What is fascism?
>>1307202
baby dont hurt me
>>1307202
Getting a loan from the bank, to buy a gun, to rob the same bank.
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
3. Identification of Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
4. Supremacy of the Military
5. Rampant Sexism
6. Controlled Mass Media
7. Obsession with National Security
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
9. Corporate Power is Protected
10. Labour Power is Suppressed
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
13. Rampant Corruption
14. Fraudulent Elections
Are you a telepath? I was just thinking about this at roughly the same time this thread was made.
>>1307213
This.
If it is changed compared to as it is now:
This commonly welcome ordinance
wholeness
Not being burdened by other peoples properties
Nativity, localities
⇒ It doesn't scare anyone. On the contrary
⇒ A non evil view like other politics is
>>1307221
>unironically saying this to that load of bullshit
/his/ everybody
>>1307202
Everything you don't like or do like
Why wouldn't this be this typical fascistic or right wing job to watch over? Like the left has it things in that respect?
⇒ Watching over the church. making sure it doesn't do irreal things. This is important in general because God does exist and if the church makes such a mistake, this is worthless.
>>1307213
t. antifa drugtard
>>1307203
You win everything
>>1307213
I feel like this is not fascism. Some of those do describe fascism, but others no.
>labor suppressed
Nope. I don't know about Italian fascism, but national socialism put huge emphasis on workers
>disdain for intellectuals and the arts
It supported a reinvigoration of art and intellectualism.
>disdain for human rights
Nope
>rampant sexism
Germany in this period was filled with high ranking women more so than capitalist countries
Fascism just means "bound-together-in-unity-ism"
The third form of Socialism!
>>1307251
> It supported a reinvigoration of art and intellectualism.
That is why leading intellectuals kind of decided to abandon Germany?
>>1307213
So we live in a fascist society? Neat.
Socialism for fools
>>1307251
>nope
So the invasion of other countries and genocide of Jews wasn't a violation of human rights?
>>1307266
It was perfectly legal, Hitler even signed the law.
>>1307202
The reactionaries' response to the 20th century
>>1307269
That doesn't mean it's not a violation of human rights
>>1307251
>Nope. I don't know about Italian fascism, but national socialism put huge emphasis on workers
They also banned all trade unions not run by the state.
Also, sorry for asking, but would you say the Soviet Union can't be said to have suppressed workers as well because they put a big emphasis on them?
>>1307213
>disdain for art
>elections
>Hitler
>corporate power protected
>nigger it's used to better the nation
>religion
>government
>intertwined
>>1307202
Everything right wing or conservative enough for you to dislike it. Sometimes "right wing" may be substituted by "unpopular".
>>1307213
>2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Wouldn't this mean that it will only be fascistic to very small number of people?
So only a very small number of people are the happy ones under the color? Have the power to even think or make a distinction between ideologies like fascism or other views.
Nobody will never really know, because it was only briefly experienced by humanity and it happened in different places with different characteristics.
The only thing that is common to all of them is the ideal of a strong nation, militarily, economically socially and politically, achieved trough a one party system, investments in the economy trough the alliance of private companies and the State, less than normal tolerance for internal opposition, and a high social order in function of a moral, patriotic people.
>>1307261
Only the ones considered degenerate or "Jewish". Fascism only accepts a certain line of thinking, within their acceptable parameters, they certainly encouraged science (and pseudoscience) and arts.
>>1307251
Holy shit this one ate up the /pol/ propaganda like Foie Gras.
>Nope. I don't know about Italian fascism, but national socialism put huge emphasis on workers
Labor unions were supressed in both Italy and Germany and the minimum wage in Germany was fixed to what it was during the Great Depression.
>It supported a reinvigoration of art and intellectualism.
Only for the use of propaganda. Any artist that didn't approve of the regime was oppressed and both Hitler and Mussolini ordered the destruction of art and literature which did not concord with the ideology of the state.
>Nope
Lmao. The concentration camps, Confini, Italian and German racial laws, the Holocaust and the German treatment of Slavs on the Eastern Front weren't all violations of basic human rights?
>Germany in this period was filled with high ranking women more so than capitalist countries
Because they used women to guard the concentration camps and as human shields from lack of manpower towards the end of the war? Oh yeah, true equality.
>>1307202
Everything that I dislike.
>>1307202
The theory that people are more than atoms, and societies are more than atomized individuals, and the political corollaries of it.
