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What alternate /his/tory would you want to live in /his/? Mine
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What alternate /his/tory would you want to live in /his/?
Mine is the world of Kaiserreich
>Germany wins WW1
>Francs falls to Syndicalism
>Britain falls to Syndicalims, English royalty, loyalists, and elites flee to Canada
>Germany takes all of Britain's colonies
>Austria retains its PU with Hungary but all other states are broken off as satellites
>Itlay is split between sydicalists and the Pope
>Russia is unstable and could fall to Bolsheviks
>the USA breaks into a three-way civil war between a MacArthur dictatorship of the United States of America, the Combined Syndicates of America under Jack Reed, and the facist American Union State under Huey Long
>Germany stands as a lone superpower with its satellites of Ukraine, Poland, the United Baltic Dutchy, Lithuania, and Flanders-Wallonia against a world of enemies
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Nobody?
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>>351966
Explain
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The problem with Kaiserreich is the American Civil War. It's just too retarded of a concept.
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>>351981
Have you actually played the mod? If not, I can explain further
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I would want to live in a world where Hitler wasn't a dumbass, listened to his extremely smart and efficient generals, allocated resources intelligently, and didn't fuck up in the east. I would love to live in a world under Nazi rule. There wouldn't be sand niggers running around blowing shit up, there wouldn't be this superficial Barbie world created by the media. The world would be a better place. This is coming from a non Jew, blond haired blue eyed person. I would be ok, and others alike. Wipe out the rest of the undesirables. Of course this answer is just part of your question OP.
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>>351988
You have to be 18 to post here
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>>351984
Yeah I've played many hours of the mod but I never found that war to be very plausible. Another big problem with the US is that they usually remain static after the civil war.
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>>351984
A second civil conflict really had no chance of happening at that time, despite the social unrest. The whole idea of a fascist dictatorship taking over via popular vote was the brainchild of Upton Sinclairs paranoid ramblings. He compared Huey Long to Adolf Hitler, which is in of itself kind of a stretch.

Still, the mods really fun and portrays the "what if" scenario well.
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>>352017
>Upton Sinclair
Shit, meant to say Sinclair Lewis, brainfart.
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U.S. without slavery, or if it was abolished really early on.
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>>351988
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>>352017
Long was a cunning, crafty idiot, but an idiot none-the-less. He was able to play the Louisiana legislature off each other to get what he wanted via corruption. His worst mistake was announcing a presidential bid, which made him an obvious target for anyone with a lick of sense and a loaded pistol.
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>>351883
>Ireland is united
>Britain is a republic

Wew, I'm tempted.
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>>352001
>>352017
Well if my knowledge of KR is right, the fall of Britain and France, as well as the German domination of global markets severely hurt the US economy during the 20's and 30's, leading to the radicalization of US politics with the "mainstream" entrance of the America First Union Party and Combined Sydicates of America Party (Father Coughlin's radio broadcasts on CBS get around 40 million listeners in game). FDR gets assassinated by an American Firster in 1935, with Douglas MacArthur taking over as a military dictator. With the massive depression of "Black Monday" in 1936, a chain of events was set off where they had enough and declared independence
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>>352092
>Ireland
Yes, Ireland took NI after Britain collapsed
>Britain
>Republic
No. Britain and France are basically commies
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>>351883
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>>353849
>Kaiserreich
>German-wank
Pick one
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>>351883
Why does Italy have Savoie?
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>Europeans create germ theory before discovering Americas
>Europeans realize they are the ones killing natives instead of natives being killed by God for not being Christian so Europeans don't charge in as brazenly into American population centers
>native cultures are given more respect (not much but a lot more than otherwise)
>a few kindly Europeans even try to help natives with vaccination programs
>Aztec civilization still dissolves but the Inca keep their royal line intact, but still mostly a puppet to the Spanish
>Amerindian oral history is kept largely intact
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>Pan-Hellenism after Persian War leads to an Greece wide league with Sparta and Athens in charge (each choses/elects a representative)
>Century of peace and slight squabbles ends with a unified national identity for the Greeks, with loyalty to the league over their polis
>league centralises more power and becomes a Greek ation state
>Expand and spread glorious hellenism all over Europe B)

Unrealistic, but it would have been cool.
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>>354039
After the Weltkrieg, Italy took Savoy and Nice (Nizza had a large Italian minority, and Italy had historical claims in Savoy) for itself
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>>351988
>blond haired blue eyed
I hate this meme

Hitler wanted the Jews to leave Europe, not dead. As a mischling, I'd happily live in a Nat-Soc Israel
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I like that large Bulgaria
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United States of greater Austria
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>>351883
That sounds like an awful, depressing world honestly
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>>351883
One where capitalism was overthrown
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>>351883

