapsburg history.
Read a book yo
>>392736
But where not the Spanish, England's greatest rival for a time?
>>392761
Again you are showing ignorance of the fact that Habsburgs had ruled Bohemia for a century prior to the White Mountain.
>Read a book yo
heh
>>392785
It was a personal union. Not outright annexation. Do you hear of France or England allowing a certain minority to force their own religious freedom without being suppressed? The Bohemians for a time managed to be Protestant and before that there was the Hussite moment. The Hapsburgs rulership was for its entirety during the 15th and 16th centuries marked by apparent strength. That doesn't mean it was actual strength.
>>392790
I honestly do not understand what it is you are trying to say with your post.
>It was a personal union. Not outright annexation.
What was. The century prior to White Mountain? Well, yes. After the White Mountain? Well, yes again. The Habsburgs ruled the Czech crown lands. They put down a rebellion. They kept ruling the lands in question. There was no "annexation".
>The Hapsburgs rulership was for its entirety during the 15th and 16th centuries marked by apparent strength.
The only Habsburgs in power in Bohemia in the 15th century were Albert and Ladislaus for a grand total of some seven years of not particularly effecive rule.
Let me ask again, are you Czech by any chance?
>>392815
I'm Australian if it helps, I'm simply arguing that the battle of White Mountain was of a similar degree to the battle or Mohacs, both are very significant for the further rise of the Hapsburgs. The Hapsburgs didn't consider the Bohemian crown lands as a Hapsburg hereditary possessions. White Mountain changed that.
>>391818
The 1830 revolution went pretty well. It lasted 3 days before being repressed by based police and Louis-Phillipe was a based monarch.
His first moves were to liberate French industry that would soon catch up with Britain and launch a massive strike to purge the Muslims from the sea and put an end to the Barbarian menace in the Mediterranean.
>>387357
Battle of Lepanto
we coulda all been glorious Ottoman
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>>392885
Ottomans more like Janissary keks
>>392869
Obviously the defeat of the rebellion was important in shaping the history of Bohemia, but at the same time what you describe was not the result of the battle - what you allude to (i.e. absolute succession without the approval of the estates) was put into effect by the Land Ordnance some ten years after the Bohemian revolt was over.
>>392873
>His first moves were to liberate French industry that would soon catch up with Britain
Not true at all, the French lagged behind Britain and didn't even have a good railway system(hitting all their regions) until 1870+.
French industry was based on skilled artisans not factory workers like Britain, though obviously they did exist.
>>392898
Byzantium was long dead before then, you either mean Manzikert, the Fourth Crusade, or Myriokephalon.
>>392924
I know, but still is European clay. Santa Sofia must be liberated.
>>392913
The formalisation or Bohemia's complete suzerainty under the Hapsburgs was 10 years later after White Mountain but there was no one left to protest it after White Mountain and the subsequent executions. Hence it's significance in at least my mind.
>>392927
>over 500 years ago
>still european clay
hate this meme, by that logic we should reform the HRE but austria-hungary should exist but italy shouldn't exist but the balkans should be turkish etc etc
>>392913
The main reason why White Mountain is so important is because of the whole religion context of that time. Because of the zealous spark of the battle and whole 30 Years' war, the Habsbourgs defeated/exiled/executed most of Czech utraquist, freeing a lot of space in the Czech nobility, which they then filled with German nobles who were willing to cooperate with them. That together with the pure military strenght of Habsbourgs allowed the New Land Ordnance to pass.
If we'd won White Mountain, not only we would gain another ruler than Habsbourgs, also we would maintain our separate religion and our strong nobility which balanced out the monarch's power.
The armies amassed near the town of Waterloo in modern-day Belgium, not far from the border with France, and it was the French who made the first move around 11am.
The two sides clashed along a 4 mile line for 10 hours, with the British fending off repeated attacks from the French, until Marshal Blücher arrived at the head of a Prussian army.
This was the decisive intervention which finished Napoleon off and forced the Frenchman to surrender.
The Prussians wanted Bonaparte shot, a fate he certainly merited. Once again, it was Wellington who intervened to insist that the emperor should be spared, and merely dispatched to languish on St Helena until his death in 1821.
The emperor, by contrast, was a supreme cad: he left 10,000 francs in his will to a French soldier who tried to assassinate the Duke in the streets of Paris.
>>392963
>The Prussians wanted Bonaparte shot, a fate he certainly merited
:^)
Reminder, Prussia fell in less than a month.
>>392945
Dude, geographical its Europa.
>>393011
>supporting population displacement anywhere in europe
how disgustingly uneuropean of you
>>391988
It was the beginning of the end, but years later spaniards rekt the french again, it was something more gradual.
>>393036
It was the first defeat of the "invincible Spanish tercio" which in itself kind of symbolises Spain's decline.
>>393079
Yeah I agree on that. Still, being invincible for one and a half century is pretty impressive. Too bad spaniards can't into propaganda and anglos with their black legend made sure Spain would never get any recognition about its achievements.
>>388892
That painting is not about THE French revolution
>>393011
It's called Europe in english you fucking autist
>>387357
>Battle of Adrianople
>this meme
The Eastern Empire fought that battle and the Eastern Empire survived over another millenium.
No grand battle destroyed the West, it was steady attrition in civil wars and the changing of the nature of the army.
>>392885
>coffeeshops everywhere
>fezes are seen as fashionable
It could have been so comfy
>>393122
Spain will forever be remembered now as evil colonist murderers. Only the small crowd of educated historians will be aware of their golden age.
