Just your daily reminder that the Roman empire ended in 1923
>implying
>>359571
>>359492
>>359571
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>>359587
No mitä vittua :--D
>>359492
>implying it ended
>>359587
>Russia
>legitimate successor of ERE
>>359587
Funland is truly amazing
Washington was Cincinnatus.
>>359587
Nope. Finland lost that claim when Prince Frederik Charles of Hesse abdicated the throne as Germany lost WW2. A filthy republic couldn't possibly claim succession to imperial Rome.
>>359669
whoops I mixed up my post referrals
>>359669
>Rome was a Republic first
Roman EMPIRE was not. It was a new entity altogether, there's no continuum.
>>359674
>There's no continuum
Historically illiterate it is then.
>>359679
First, that was my first post in this thread, just a heads up. Often retards like you think they're arguing with a single person.
Second, claiming the Empire is the continuation of the Republic is like saying USSR is the successor of the Russian empire. It's horseshit.
>>359587
EBIN xxd
>>359674
The defining aspect of Rome was its national identity, not tied to any single man or council. That's why the people of Constantinople called themselves Romans and why the Holy Roman Empire was even a thing. The Roman Empire made all of Europe Roman and the many seperate peoples carried on the light of Rome.
>>359716
>the many seperate peoples carried on the light of Rome.
>>359692
The Princeps was a continuation of the Republic to the point it retained many if not all the same institutions and positions of the Roman Republic. The big difference was that the Julio Claudians were now secretly in charge behind the scene. But even in latter Imperial Dynasties up to the Antonines, the posts, politics and precedents of the Old Republic were still important to the point of being cumbersome and the Imperial Administration still having to abide by them either in name or in actuality.
>>359587
>Finland
>heir to Rome
>not Mongolia
>>359669
Rome was a kingdom first
>>359492
>1806
very true and I heard hitler had tried very hard to re-establish the roman empire. not how ww2 is marketed today. there's a reason for the roman salute, ya know. hitler saw himself as the leader of the new holy roman empire... the eastern slavs and the english speaking world had to to disintegrate the roman empire did not like it...theres a reason he gathered sympathy all around.
>>359608
You'll find they are when Turkey gets kicked out of NATO
>>359669
The Russian claim to being Rome's heirs rested on dynastic ties. Finland was the one success of the White movement and Mannerheim was a hardline anti-bolshevik, but the dynasty was still gone - and so was the Roman connection.
>>359571
Fuck off with this. Instead of trying to push the america new rome meme like people have for the last hundred years we should boldly be proclaiming ourselves to be the creators of something never before seen. Rome was once just a shitty collection of hills and huts and ended up molding 2,000 years of history. We can do likewise and are already converting the world with our awful pop culture and soft power.
We're not the new rome, we're the first USA and we should aim to be so ingrained into history that hundreds of years after our demise people still bicker over who is worthy enough to be our successors.
>>362925
>>362925
This is true, but it doesn't mean the United States is not the heir to Rome: a global superpower and the primary exporter of culture in the world.
>>362925
>>363102
America is kind of shit though.
>What could have been
Too bad.
>>363113
>America is kind of shit though.
That's a funny way to spell "the greatest goddamn country in the world"
>>363124
>America
That's a funny way to say "the only state thoroughly governed by the will of the Yeoman farmer, the protection of which is solely dependent on an armed and motivated citizenry."
>implying
>>362925
Putting statues of our presidents in facsimiles of Greco-Roman temples, as if they were gods is pretty fucking cool desu
>>363155
you fuckin know it m8
>>363201
What we really need to do is turn all of them into giant fighting robots.
Every time a threat to the nation appears, we just power up the founding fathers and the statue of liberty and go fuck shit up.
>>363201
It's cool until you realize it's all rooted in Freemasonic philosophy
>>359692
Nice false equivalency, you cretin.
>>363208
Mechanized Statue of Liberty would be the alternate.
>>359492
>smelly steppe barbarians
>roman
No
>>359587
>E"R"E
>>365631
Rome isn't a city. Rome is a state of mind.
>>365138
>mount Rushmore tags in the statue of liberty for an atomic elbow against the iron sheikh Iran
>>365665
>Oh no! Lady Liberty has got him in the Golden Gate Guillotine Choke!
>>365665
>>365694
>mfw
>>362804
He didn't didn't start with that solute though that though, he took it from the Italian facist, who he greatly emulated when first coming to power.