>>1307202
Everything that I like.
>1307405
You thought you'd get a (You) this easily didn't you
The belief in a one sided coin.
>>1307213
This is the most retarded - and incorrect - definition of fascism that I have read here.
No, fascism is not the bogeyman who lives under your bed.
It is a collectivist and socialist ideology, which views the nation as an unbreakable unit. State, people, corporations, trade unions - all must work in synchrony, uniformly.
The natural result is a totalitarian anti-capitalist state, that attempts to control everything, unrestrained. Had strong support in urban working classes. The idiots who believed that the blessings of civilization were natural rights, and demanded it from the state.
>>1307261
Berlin was considered a degenerate filth hole at the time. The same type of place where menstrual blood paintings could be considered "art". I support the burning of any art similar to that.
Besides that there were a lot of Jewish people in Germany at the time, what are the chances that at least some of them may have been considered intellectuals?
>>1307405
You lose any claim to rationality when you revoke the humanity of other homo sapiens.
>>1307330
Don't reply to them, you're basically trying to educate a person who's retarded enough to get their opinions from /pol/ to begin with. You will NOT change their minds, /pol/ provides the only acceptance to these retarded autists that they so desperately crave. In addition they think they're the epitome of logic and reason (aka unwarranted self importance and smugness). Just tell them to piss off, they'll retreat to their hugbox with a screencap and go "LOL SUCH A NON-ARGUMENT RIGHT GUISE OY VEY XD"
>>1307213
Yeah here is a rebuttal (the link) to those fourteen meme points that literal 15 year old anarco-communists like to spout. If you ever see anyone post those points immediately disregard them. Any one who actually thinks that people who are trying to set up any sort of decent fascist system is like checking that shit off of their list like "Shit do we have rampant sexism? No? Well get on it!" Is retarded. It should take you 5 seconds flat when looking into the source to see the bias and misinformation.
t. Literally F. Hitler
http://therightstuff.biz/2014/01/22/fascism-no-one-a-response-to-dr-laurence-britt/
>>1307431
>The natural result is a totalitarian anti-capitalist state, that attempts to control everything, unrestrained
Yes, and this is what the guy you were responding to essentially defined Fascism as: its natural result rather than its theoretical basis.
People do the same here all the time with Communism. To them, Communism has nothing to do with Marx's theories, and everything to do with Stalin, Mao, Kim, etc.
>>1307534
>therightstuff
>basically /pol/ outside of /pol/
Well meme'd friend
>>1307202
And here's a meme bois.
>>1307534
>TRS
Kill yourself
>>1307528
I have faith that you can occasionally pull a misguided youth back from the brink of insanity, using logic, but for the most part, you're correct.
>>1307538
Fantastic counterpoint
>>1307521
It's just banter m8
>>1307551
You'd say the exact same thing if I used fucking Vox/Salon/Buzzfeed as an argument, faggot. Get a real source.
>>1307551
Yea except every single point in that article is literal /pol/ propaganda that he swallowed like the nigger cum you swallow every night. No one has to refute unbacked assertions from a edgyass "HITLER DINDU NUFFIN" website
>>1307330
>Italian racial laws
Explain this.
>>1307202
national bolshevism tbqh
>>1307558
Did you read the source faggot? Did you see their sources faggot? Here ill make it easy for you, here is the "Dr" that wrote these 14 points. “For your information I never made a claim that I was a “Dr.” Someone on the internet made that ASSUMPTION when they passed on the article. I am a retired businessman with a life long interest in history and current events. I have a personal book collection on these subjects of over 3000 volumes. I’ve contributed chapters to three books, written another and am working on a second. I’ve written approximately 25 magazine and newspaper articles on political and economic affairs. I spent about 200 hours researching the fascism article building on a lifetime interest in the subject. My novel, “June, 2004″ was written in 1997 and published in 1998. It was a fictional treatment of a future of fascism in America, which has turned out quite predictive of actual events since it was published.”
And the author of the article " So, we have established that there is no Dr. Laurence Britt, only Laurence Britt, retired businessman. So what was the inspiration for his article? As it turns out, it was nothing more than a propaganda piece intended to serve as an argument claiming the Bush administration was in fact, Fascist and that it was a basis for his book “June 2004,” in which America descends into Fascism following the election of a strangely Bush-like far-right politician" locate your point of contingency faggot. But again great counterpoint but I would like your works cited page for later.
