Who were the good guys and who were the bad guys?
Short term optimates though Caesar ended up paving the way for Imperium so he ended up being the good guy.
Populares if they weren't power hungry 90% of the time.
Optimates trampled all over the plebs in regards to land rights all the time for their own gain.
>>1427798
Populares.
Tiberius Gracchus did nothing wrong.
>>1427798
> he hasn't transcended good/bad dichotomy!
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>>1427823
>he doesn't have an opinion on Roman politics
>>1427798
Any government that doesn't keep its plebs in line is basically worthless.
Death to populist scum.
>>1427798
>Patricians (people who had a stake in the financial and political succes of the Republic)
To what degree is that even true? Entrenched elites can, and often do, make suboptimal choices for the state that are optimal for themselves as individuals or their direct associates and family.
In the end it's a matter of corruption. Populists and democrats ideally embody the volonté générale but it easily devolves into the volonté de tous, while optimates and aristocrats ideally look out for the benefit of the state but instead often look out for number one first and foremost.
If your question is who the "bad guys" were, the question isn't comparing ideology A to ideology B: both are solid. The answer is which one of the two is less corrupt. That means going into the personal details of these two men and how they ruled.
Personally in broad strokes I consider myself Republican, but I'd gladly follow a man like Napoleon or St. Louis as my monarch.
>>1427818
He ruined fucking everything m8
