Did the British military really play an important role in WW2?
It seems like all they did was fuck up tactically, allow millions of their subjects to starve, and help patch American gaps in intelligence.
muh finest hour
Stopped the Germans controlling middle eastern oil fields, forced them to waste resources in Western and Southern Europe, and essentially negated their navy.
We did perform terribly, but our most important contribution was just being there and not succumbing.
>>1379297
Battle of Britain, D-Day/invasion of France, North Africa, enigma code, etc... What the fuck are you talking about?
>>1379301
Lel Churchill was such an inept wanker
That's fine for the royal navy but you can't have have a retard running the whole country
>>1379314
>We did perform terribly, but our most important contribution was just being there and not succumbing.
Not being conquered is like the bare minimum expected from any belligerent party in any war.
>El Alamein
>Bletchley Park
>Air superiority
>More successful on Normandy beaches
>Commando units
>Tricked Yanks into joining the war with propaganda films
>Stayed independent, allowing all allied operations, including those from conquered states, to be based here.
Nah we were pretty important, especially compared to other European countries. Maybe slightly overrated, but not as much as Yanks are among the general public.
>>1379297
Not really
They sent their army on the continent in 1940 but it cowardly fled at the first sight of Germans
Then they cowered on their islands until the US entered the war and turned their island into an US base for the landings afterward
>>1379320
You didn't trick us; we wanted in. We flagged some of your ships ffs.
Churchill wrote in his memoirs that when the US entered the war, he got his first good night's sleep since the hostilities started, knowing that with the US, the allies would win the war. Eventually.
>>1379322
>Germany calling us cucks
They really were ahead of their time
>>1379326
I was being facetious, but the public were not on side, you're thinking of the govt.
A lot of Britain's efforts were done on the Periphery, and were essential to the war effort.
contributions include:
>breaking the Enigma code, relaying all decoded messages to the allies.
>inflicting irreplaceable losses on the Luftwaffe at the battle of Britain
>Victory at El Alamein and North Africa, denying the Germans/Italians access to the Suez Canal and middle eastern oil.
>control of the seas, keeping the shipping lanes protected from U-boat activity in the Atlantic and fighting of Japanese raids in the Pacific.
>the Burma campaign, defeating Japan at the borders of India.
sure there's more, but these are the most notable.
>>1379343
There was a time when Britain stood alone against the evils of the world, and for that, the world should be grateful.
>>1379349
>>the Burma campaign, defeating Japan at the borders of India.
Come on now lad
They lost becaust most of them starved before they even reached India
>>1379297
Still managed to pull off a functional victory against the Germans on their own though.
>>1379349
>breaking the Enigma code, relaying all decoded messages to the allies.
>inflicting irreplaceable losses on the Luftwaffe at the battle of Britain
They had massive amounts of help from other countries in both of those. Poland especially; their cryptographers were the first to crack Enigma in 1932 and the Polish 301st fighter wing alone inflicted over a tenth of the German losses in the battle of Britain.
>>1379358
>muh gud and ebil
>>1379404
>they had some help so they deserve absolutely no credit
do you know how absurd this sounds?
>>1379424
That's not the point. They couldn't have done it alone, at least not as well.
>>1379358
There was a time where Britain cowered on their island waiting to pull their former colony which had surpassed them in every way into the war, and the fact that we bothered to bail their dumb asses out should leave them forever grateful.
>>1379317
What role did those troops actually play?
Britain had their shit pushed in by Japan and was even trounced by Italy in Africa.
>>1379358
10 million Bengalis starved
>>1379531
Japan overrunning Burma will do that to ya.
>>1379470
>was even trounced by Italy in Africa.
Are you talking about that time when 2 British divisions defeated 10 Italian divisions and took like 100k prisoners of war?
>>1379297
strategic bombing and they helped exhuast the german war machine, they also provided alot of manpower and a staging point for the assualt on normandy
they also fucked around alot in africa messing with the germans
>>1379322
YANKED
>>1379319
Well considering this is the war where France, which had a bigger military, failed to accomplish even that, England did ok.
t. burger
>Enigma
Even if our island was invaded and occupied, the very fact we cracked that code won the war in a sense.
Just ship it off to the US and Soviet Union before we're absolutely destroyed.
Thankfully we didn't have to do that
>>1379430
Could any of the allies except CCCP have done it alone?
>>1379470
Implying the Pacific Theatre meant dick.
Well.
The Brits gave themselves the biggest piece of the pie in Holland and failed miserably at it.