>>1307542
>1a) Patriotism is independent of Fascism.
>1b) One can love one's local/geographical place of origin and still have disdain for nation states, propaganda, and power grabs by Fascists. If fascists tried to take over my nation from the inside, it would be Patriotism among other things that would compel me to fight them off. Sooo, first point moot.
2) Desire for justice? Every ideology claims this.
3) Immunity to liberal programming AND subjection to conservative programming. You forgot the second half.
4) Healthy sexuality. Code phrase for "I'm afraid of what happens when women, who I think of as my property, do what they want with their own bodies." Health is an oft-cited objection to promiscuity, interracial sex, etc. but the simple fact of the matter is that you can be promiscuous and healthy so long as you get yourself and your partners checked up by a doctor before fucking. Also, Mussolini had mistresses. Funny to see him in this pic.
5) Respect for culture and aesthetics. Unless they disagree with your sentiments, then into the fire it goes. Get real.
6) Knowledge of the truth.
Knowledge is never complete. Anyone who claims to have the entire truth is playing a political game.
7) Masculinity. Another byword for "If the young men in my nation aren't war-mongering homogeneous simpletons, something's gone wrong!"
8) Disdain for stasis... not sure I even understand what is meant by this. Fascism is conservative, and so wishes things to remain the same, except for perhaps technology, but then again if information technology gets out of control fascists throw a hissy fit because it means they have more difficulty controlling what people think.
>9) Passion for righteous violence. "I am judge, jury, and executioner. Adhere to my ideology."
10) Opposition to materialism. Another thing so many ideologies claim, and yet adherents of the ideology find themselves time and time again unable to separate themselves from material concerns.
My post is too long now.
>>1307604
Yea except trying to attack the person who wrote the thing doesn't exactly mean much. I don't even think that those 14 points are well made. But TRS spits out random bullshit that they picked up from Nazi propaganda documents, or just shit they saw from /pol/. None of those were any real arguments with a credible source.
It's possible to criticize fasicsm much better than that "dr" did, but that doesn't change that the article was a bunch of fucking horseshit.
>>1307542
fixed your poster
>>1307625
Identify. Points. Of. Contingency.
>>1307666
Literally said it was a meme and you are still this triggered. Top laf senpai.
>>1307666
Pls leave Marxist in hell
>>1307202
Palingenetic ultranationalism.
>>1307666
kek
>>1307666
>Physical health is the only concern when it comes to sexuality
This is what hedonists ACTUALLY believe
>>1307619
Fantastic straw man you've built there.
>>1307591
Google it.
>>1307528
I thought the same about you. There are people in this thread who are honestly arguing that fascism and national-socialism are anti-art when in reality they were a font of aestheticism.
>>1307789
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Racial_Laws
>>1307809
It only happened after the pact of steel and when Italy got cucked by Germany.
>>1307818
Arguments? Nah. I don't see any here. ;^)
>>1307822
Would you agree with these laws if you learned that Jews really are a hyper-ethnocentric subversive element?
>>1307822
Italian fascism was essentially replaced by German national socialism when Italy entered and alliance with Germany. It even says in the Wikipedia page that anti-semitism was only prevalent in German communities to the north.
>>1307837
So?
>>1307852
Wicked mental gymnastics there dude.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Racial_Laws
From my understanding, it was just a name for whatever the fuck Italy/Mussolini wanted at the time. I'd love to hear a rigid and set in stone definition though.
>>1307866
There will never be one.
Just go with the etymology: fascia
And of course the suffix -ism an ideology, system of thought, or practice.
>>1307666
Spotted the commie kike
also >666 trips
>>1307202
interglacial.com/pub/text/Umberto_Eco_-_Eternal_Fascism.html
>>1307265
socialism is socialism for fools
>>1308544
>Eternal Fascism
>>1307205
And Mussolini did that when...?
>>1307202
The Catholic right wing.
>>1307275
As if human rights actually exist. We humans create laws and rights, it's not like they exist on their own.
>>>1308743
I actually haven't thought about it like that. *a jones shrieks in the distance* WE'RE BREAKING THE CONDITIONING AHHHHHHHH
>>1308717
Convince the country that the germs where a good ally.
