Is it possible to prove that you exist?
Cogito ergo sum
I think so
I know that my mind is real because it perceives information
>>1400872
Top kek.
I dont care if im not real. If im not the question wont matter so its not worth answering.
>>1400904
How about a practical experiment?
We all meet up somewhere and take turns kicking you in the shin while you do your damnedest best to pretend we don't exist.
Who cares as long as I can watch my animu
>>1400870
Only proves that thought exists.
>>1401132
And thought is me.
>>1400910
>I don't care if God exists, it's childish anyway - it doesn't matter.
Sounds familiar?
>>1401137
Only if you define "me" as "thought that exists in one microinstant" and does not factor in anything else, including identity or anything else traditionally associated with it, at which point you may as well just leave the definition as "thought."
>>1400966
You are certainly welcome to try, just be warned I my try out my less than logical proof of the AR-15
>>1400904
What do you mean it presupposes reason?
People I have WATCHED people fat people EXPLODE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bMpFWNVAVc
>>1401436
this is how i know I exitst
>>1401150
i think that that definition of "me" is fine
>>1400904
How can an unreasonable entity exist without existing?
I think we've proven that we exist during the present
The problem is proving that we have previously existed and/or continue to exist after this moment
>>1401459
Like fictional character? You can write all of their thoughts, doesn't mean that they are one who is doing cogito.
>>1401467
Ok, so lets suppose their is a creator of some kind, external to this reality
That creator puts a bunch of variables, constants and algorithms in place to create a reality. He presses play on reality and watches it grow from a "big bang". The first piece of information that is processed through a "mind" is the first "thought". That first thought is the result of a set of predetermined values that were seemingly randomly amalgamated as reality progressed down its timeline. That thought is then not original from the mind of the thinker because the thinker did nothing to create that thought other than exist. He supposedly did not create himself so he cannot claim originality.
With all that in mind, he still exists within his reality.
The fictional character still exists within his story.
>>1401436
I kek therefor I am.
(holy shit, my sides...)
>>1401490
there*
fuck me
>>1401490
Well, some could argue that characters actually exist only in the minds of a audience, not in the story itself. Like there is only pepe in a pictures when someone look at them. Without a viewers imagination there are only blobs of paint. *You* could be the same imaginative entity close to a non-existence by all standards except the most broad ones, like that where everything just exist.
>>1401514
Am I the hero or the villain of this story?
>>1401540
I'm fairly certain we're both NPC's.
...and I don't even have a good item shop.
But I gave out a quest, once.
>>1401436
buena
>>1400860
We don't know.
>>1401514
Are you saying things don't exist when no one perceives them?
>>1400904
>thinking about whether your thoughts exist
>>1400860
And you wonder why people make fun of philosophy students.
>>1401300
Yes we get it. More guns = wez all be safer guies
>>1400860
is it possible to prove proof of existence?
>>1400860
Only to yourself.
What do you mean by "you" and "exist"? What would it take for it to be proven, and to whom?
>>1400860
Scientifically yes, philosophically no.
>>1400860
Who's asking?
>>1400860
you exist within your own imagination and universe and with those who coincide with you
>>1402913
Cogito ergo sum?
>>1402592
Lmao this. I'm not going to look down on philosofags like others here do but you guys are so far up in the clouds it's ridiculous.
Define definitions >
Define exist >
Patterns + context
???
"contemplate"
"Ask"
"Questions"
"Do I exist"
"Desired awnser?"
"Premise > existing is good"
"Good"
Context
"Pattern"
Perspective, etc
>>1400860
Do you truly not understand the concept of cogito ergo sum? You know that you are thinking. Whether free will is an illusion, or whether you are just plugged into the matrix and this world isn't real doesn't matter. For you to experience your thoughts there has to exist something that does the experiencing, that something is you.
>>1404407
It's enjoyable up here
>>1401141
sure familiar but it still is not something worth caring about.
>>1400860
Reject the two times two equals four, prove that you are alive
>>1400860
counter point: Is it possible to prove that I don't exist?
"I think therefore I am"
I believe that because we have the ability to think, either by free will or not, then we have to exist. Even if we are in a "Matrix" setting or if we are all a figment of someone else's imagination. We exist in some form, maybe just not in the reality we perceive.
>>1400860
Yes. Touch yourself. Again.
>>1400860
Who are you proving it to?
I find it is impossible to prove anything because the other person is always free to just ignore what you said.
>>1402680
>we are going to assault you because you have undercut our new age philosophies
>we will defame you and make you look like a retard for defending yourself and not letting us attack you
Stay mad, cuck.
>>1404407
>I'm not going to look down on philosofags
But we are going to look down on you...
If you looked down on us, you'd be seeing things, if we looked down on you, we are merely opening our eyes.
Come on up the weather is fine.
>>1402592
>presupposing you can discern a thought or even that you are thinking without presupposing a method of discernment
Your brute forms refutation wont work on me, Johnson!
t. not Hume
>>1400860
Probably not but everything else acts as if I do exist, so in practice it is as if I do exisy
>>1400860
who cares if i dont? im having an alright time regardless
>>1400860
Prove? Yeah, observation.
Yes I exist.
If you're in doubt of this I can kick you in the nuts until you're convinced I'm real.
>>1409628
You don't exist.
Since I am not being kicked in the nuts right now, I've proved you don't exist. :)
I would say that me being able to perceive myself as existing is enough proof. The real question is if anything outside my own self exists.
>>1409648
Actually if I wasn't real I would be able to phase wherever to punch you in the nuts.
My being unable to know where you and your balls are is proof of my independence from your own consciousness.
>>1409655
But your posts could very well be merely auto-generated text by some computer somewhere, for all I know, non-existent person :)
>>1400860
It doesn't actually matter if we exist or not. What matters is that we think we exist, but whether it's actually true or not is irrelevant.
>>1400904
>presupposes reason
So? Every proof needs axioms, and you can't coherently deny reason
>>1410075
What do you mean?
