Why is the contemporary political narrative that westerners owned slaves, instead of that westerners ended slavery?
Slavery was a horrid institution that existed even before written history began, even if Western Europeans and North Americans were trading and owning slaves up until the 00s it would still be a massive accomplishment and big step for humanity to have ended the practice, not something to be condemned for happening in the first place.
>>349436
Fairly sure the "narrative" is that most western countries both owned slaves and ended their slavery.
>>349453
My point is that people care that it happened in the first place, and not that we were ahead of pretty much everybody in getting rid of it (including using our global hegemony at the time to end it on other continents as well).
>>349595
>worst and most dehumanizing
I'd rather be a farmworker like 90% of the planet was in the 19th century than be locked up in a harem and be raped by hairy Turkish men for the best years of my life, thank you very much.
>>349617
Well if you were a black slave in north America during the antebellum south, you'd be locked up and raped by strange black men for the best years of your life.
>>349617
are you implying female slaves on plantations were not raped?
>>349436
Because the West made slavery into an institution, just like the West has made everything into institutions.
Institutions are a consequence of civilization. The only problem is that one some things get institutionalized, for whatever reason, it because almost immune to criticism, because it is propagandized as normal.
Just take a look what the average reactions are to someone who has an anti-statist stance in modern society for example, they are very quickly drummed down by arguments from emotion and authority reflexively, by "the mob".
The same can be said of Slavery in the West.
>>349453
this. stop cherrypicking OP
>>349665
Just let him feel like a victim.
>>349595
>The worst and most dehumanizing form of slavery, chattel slavery, was invented and expanded by westerners.
nigga there were civilizations whose entire existence is owed to the slave trade
>>351751
that is true but was that type of slavery that propped up those civilizations chattel type slavery in which the man who owned those slaves were entitled to those slave's children and in which there was little option to break free from bondage and integrate into society once that person was free?
>>349817
>My point is that people care that it happened in the first place, and not that we were ahead of pretty much everybody in getting rid of it (including using our global hegemony at the time to end it on other continents as well).
Confirmed for even worse reading comprehension since that wasn't implied.
>>349436
because it fits the black american narrative of muh ebil white man such as was depicted in that shitty television show the roots
Because anti white racism is real and rampant.
>>349629
Although amoral and horrendous, bestiality isn't rape.
>>349617
Feminists please go.
>>351798
Can you really blame blacks for harboring some resentment for American (or even Western slavery in general) slavery? It was the most dehumanizing slavery on the planet. Seriously blacks were not even regarded human for a long time and even after that long time they were only counted as 3/5 human... for political reasons
>>349659
>Because the West made slavery into an institution, just like the West has made everything into institutions.
Are you seriously implying the West was the civilization that first made slavery an institution? Africans were doing it to themselves for millennia, but the West only really got into slavery during the age of exploration.
>>349436
Because ancient slavery wasn't racist and didn't work on the assumption that one particular group of people, the blacks, were subhumans to enslave systematically and treat like dogs.
>>351969
I keep hearing that but was ancient slavery really any better than America's version? Are there any good sources that you can provide?
>>351979
Look up roman or greek slavery.
>>351818
>Can you really blame blacks for harboring some resentment for American (or even Western slavery in general) slavery?
Sure, it's a part of their heritage, and should be aware of it, but who are they resenting? I don't own slavery, nor has anyone in my family (Pennsylvania dutch, Norwegian, and german immigrants), so far back as I can trace our family came over in the mid to late 1800's.
So what resentment do I, or my family bear, for an institution we've never been a part of?
How about instead of being salty over shit that happened to other people, we acknowledge how far we've come and start working towards a brighter future.
>>351969
as opposed to the assumption that one particular group of people, kafirs, were subhumans to enslave systematically and treat like dogs?
>>349595
>was invented and expanded by westerners.
nope
>There is evidence of long histories of chattel slavery in the Nile river valley and Northern Africa, but evidence is incomplete about the extent and practices of chattel slavery throughout much of the rest of the continent prior to written records by Arab or European traders.[12]
>>352045
As true as that is, and with as much sense as that makes, there are still those in the black community that grew up in times in which they were still oppressed not by slavery, but by the legacy of slavery (Jim Crowe and more recently the disproportionate lockup of blacks as it pertains to drug offenses) and they convey those admittedly anti-white sentiments to their children who by and large still harbor those same feelings. So yeah instead of being salty we should acknowledge how far we've come, but for some that salt is in a wound that is just now starting to heal.
3rd century BC: Ashoka abolishes slave trade and encourages people to treat slaves well but does not abolish slavery itself in the Maurya Empire, covering the majority of India, which was under his rule.[1]
221-206 BC: The Qin Dynasty's measures to eliminate the landowning aristocracy include the abolition of slavery and the establishment of a free peasantry who owed taxes and labor to the state. They also discouraged serfdom.[2] The dynasty was overthrown in 206 BC and many of its laws were overturned.
17: Wang Mang, first and only emperor of the Xin Dynasty, usurped the Chinese throne and instituted a series of sweeping reforms, including the abolition of slavery and radical land reform. After his death in 23 A.D., slavery was reinstituted.[3][4]
~500: Slavery (or at least slave trading) ends in Ireland,[5] but resumes by the ninth century.[6]
960: Doge of Venice Pietro IV Candiano reconvened the popular assembly and had it approve of a law prohibiting the slave trade in the Italian city-state the Republic of Venice.
1080 William the Conqueror, of England and Duke of Normandy, prohibited the sale of anyone outside of his/the land or to heathens.
1102: Trade in slaves and serfdom condemned by the church in London: Council of London (1102).
1117: Slavery abolished in Iceland.[7]
1200: Slavery virtually disappears in Japan; it was never widespread and mostly involved captives taken in civil wars.[8]
1214: The Statute of the Town of Korčula (today in Croatia) abolishes slavery.[9]
1215: Magna Carta signed. Clause 30, commonly known as Habeas Corpus, would form the basis of a law against slavery in English common law.
~1220: The Sachsenspiegel, the most influential German code of law from the Middle Ages, condemns slavery as a violation of God's likeness to man.[10]
1256: The Liber Paradisus is promulgated. The Comune di Bologna abolishes slavery and serfdom and releases all the serfs in its territories.
Look how many times people abolished it but cocked it up again.
>>352137
>Look how many times people abolished it but cocked it up again.
Its almost like there will always be a market for cheap labor.
>>351812
>>349436
Because North American slavery is unique in the history of slavery for the displacement and development of a culture and ethnicity of slaves and ex-slaves. Unlike other slave populations throughout history, the African American has almost no connection with his or her ancestral home.