>>1307619
>fascism is conservative
holy shit you couldnt be more wrong. Are you American
>>1307213
>Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
kek
From what propaganda book you took that
>>1307330
>Labor unions were supressed in both Italy and Germany and the minimum wage in Germany was fixed to what it was during the Great Depression.
Implying labor unions are the only way to support the workers and not a marxist subversive stratagem
>Only for the use of propaganda. Any artist that didn't approve of the regime was oppressed and both Hitler and Mussolini ordered the destruction of art and literature which did not concord with the ideology of the state.
What the fuck is modern art them? Have you never read your share of neomarxism such as adorno, horkheimer or any other of these cunts? Have you tried making a neoclassical painting at a typical liberal university arts undegratuate course?
>Lmao. The concentration camps, Confini, Italian and German racial laws, the Holocaust and the German treatment of Slavs on the Eastern Front weren't all violations of basic human rights?
Implying all these are true and implying the current climate of self destructive cuckoldry respects human rights anywaysoever. Good luck when the muslims come for your non binary deerkin boyfriend.
>Because they used women to guard the concentration camps and as human shields from lack of manpower towards the end of the war? Oh yeah, true equality.
hahaha ha hah hah ha
You are funny boi. I wonder if you ever felt curiosity to check whether this was true or not.
>>1307666
If everything is relative including morality, why is there anything wrong with me physically removing you?
>>1307666
t. antifa
>>1307330
Just because labor unions were suppressed and minimum wages were reduced, people stopped working? Are you retarded?
>hurr durr they banned shit modernist art so it was only propaganda
>>1307330
You realize that labor unions don't actually do jack shit for worker's rights, right?
>>1307861
It wasn't part of the fascist ideology, though. You can't say it's a defining characteristic of fascism, nor it was one of the pursued targets
>>1307538
I disagree, therefore /pol/!
Oh its not /pol/? Fuck you it's still/pol/!
>>1307213
But can you back up your claims?
>>1309268
How can one man be so retarded
Not even that anon but holy shit you ignore veritable mountains of historical evidence if you think unions don't assist workers
>>1309575
Unions don't help workers and they only serve the corrupt leaders.
Fucking fascists I swear to god they ruin every thread
>>1309536
Kind of like how your kind accuses everyone who disagrees with you of being SJWs. Regardless if they show any actual signs of this. Or are even left wing!
Eat a fucking dick.
>>1310000
Fascists are alright when they aren't Race Separatist faggots.
>>1307202
Anything I don't like.
>>1310011
>ctrl+F ''sjw''
>one result
>your post
But keep projecting, lad.
Again the belief that human beings are not mere pleasure-seeking animals, but have an immortal spirit, and all the social and political consequences that follow. There is no definition more concise than this. If man were just a beast, then communism and liberal capitalism would make perfect sense. However, since he isn't, either fascism or monarchy as defined by Plato and Aristotle are the forms of political society most suited to him.
>>1307251
>Nope. I don't know about Italian fascism, but national socialism put huge emphasis on workers
The unions were government owned and controlled.
That pretty much ensured that whatever the gov said goes even if the union dissented. Imagine a country where the government elects the popes and bishops of it's local sect and has complete control over any changes.
>>1310015
>authoritarianism is fine but how dare you believe in an ethnicity's right to self-determination
>>1307202
You'll find out in January.
>>1310133
>authoritarianism is fine but how dare you believe in an ethnicity's right to self-determination
By stepping and harassing other ethnicity?
>>1310133
Pretty much, actually.
Ethnicity and maybe even certain forms of religion have to be given up at some point to the ultimate realization of mankind. What Leftism perverted and what tradition couldn't reach. The all uniting power of the state.
>>1310143
C-cuck!
>>1310143
Conquest, my man. Literally what's the moral difference between warring against a foreign nation vs. warring a foreign people?
>>1310186
Even when warring against a foreign nation in modern times, a force usually has allies within that nation and recognized the specific entities they are at war at.
Alt Right cocksuckers just try to shit on everyone of a foreign race. Like how Antifa harasses anyone they think is a bigot.
If only we could find you kids a nice sandbox to play by yourselves in...then nuke it from orbit.
>>1310203
There's a key difference between the Antifa and Alt right anon. Antifa will send death threats, break into your house, throw bricks at you and other nasty stuff. A person on the "alt-right" will simply post on YouTube or something that Angela Merkel sucks and that we should deport illegal immigrants.