>Wallonia becoming part of Germany
>Limburg somehow not
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>>352166
I know, communism is inherently republican.
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>>354519
I wonder what the world would be like if Communist nations didn't have capitalist nations luring them off the path.
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>>354575
Glorious t b h comrade
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>>354582
>Russia suddenly industrializes and becomes an industrial power at the forefront of science and technology
>China suddenly becomes a political power after a century of inept rule
>the rights of women and minorities goes up significantly
Say what you want about the missteps of communist governments, but the revolution was real.
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dumb monarchist scum

behold the power of the worker
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>>354651
you disgusting pig
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>China is a fascist state governed by Nationalist Party, currently covertly supporting the fascist America
>Japan is another fascist state yet became more inept as the recent defeat in invasion on China severely shook the dictatorship of the militarists, and their power taken by the tycoons, who are no less radical than the militarists but without the expansionistic tendency
> The secret between Japanese and Chinese governments are that they started the propaganda warfare against each other as a facade, strong enough to keep the patriotic population to despise the common enemy thus obey their rules but weak enough to keep the Sino-Japanese diplomacy in Cold War manner
> The German Hong Kong is one of the most industrious regions in the world, having received Chinese immigrants escaping from Mainland oppression to make up her massive labor force and also being an entrepot to facilitate trade between the still market restrictive China and the rest of the world
> Russia, being an full-flung modernized constitutional monarchy, represented another international bloc that are anti-Syndicalist and anti-German
> The current nations that owned nuclear bombs are Russia, Germany, China, Japan, and Canada
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>>354651
The Minister of Intelligence is such an interesting choice.
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>>354741
Why would canada have nuclear bombs but not England, Usa, or any other nation with old ties to England such as Australia or New Zealand?
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>>354708
Here, this'll be more up your ally.

>>354747
He's part of the Anarchiste faction, presumabely to work against Stalinist-like political parties.
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>>351883
t. gsg
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>>354519
>>354575
>>354582
DONT BE SO NEGATIVE
DONT GIVE UP
THE RED FLAG WILL RULE
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>>352028
Change this to a US where African slaves were never imported, with blacks making up less than 1% of the population, and then we're talking.
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>>351883
>socialist britan and france
good shit
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>>354883
He's most likely referring to Kaiserreich. In Kaiserreich, the USA falls apart and Britian falls to communists. The British royalty, elite, and scientists flee to Canada.
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>>353849
>Kaiserriech before WWI with the rest of Lorraine
>grossdoucheland

Fuck off /gsg/
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>>355361
But the proletariat has shown that their completely fine with the bourgeoise oppressing them so long as they aren't inconvenienced.
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Alternate imperial Japan, any of these happen:
>Japan settles its differences with the Chinese nationalists and forms its own United Front with them in '37, purging communists from China; it is unnecessary to enter war with the Allies as additional resources are not needed
>Imperial Japan accepts its own Co-prosperity rhetoric and war atrocities are prevented; other Asian nations find the rhetoric easier to believe and the 1937 invasion is easier
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>>351883
Too bad they stopped working on the mod.
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If the Arabs confined themselves only in Arabia. A non Arabic Egypt and non Islamic Iran would have been interesting.
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>>352109
>Huey Long
>Fascist
I mean fucking why, not every populist is a fascist
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>>355770
It's not even that. Proletariat and Bourgeois are outdated.

A guy that owns a sandich shop controls the means of production, meanwhile a pro basket ball star does not not. The idea that pro basket ball stars are going to rebel because they are being oppressed by the sandwich shop owner is nuts.
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>>355929
>christian North Africa
>christian Mesopotamia
>completely hindu India
>Indonesia and Malesia remain pagan
>Central Asia and Xinjiang remain pagan/buddhist
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>>356116
Indonesia and Malaysia were hindu before the arrival of Islam.
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>>356116
>Buddhist North China, ruled by Mongol-based nomadic tribe that were heavily sinicized after ruling China, whilst believed in Central Asian Buddhist faith
>Taoist South China, ruled by Han nobles fled from North China, trade routes expanded to Middle East and Indonesia, the first nation to invent gunpowder weapon
>Not like both Chinas abandoned Confucianism, but the philosophy was so influential, it synthesised with the dominant religions, with a significant intellectual population remained distant to the beliefs with their own kind of Confucianism but not as radical as wanted to persecute the religions
>Egyptians still believed in Ra, yet their faith had synthesised with Zoroastrianism from Iran, and would develop the first constitutional monarchy which would be adopted worldwide
> Iran still retained the title of Persia, yet her empire is decaying, while the Zoroastrian priests and scholars had spread their faith to Middle East, India, Indonesia and East Asia
> In China there is a small sect of Confucian-synthesised Zoroastrianism, covertly expanding its branches to North and South, attempting to unite China under its faith
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>>356116
Imagine all the possibilities.

>Nestorian and Tengri Central Asia.
>Maybe Hinduism becomes even more popular popular than it was in Indonesia ?
>Maybe Afghanistan stays Buddhist and Hindu ?
>Persia would stay Zoroastrian.
>Africa either Christian or Pagan
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>>357963
Made a slightly better map.
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