>couldn't hold their bridge
>couldn't break through with their tanks
Monty was a hack.
>>1380202
US if it was willling to endure even half as great a loss in men and material as the Soviets did.
>>1379349
>inflicting irreplaceable losses on the Luftwaffe at the battle of Britain
Isn't it historically accepted that if Hitler hadn't gotten impatient, the RAF would have been broken by the Luftwaffe targetting their airfields? Instead they got ordered to attack the cities and the high-altitude BF-109s lost their advantage over the British fliers because they were ordered down to screen the bombers.
>>1380084
>t. burger
A good Burger always knows to capitalize His name. Get out you spy.
2bh the Canadians fought harder than the English did.
>there are still
>STILL
>englanders who will insist that they actually did something in the Pacific theater to help
Why did they wear such a silly helmet? No wonder nobody took them seriously, it's even worse than the GDR helmet.
>>1379531
And who avenged them again?
>>1380394
>Isn't it historically accepted that if Hitler hadn't gotten impatient, the RAF would have been broken by the Luftwaffe targetting their airfields?
No, actually it's accepted that the version you presented is a stupid meme.
>>1380408
kettle pot helmets were the inspiration. Never mind that Lobster pot helmets were better and still had distinct history in english armies.
>>1380413
source?
>>1380409
US marines under MacArthur?
>>1380416
Try Overy's Battle of Britain, it's a short digest version that shows very clearly that the RAF was always gaining strength.
Furthermore Germany moved away from targeting military installations to cities because they wanted to draw out the RAF and destroy it. Their fighters were never "screening" whatever you think that must mean in the context of air escort. German fighters' primary goal was to go hunting for RAF fighters that scrambled.
>>1379320
>Tricked Yanks into joining the war with propaganda films
>>1380549
>not knowing that The Eternal Anglo did Pearl Harbour
>>1380409
Ghandi I guess?
>>1379358
There was a time when Canada declared war on Japan a full 24 hours before the United States did.
>>1380660
there was a time when Canadians weren't jealous of other nations' glory
>>1380168
Sorry to disappoint you, but Poles cracked it first, even send prototype of machine.
>>1379430
It's very rare I see a Britbong say "we could've won the war singlehandedly" the way the Americans do. Most just try to argue they weren't as useless as dickwaving Americans like to say they are.
>>1380714
The poles cracked the first version. The Germans basically plugged that in 1938 and made it considerably more complex. This version was in common use by 1940 when the British cracked it.
Sorry Polebro, you can't take credit for this one. You contributed, though.
>>1380772
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine
>On 26 and 27 July 1939,[3] in Pyry near Warsaw, the Poles initiated French and British military intelligence representatives into their Enigma-decryption techniques and equipment, including Zygalski sheets and the cryptologic bomb, and promised each delegation a Polish-reconstructed Enigma. The demonstration represented a vital basis for the later British continuation and effort.[4]
>>1381365
>wikipedia as a source
>specifically, the mobile wiki
step it up pole
>>1379297
Supporting effort during the initial battle of France.
Main effort during battle of Britain (duh).
Main effort during North African camaign
Supporting effort Sicilian and Italian campaigns.
Supporting effort during Invasion of Normandy and the western front campaign till ze German surrender.
Supporting effort in the Pacific.
>>1381394
>Supporting effort in the Pacific.
That was the Aussies, lad.
>>1381425
He said supporting you dingus
>>1379320
Uh guy, the US entered WW2 because Japan bombed Pearl Harbor and Germany declared war on it 2 days later.
>>1379404
>the Polish 301st fighter wing alone inflicted over a tenth of the German losses in the battle of Britain.
Lol k.
Anyway the reason Britain really won the Battle of Britain and stopped Germany in its tracks was mainly thanks to the invasion of the radar. After that the German Luftwaffe couldn't resist against British bombings which caused a serious blow to Germany's industry.
>>1382145
>After that the German Luftwaffe couldn't resist against British bombings which caused a serious blow to Germany's industry.
I'm a Brit and that's a load of rubbish. Strategic bombing was never particularly effective for either us or the Yanks, and the fact we did it at night made it wildly inaccurate.
>>1382174
>Strategic bombing was never particularly effective for either us or the Yanks
This is a meme propagated by pacificist apologist academics who want to push their agenda of painting the strategic bombing as ebul war crimes. Strategic bombing was devastatingly effective and became near paralyzing when the Allies 1. ramped it up a fuckton and 2. concentrated on communication and petrol near the end.