If anyone is interested in having a non-meme understanding of fascism, a good place to state is with the essay written by Mussolini and Gentile titled "The Doctrine of Fascism", or "La dottrina del fascismo"
Here is a link to an English translation from project Gutenberg:
https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/14058
>>1307202
the way.
>>1310261
And beat/shoot up Somali 12 year olds. And Burn down houses. And send death threats. And advocate ethnic cleansing. And lynch you. And stab you. And rob you in bathrooms. And...
>>1310261
Yeah, no. You guys are the same. Different people you disagree with and generalize. But you are the same. Your methods are the same. Your logic is the same. And your worth is the same.
But I get it. It's different because you're right and they're wrong.
>>1310320
>>1310329
You guys are alright
>>1307202
A militarized, nationalistic ideology advocating for a strong government with control over/ties with industry
>>1309276
So that totally excuses the fact that their ideology permitted them to implement racial laws with no problem at all?
And by the way is Jingoist Nationalism totally okay and nothing at all like racism to you?
>>1310329
although you are generally correct, you are looking for answers in the wrong places.
Are the fascist grunts and communist grunts the same? Of course, but that isn't grounds to dismiss either philosophy.
If you want to understand the ideas underpinning the movements you need to look at the intellectuals of the respective movements. Just because a particular communist or fascist is unable to articulate to you the fine points of their chosen ideology doesn't mean the ideology is incorrect, it means the person you are talking to doesn't know the fine points.
>>1309251
/pol/ kiddie plz calm down. You're out of your league here.
Forcing you to work for below average wage with no union isn't suppressing labor in your world?
>>1310350
America and colonial powers had racial laws and the weren't fascist. There were also opponents to racial laws such as in Italy with people like Italo Balbo being a prominent figure against the racialization of fascism in Italy.
>>1310261
Lel.
>>1310329
When was the last time leftist supporters were assaulted en mass at rallies?
>>1310359
>A rhomboid has 4 sides like a square, therefore not all squares are rectangles.
Yeah and there were also Socialists who opposed Bolshevism during the Russian Revolution.
>>1310373
So are you saying that any negative effects that the Bolsheviks had in Russia such as forceful seizure of land is universal to socialism?
Orwell Wrote a good essay on this http://www.orwell.ru/library/articles/As_I_Please/english/efasc
>>1310378
So are you strawmanning now?
>>1310409
>took nearly half an hour to come up with a shitpost response
>>1310419
Believe it or not there are some people in the world who have more pressing obligations in life than arguing with Fascist sympathisers on 4chan.
>>1310442
Such as...
>>1309177
>/pol/fags actually believe this shit.
you're a fucking retard. You're no better than the SJWs you mock.
I don't know what historical revionism they've taught you where "Hitler was a gud boi, he dindu nuffin" but you're relying on the information provided by a board that relies on outdated information, conspiracy theories, and overall a biased ideology to push a blue pilled narrative. Read these articles, and the sources they cite, and you will see how retarded you are. Mind you, the sources are PEER REVIEWED, or utilise counter arguments to BTFO out of your shitty ones. You historical revisionists are a cancer to this board.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_plunder
http://hyperallergic.com/94427/10-of-the-most-infamous-art-destructions-of-world-war-ii/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrxxZunGwtM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv1QJ_yXzg8
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/american/skeptic-magazine/skeptic-12.html
https://www.ushmm.org/outreach/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007695
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_policy_of_Nazi_Germany
http://alphahistory.com/nazigermany/women-in-nazi-germany/
https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005205
Not even the Nazis deny the holocaust, you fucking degenerate. Leave this board and don't post here again.
>>1310186
Simple, I don't round up people who look different than me in my own country, put them in concentration camps and work them to death/ systematically kill them, nor do I go on raids to selectively kill them.
>>1310261
>implying the alt-right hasn't conducted shootings, lynchings, and street harassment.
>>1310379
Interesting read, thankyou
>>1309000
They were, the Italians were actually the ones who slowed down the Germans
>>1307431
>Fascism
>Anti-capitalist
>>1307269
hahaha oh man, top bantz m8
>>1310461
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_plunder
That's typical of any war. I never said the nazis were angels, i just consider them better than the allies and certainly better than the gommies.
http://hyperallergic.com/94427/10-of-the-most-infamous-art-destructions-of-world-war-ii/
>along with about 154 other pieces that were moved to a Dresden castle lost to an Allied bomb.
So it wasn't only the nazis right? The allies reckting Dresden has something to do with it. Let's say art influences the way people think and the way some art made people think was thought to be harmful by hitler. Thus he destroyed it. Nothing i deny. He destroyed things such as pornography as well. One thing you've got to understand is that not everybody is a humanist liberal fag like you who believes all human knowledge should be preserved and free for all. There are things that shouldn't be passing through people's heads otherwise shit might happen. Which is exactly what's going on. Just wait, time will show you i was right. Or maybe you resort to conspiracy theories like the communists where communism failed because the CIA was trying to prevent toilet paper from entering a gommie country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/american/skeptic-magazine/skeptic-12.html
I am not an idiot. It took me quite a while and quite a lot of cognitive dissonance to be convinced it didn't happen.
https://www.ushmm.org/outreach/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007695
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_policy_of_Nazi_Germany
Wow, certain kinds of people can't have sex with certain people. That's so cruel. I was just so eager to get my dick wet on jewish pussy.
>>1310461
http://alphahistory.com/nazigermany/women-in-nazi-germany/
https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005205
>The National Socialist Women's Union and German Women's Agency used Nazi propaganda to encourage women to focus on their roles as wives and mothers.
I am not a feminist. I don't thing that will trigger me anyhow. kek
Here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua8T4nSTCWA&index=1&list=PLM9L2W5aOI_1TUcyIs9lJxTlCllkQer7d Why Do People Hate Feminism?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E577jhf25t4 Hjernevask (Brainwash) 1/7 - The Gender Equality Paradox – (Eng. sub - HQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn3cHsHnUPM Sweden's Gender War (Könskriget)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr-e4RqWdag Feminist Prime Directive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oqyrflOQFc Feminism vs. Truth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05ro6fcj6Ek Feminism explained
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Hb3oe7-PJ8&index=37 Steven Pinker & Elizabeth Spelke | The Science of Gender & Science
http://www.nber.org/papers/w14969 The Paradox of Declining Female Happiness Betsey Stevenson, Justin Wolfers
http://www.salon.com/2011/01/15/feminist_obsessed_with_mormon_blogs/
http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/07/what-open-marriage-taught-one-man-about-feminism.html
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/01/27/some-advice-on-women-in-combat-from-a-female-veteran/
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jun/10/nobel-scientist-tim-hunt-female-scientists-cause-trouble-for-men-in-labs
http://www.spiegel.de/international/rage-against-the-baby-machines-germany-s-neo-housewives-spark-debate-on-gender-roles-a-470941.html
http://time.com/107228/women-misogyny-twitter-study-demos/
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/11/a-same-sex-domestic-violence-epidemic-is-silent/281131/
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00918360903543170
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/as-the-rafs-first-woman-fast-jet-pilot-i-know-we-need-to-question-the-psychological-effects-of-war-a6773846.html
>>1310461
>Not even the Nazis deny the holocaust, you fucking degenerate. Leave this board and don't post here again.
Oh and why do you want me to leave? Did i trigger you? Did i cause doubt in this brain of yours?
>>1307202
National identity above all else
>>1307251
banned/burned the gays, jews, physicaly deformed, and political dissidents = much worse then disdan for human rights, you are right. also women where kept out of almost all aspects of the German government, they ran the girl version of the Hitler youth but that was about it.
>>1311984
Because you aren't doing a very good job at history.
You're ignoring primary sources, injecting your political views into your analysis, and posting to inflame rather than to inform.
>[Fascism] was an explosion against intolerable conditions, against remediable wrongs which the old world failed to remedy. It was a movement to secure national renaissance by people who felt themselves threatened with decline into decadence and death and were determined to live, and live greatly.
-Oswald Mosley
Fascism was a movement of the war generation, to create government of action to oppose the old laissez-faire political consensus which immediately restored the temporary war governments which exercised a high level of direct governance. Fascism developed independently in different nations based on national desires and requirements. Today's 'fascists' are nothing more than reactionary thugs, or 'NatSoc's who have developed their own National Socialism, which they fail to realise goes against the very principle of Fascism was a National movement,
mY CAPS LOCK WAS ON. i DECIDED TO LEAVE IT.
wHY NOT CHANGE FASCISM? wHY NOT LET IT FILL A GAP THE POLITICAL SPECTRE CLEARLY HAS NOW? (tHERE BEING ""Ä GAP"' IS NOT TRUE IF TAKEN TOO LITERALLY)
wHY COULDN'T IT BE THIS NICE WORTHY VIEW THAT IS ABOUT ORDINANCE, NATIVITY, LOCALITIES THAT IS AGREEABLE IN REAL TRUTH.
wHOLESOMENESS, NON-DEGENERACY COULD BE A NICE ISSUE FOR IT TOO
>>1312067
>Because you aren't doing a very good job at history.