>>1382174
>I'm a Brit and that's a load of rubbish.
Yeah me too. Considering how bad British history education is I don't think you should expect that statement to carry too much weight.
>Strategic bombing was never particularly effective for either us or the Yanks
400'000-600'000 dead Germans isn't particularly effective to you?
>and the fact we did it at night made it wildly inaccurate.
Wow gee whizz ya don't say. But considering the sheer number of bombs that were dropped on each square mile of a German city in the average bombing run, the fact that the single bombs in their own were inaccurate seems like a pretty irrelevant factor.
>>1379430
No one could have won the war alone, you dumb yank fuck.
>>1379297
Not in popular perception. When people think "D-Day" they think of Americans. Except Americans landed on Utah and Omaha while Sword and Gold were taken by British and Juno - by Canadians. This is very characteristic for Western front in general where everybody remembers about Americans while British, Commonwealth and various forces "on exile"(Poles, French etc.) are forgotten.
>>1382251
Juno was taken by British commandos with Canadian support.
OH SNAP -> MORE UK TROOPS ON D DAY THAN AMERICANS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normandy_landings#Allied_order_of_battle
American zones
Commander, First Army (United States): Lieutenant General Omar Bradley[71]
The First Army contingent totalled approximately 73,000 men
British and Canadian zones
Commander, Second Army (Britain and Canada): Lieutenant General Sir Miles Dempsey[71]
Overall, the Second Army contingent consisted of 83,115 men, 61,715 of them British.[12]
>>1379297
>Did the British military really play an important role in WW2?
>It seems like all they did was fuck up tactically, allow millions of their subjects to starve, and help patch American gaps in intelligence.
Quit memeing and read a fucking book OP.
This isn't /b/ or /pol/.
>>1382471
WW2 is the national religion in England but you have to admit that the UK did extremely little in terms of direct action
>>1380772
Poland so desperately tries to be relevant.
>>1382244
>No one could have won the war alone
Before the summer of 45'?
No.
After?
I beg to differ, my irate, toothless fat friend.
>>1383140
To be fair the Poles took it in the ass during WW2.
>>1382461
>MORE UK TROOPS ON D DAY THAN AMERICANS
>American zones, First Army (United States): approximately 73,000 men
>British zones: 61,715 of them British.[12]
>MORE UK TROOPS THAN AMERICAN
>61,000 BRITS
>73,000 AMERICANS
>MORE
>61,000
>73,000
British math.
I guess now you're going to argue that Canadians are somehow "British"...
>>1383207
I wonder how things would've turned out if Germany or Russia had the bombs.
>>1383240
We'd have been alright.
Europe, and the U.K., would've been fucked...
>>1380408
something something airburst
something shrapnel something
>>1379297
Best thing Britian did in the war was bring Canadians and Australians to the party.
>>1383231
They took it in the ass afterwards as well, to our eternal shame. Funny considering the original objective of the war was to liberate them
>>1379297
They did nothing but fucking use and waste American rations. It's amazing Britiain is still a sovereign considering their debt to the United States.
>>1383272
Another pair of useless memes
>>1383231
And before WWII. And after WWII.
>>1380394
>Isn't it historically accepted that if Hitler hadn't gotten impatient, the RAF would have been broken by the Luftwaffe targetting their airfields? Instead they got ordered to attack the cities and the high-altitude BF-109s lost their advantage over the British fliers because they were ordered down to screen the bombers.
It's not. It's a myth. Seriously - even wikipedia covers it pretty much. The RAF was getting stronger throughout the BoB, the LW was getting weaker. The Brits thought they were in a tough spot, the Germans thought they would be getting the upper hand - but in fact it was the exact opposite.
>>1380202
>the CCCP could have done it alone
they didn't even have trucks till the US gave them several ten thousands of them.
>>1383445
>they didn't even have trucks till the US gave them several ten thousands of them.
they did
>>1383451
nuh uh
>>1379297
I think they contributed fairly. When the rest of Europe was getting btfo (France) Churchill kept them in the fight. They didn't let the Luftwaffe win in the Battle of Britain and they kept the German Navy relatively at bay in the Atlantic. Their campaigns in the Middle East and Africa forced the Germans to use up reaources and manpower while they negated them access to oil. From the Fall of France to Barbarossa they were the only real Allied power still fighting. They contributed to the Pacific War in Burma and were heavily involved in D-Day and the resulting drive towards Germany on the Western Front of the European theater.
Note: I am a Burger and still think they were a huge part of the Allies.