Disagreeing with you is not doing a good job at history. Care to explain?
>You're ignoring primary sources
Care to explain? I told you how do i fell about the sources you gave me:
>I am not an idiot. It took me quite a while and quite a lot of cognitive dissonance to be convinced it didn't happen.
Let me put in other words. I have already seen them and have already taken them into account. You linking them to me is pointless.
> injecting your political views into your analysis
No shit Sherlock. But i smell some projection here as well.
>posting to inflame rather than to inform
That's called rhetoric. I at least admit i am not completely unparcial when expressing how i fell about a certain fact or thing that happened. Do you?:
>you're a fucking retard. You're no better than the SJWs you mock.
> don't know what historical revionism they've taught you where "Hitler was a gud boi, he dindu nuffin"
> board that relies on outdated information, conspiracy theories, and overall a biased ideology
> you fucking degenerate
> the sources are PEER REVIEWED
uuuuhh. Another person looked this source other than the producer. It must be true then. Have some autism:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3Sjp_hIrQ0
>>1310969
That's right fascism is anti-capitalist a funny meme pic isn't going to change that. The end goal of fascism is to achieve Autarky.
"The main cause of War is the struggle for markets. Each nation produces more than it can sell at home and so tries to sell its surplus abroad, in cut-throat competition with other nations. Diplomacy, finance, armaments and ultimately War are used as weapons in the struggle for markets. By building a self-contained or autarchic system we withdraw from the struggle for markets and so withdraw from the risks of war."
>>1312219
>I told you how do i fell about the sources you gave me:
This isn't reddit.
We don't care about your feels.
> I have already seen them and have already taken them into account
And haven't posted a coherent rebuttal anywhere in the thread.
Also, you can't spell good.
>unparcial
That has nothing to do with what we're doing, but it bugs the shit out of me.
>>1312067
There are primary sources for the "Holocaust™: Remember the 6 million." are eye witness accounts from work camp survivors and nazis that went through Guantanamo style torture methods. I don't think these are the most reliable sources.
>>1312367
>This isn't reddit.
>We don't care about your feels.
Then calm down faggot. I guess you are too autistic to care about that and how it would interfere in a debate. You keep saying i am biased just because you are a bloody brainwashed sophist.
>And haven't posted a coherent rebuttal anywhere in the thread.
It's called trolling. And it's fucking working because you are angry and replying. Oh wait. You stop posting coherent rebuttals too and now is just resorting to cheap strawmen and ad homs. Just like me.
>That has nothing to do with what we're doing, but it bugs the shit out of me
Mission accomplished
>>1312400
My grandparents were killed and then resurrected six times during nazi experiments. Remember, the holocaust was real in my mind goyim.
>>1312367
Holohoax
The Holocaust Lie Debunked Once and for All https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1slx74zKQMc
Interview With Famous Holocaust Denier, David Cole Stein https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1oJe1asb-w
The greatest lie ever told - The Holocaust - 2015 Documentary HD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmrHBT5h-BA
David Cole in Auschwitz full documentary 1992 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHzWo79dCHs
***One third of the holocaust https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Locuhe6ECU
Spielberg's Hoax - The Last Days of The Big Lie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80GgRWuXcO8
***Ernst Zundel - Interviewed by an Israeli journalist (1996) GREAT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5sbegfCz7o
Holocaust Revisionism for Beginners - David McCalden (full) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Can0fj3YrnE
Ursula Haverbeck: The Panorama Interview, with English Subtitles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPa_QeV9KDM
http://www.polskawalczaca.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=18054
soviet newspapers talking about gaschambers
>Holocaust, Hate Speech and Were the Germans so Stupid? — Updated https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uJEE3thwmk
>The Holocaust Debunked - Ernst Zundel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp85rXHDJCo [Open] [Embed]
>Revisionism in 30 min, by Vincent Reynouard. French w/ English subtitles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLjLEnlpAFs
>Robert Faurisson - The gas chambers problem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL7QjxX7TPU
>David Cole in Auschwitz full documentary 1992 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHzWo79dCHs
>Holocaust History - Dr. Frederick Toben (2003) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AtsopSjooA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80GgRWuXcO8 $pielberg's Hoax - The Last Days of The Big Lie
http://questioningtheholocaust.com/
http://holocausthandbooks.com/
http://codoh.com/
>>1312465
>It's called trolling
I think technically if you aren't deceiving the other person, it's shitposting, not trolling.