>>1379695
Underrated post
>First country to defeat the Axis and eject them from an entire theatre of war
>destroy or neutralise the German, Italian and Vichy French fleets
>stop the Germans getting Middle-East oil thus ensuring their defeat
>Dominate the Atlantic, Mediterranean, Arctic Oceans
>hamstring the Luftwaffe
>bomb the shit out of German industrial areas
>break the unbreakable Enigma cyphers on a daily basis
>Tube Alloys project gives massive boost to atom bomb development
>make huge technological advances available to the allies for free (see the Tizard Commission)
>invent Special Forces, copied by everyone
>plan and execute D-Day and provide most of the troops, ships and planes
Well, the British-indian army inflicted the biggest defeat ever (until the Russians invaded Manchuria) on the Japanese army, much bigger than anythign the US achieved with its vastly greater numbers and resources.
>>1383425
Total myth. There was only one occasion when a bombed RAF airfield was out of action for more than 24 hours. Ever seen one? Just a huge expanse of grass with a few hut-like buildings dotted about. Bombing the airfields was a mug's game and the Luftwaffe paid a heavy price in experienced aircrew. The rest were pushed to breaking point.
>>1383123
>WW2 is the national religion in England
>what is our NHS
Why do British play up the African campaign like it's something to be proud of? An outnumbered, vastly undersupplied, mainly Italian army whipped the shit out of the British over and over until they forced them into situations where they literally couldn't lose.
The French and aussies performed well in africa. Imagine manstein or someone with real skill in Africa and not rommel
>>1384252
You need to read more and post less, friend. Preferably a lot less.
>>1383701
>Implying it wasn't the Americans who drove them out of Africa
>can guarantee you lose alemein without American lend lease so really an American victory
>the bombing of Germany was mainly carried out by US Air crews
Face it Britain you were our little buddy that only didn't lose because of water
>being proud of g beating the tiny German navy, the incompetent Italians and bombing and unprepared French fleet in port
WEW
>>1384275
Tell me where I'm wrong? The axis never outnumbered the British in any capacity and suffered constantly from lack of supplies. Italians made up the majority of afrika korps. Tell me Nigel what am I wrong about? Montgomery was the only smart one there who forced rommel to fight him when only he had all the advantages.
>axis at alemein
>outnumbered in every category
>tanks and vehicles had less than 48 hours of fuel at most
>far away from supplies and with Americans on the way in
STUNNING VICTORY WE ARE THE HEROES
>>1382198
Is it still strategic in nature if specific industries are being targeted that are directly linked to the war effort? Always took it that strategic bombing was essentially terror bombing intended to wipe out the population and devastate cities regardless of what was being produced in them (although I'm sure there is substantial crossover in practice)
Max Hastings:
>The British Army was just not very good. I was talking the other day to a very distinguished military historian who also fought with distinction in Italy and he said to me, when I came back from the war I always promised myself that I would never tell anybody just how bad the British Army was. He said I never forgot the sight when we landed at Salerno of seeing men of the Durham Light Infantry who had only been in action for 2 days, just cowering in the bottom of their trench and refusing to come out, and we just looked at them and we couldn’t believe that a battalion which had not suffered that many casualties, that had just been shelled and mortared for a couple of days, had just sort of given up. And even today people are reluctant to acknowledge, in a way that knowing soldiers like Field Marshall Lord Carver, whom I used to spend many hours talking to about this, that although bits of the British Army in World War 2 got pretty good towards the end, the British Army as an institution was a disaster in World War 2. It was the Royal Navy and the Royal Air Force that earnt most of the laurels.
>>1383607
Can the USSR be considered allies?
Battle of england and north africa (because italians were even worst)
Intelligence did a great work too.
The rest was fucked. Their time was over.
>>1382254
Oh fuck off you jealous british cuckold
you won't even accept that our tankers were better than yours
>>1380408
They replaced them with less goofy looking MK III helmets in time for Normandy.
>>1384353
Not the guy you're responding to, but the industry bombing vs terror bombing is something that both the USAAF and Bomber command dithered over both against each other and "in house" for pretty much the entire war.
But in most definitions of the word, attempting to knock out things like production centers is still under the heading of "strategic bombing", unless it's bombing transportation networks that the military is using, at which point it's "interdiction bombing".
But, for instance, the oil campaign in 1944 is almost universally considered strategic ombing.
>>1382174
>>1384353
Strategic bombing knocked out an estimated 20-30% of all war materiel produced by Germany in the war. Either through direct destruction, repair costs, interruption and destruction of materiel being produced and potential output disabled or otherwise delayed by the destruction of factories, shipping lines or refinement centers. The campaign against Oil had reduced, by wars end, synthetic oil production to less than 10% of what had been produced in 1941.
Not to mention the quite literal tens of thousands of guns re purposed or outright built for AA and AAA work, the hundreds of thousands of men relegated to AA duty, the involvement of over half the Luftwaffe to the Western Front in an attempt to stop the bombing, and the massive housing crisis that Germany faced as millions became homeless.
The strategic bombing campaign was monstrously effective. Completely inhumane, cruel, and effective. It crippled the German war machine before it could even enter a battlefield.
It quite literally burnt Japan to the ground.
>>1380408
What's being born in the 2000's?
>>1385224
Not either of them, but espeically in terms of Luftwaffe and AA forces redirected to combat it though, you have to look at the American day bombing efforts and not what the British were doing.
Also, strategic bombing's impact on direct production was disproportionately felt late in the war, and I mean, post D-Day late, when basing bombers in France circumvented the bulk of the radar defenses that Germany constructed early and pre-war.
By that point though, the writing was on the wall, and even without its effects, the Allies were pretty much certain to win.
>>1385249
The war would have certainly been a bit bloodier and longer without the bombing, however. A lot of its effects were felt directly on the battlefield as well.
Germany sent 19 King Tigers west, they survived a couple days of battle before a bomber raid destroyed 17 of them, the two surviving Tiger Royals put up a bit of a fight but were quickly recalled as the Germans realized they were going to lose France fast and hard.
Bombing was never going to win the war on its own like some of its proponents claimed, but what it did was make winning the war a whole lot more favorable.
>>1381365
Yes. How does that contradict what I said?
I acknowledged Polish contribution, but the cracking of the Enigma by the Brits was cracking a far more complex machine than the one the Poles cracked. The extra rotors multiplied the difficulty of cracking it by orders of magnitude.
>>1385249
Strategic bombers were not based in France.
>>1380236
>surrendered at Singapore despite outnumbering Japs more than 2 to 1
>getting their shit pushed in in Burma
>Brits looking so helpless even Australia realized it had to look to America if it wanted help
>"i-it wasn't important anyway!"
>>1382174
>I'm a Brit and that's a load of rubbish. Strategic bombing was never particularly effective for either us or the Yanks, and the fact we did it at night made it wildly inaccurate.
You being british has nothing to do with you being ignorant. Strategic bombing of german industrial centers had a major and deciding effect on the outcome of the war.
>>1384291
>The axis never outnumbered the British in any capacity
I'm dying here. Is this a new fresh meme?
>>1379317
Dunkirk
>>1383451
Outstanding argument
>>1384252
>italians
>kicking Wavell's ass
>when the academically accepted narrative was that wavell was btfoing the italians despite being hamstrung by British armor doctrine
>>1386145
>>1379297
more important than Americans desu
I wonder if former Axis countries have this constant bickering about who contributed more to the war effort.
>>1380084
>bigger military
You mean an entire generation who've grown up with parents scarred by the war?
Ah yes, who cares about motivation or even the fact that the leader of the country wanted to join the other side, its all about military SIZE
>>1382174
well it wasnt really strategic. Brits bombed everything. No northern/western city with +100k was untouched, wether they had an industry or not.
>>1383701
>>Dominate the Atlantic, Mediterranean, Arctic Oceans
That's cool. America dominated the Pacific, where actual navies were fighting and invented modern naval warfare while we were at it.
>>1380084
France was in shambles at the time.
>>1379297
Britain's biggest contribution to the war effort was;
Bletchly parks enigma
Maintaining the British empire, so that the Axis could not get their hands on it
Continuing the political fight against the Nazi's in 1940, when all thought it was folly
Supporting the U.S.S.R between the Nazi invasion and the American entry into the war
enabling the U.S. to get a forward base in W.Europe
Enabling strategic bombing to take place.
Overall; Britain's inclusion in the war shortened it by maybe 3-4 years, and denied the Axis chances of a military victory, although they were not completely necessary to Allied victory.
>>1386861
RAF dropped a higher tonnage of bombs on Germany than the USAAF.
>>1379337
kek
>>1380236
Confirmed for retarded.
>>1387251
USAAF didn't exist back then, nerd.