Trolling is where you misrepresent your beliefs to make people angry.
Shitposting is just being abrasive and contributing low quality content.
>>1312478
You mind keeping it to two or three sources.
I get that a wall of links looks good, but nobody has the time to read them all.
>>1312481
>In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion,[3] often for their own amusement.
Defending fascism and holocaust revisionism is obviously inflammatory anywhere outside /pol/.
By my def, shitposting is more limited to off topic posting
>>1312509
They are almost all hours long anyway, if you don't want to watch any you won't.
.Interview With Famous Holocaust Denier, David Cole Stein https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1oJe1asb-w
One third of the holocaust https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Locuhe6ECU
David Cole in Auschwitz full documentary 1992 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHzWo79dCHs
What these.
"Fascism was a mistake"
-The last remaining pre-war Fascist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pib6KSKm7gE
>>1312585
Beady
>>1312538
See, the original definition of trolling was posting topics that were so overdone that only a newfag would reply to them. The idea here being that you're trolling in the same way that a fisherman trolls for fish.
But that's an early 90s thing.
I always kind of assumed the modern definition of trolling was to role play as a totally loathsome individual, like the slimy little fuckers that hide under bridges.
I think it depends whether you actually believe the Holocaust didn't happen, or you're just trying to get a rise out of people.
Either way, this page does a superlative job addressing the different claims made in relation to the Holocaust.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial
>>1307542
>healthy sexuality
what does this mean
>>1307202
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEbNOcWDO8g
>>1310011
>your kind
haha oh wow
holy shit, you are seriously fucking autistic, aren't you?
>>1310358
>you're out of your league here
another post by the same autist
Jesus Christ your posts are cringy as fuck
>>1310461
you are a autistic and angry jew
stop posting before you start hurting yourself
>>1312585
where can I watch the full interview?
>>1307202
Facisms means
1) State corporativism, control of the unions
2) Nationalism bordering on Xenophobia as the message of the State.
3) Cult of personality, big demonstrations with followers who chant about how great the leader is, the leader uses the money of the budget to glorify itself with vanity projects.
4) Dividing society into good one and bad ones, ourselves "the people", and the others "the oligarchy/Jews/reactionaries/commies/liberals" whatever depending on the country and regime.
I consider the recent latin american populisms like Chavism and Kirchnerism (this one defeated) to be fascism, I dont see fascism as something that is only right wing, it can easily exist in a very similar way with leftist rethoric.
>>1312613
Your wiki page isn't as great as you think anon. It's mostly Testimonies, quotes eye witness accounts etc. Those really can't be trusted without something backing them up. What you should really be looking at is documentation, archaeological evidence and just basic logic. You should check out the speeches by David Irving. He uses first hand sources such as those I mentioned to prove his claims. He's a genuinely good man without an agenda. The jews on the other hand have an agenda they make a fortune out of exploiting the Holocaust™.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97L_SJrPl6g
Whatever the communists say it is, nowadays
>>1307251
>It supported a reinvigoration of art and intellectualism.
>I hate modernism!!!
>only my kind of art will be made now that ze jews are gone
>what, no one is making statues or painting ze aryan master races?
>we have to sponsor the shit out of the art sector so someone actually produces some works of art
>70 years later
>"nazism was a positive cultural ideology"
>>1311966
>The allies reckting Dresden has something to do with it.
Muh Dresden
xD
>>1313105
Posting a picture of a democratically elected socialist being murdered doesn't really help your case.
>>1313176
nice straw man real intellectual :-)
>>1310329
Everytime
>>1313203
Now juxtapose that against Bernie supporters talking about Trump
>>1310364
soon the day will come
>>1313299
Actually, it probably hinges less on having strong believes that you judge right and wrong on and more the fact both sides possess the same perpetual victim complex.