>>1379404
>be potato farmer
>crack enigma code
>kill fritz in his messerschmid and defend england from german occupation
>diligently work a menial job for low pay to service the british economy
>get thrown out
wew
>>1388268
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Air_Forces
>>1380414
If anything the French Adrian helmet bears more resemblance to medieval kettle helmets than Brodie.
>>1390001
"kettle helmets" was a pretty broad field. More importantly, the rim of the Adrian was turned down too much, where the original kettle helm's rim was intended to catch swings from cavalry weapons.
The Adrian is more based off this pattern of helmets, of which I cannot for the life of me remember the general name of.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragoon_helmet
Note the down-turned rim, larger dome for the head, and ornamental crest. All key design features of the Adrian which the kettle helmet lacks.
>>1379297
The British helped tremendously with the Frank resistance fighters. They dropped a good tonnage of supplies such as food, water, ammo, guns, and even explosives to résistance fighters. Not to mention training, scouting, as well as escorting out high risk individuals from France and Germany.
They did alot more than you think.
>>1380408
When they've picked their helmet shape during WW2 this was the design that could've been produced very quickly and offered decent protection for its weight(it was slightly more resistant than Adrian while being lighter than stahlhelm).
As all steel helmets it was inspired by medieval helmets, in this instance kettle helmet.
In case of Germans it was sallet and in case of French... well I don't recall correctly but you get the point.
Basically back in the times, steel helmets came back after like 200 years of absence so nobody really knew how should modern helmet look like to protect the best, on top of it, they were needed FAST as WW1 raged.
Here's good book about it in case you're interested in the topic.
https://archive.org/stream/helmetsbodyarmor00deanuoft#page/n347/mode/2up
>>1390120
>When they've picked their helmet shape during WW2
WW1* sorry
>>1380671
No there wasn't.
>>1379368
The BIA was in a pretty bad position after the retreat from burma. If the Japanese had reached India proper like east bengal or even calcutta, the raj would be as dead as a dodo
>>1383272
you mean the british raj right?
>>1379297
Are we talking strictly the aisles or the entire empire. Both are prety important but one is significantly more important.
>>1382251
Considering the logistical nightmare utah and omaha were i think its deserved
>>1386219
Underrated post
Are you guys always bickering like this? This is my first time on /his/ and I was hoping for some interesting debate with facts, but so much of this just sounds like the equivalent of broscience and console wars.
>>1379437
during this period where the british were apparently 'cowering' they were also organising and supplying resistance movements across europe and fighting 2 major land campaigns in africa and asia as well as sending bombers to attack the germans every damn day that the weather permitted
>>1379531
combination of crap harvest, and the fact that even in good years bengal imported most of its food from burma, a practice the japanese were disinclined to allow to continue. britain did all that could be expected to deal with the famine eventually ending it by compelling the state governments (locally elected and indian run) of several neighbouring states to release some of their food surplus to the bengalis
>>1380382
intelligence failure, they didnt expect their to be a SS panzer division sitting on the fucking drop site, that and the american failure at one of their bridges delayed the armored advance.
as for monty was a hack, the guy masterminded the normandy campaign, perfromed extremely well in clearing the reichswald and crossing the rhine, handled his role in north africa and scily very well and did outstandingly in all aspects of the battle of the bulge except for press briefing
>>1382174
>and the fact we did it at night made it wildly inaccurate.
not notably more so than american daylight bombing once navigation aids came online, and the fact our bombers dropped a lot more per plane helped
>>1386219
Nope because its pretty obvious
>>1379320
>>More successful on Normandy beaches
Canadians we're the most successful
>>1390411
I too wish for proper conversation gentlesir but these buffoons don't engage with me!
Tis' a shame there is no downvote
>>1382244
>No one could have won the war alone, you dumb yank fuck.
The US had the potential to do so. It would have beem a longer war tho.
>>1385723
Australians loose battles and it's Britain's fault?
>>1380408
I always thought the British uniform as well as the helmet in WW2 looked utter, utter shit.
t. Brit
FUNNY ISN'T IT?
FUNNY ISN'T IT?
Yes
Pic very related
>>1384278
>We gave you supplies so actually we won
Is this genuinely what Americans believe?
>>1392454
No, what we actually believe is that the U.K. did little more than exploit their allies in a vain attempt to maintain control of what little was left of their shitty "empire".
>>1379470
Italy? Really? You're an idiot.
>>1380202
CCCP couldn't have done it alone, you commie suck hole.
>>1386196
More trolling bullshit.
>>1387251
But they dropped yankee bombs.
>>1380566
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