Faith. Family. Tradition.
No thanks
>>1299813
this really made me think
>>1299813
Amen.
>you will never be a union soldier with a Henry lever action
Putting aside the politics, bringing a level action, cartridge fed rifle to the battlefield when everyone else is using muzzle loaders is essentially the Konami code.
Especially if most of the enemy is unwilling to shoot at human beings and you are.
It gives me recurring Walter Mitty fantasies of riding in and slaughtering a bunch of malnourished 16 year old farm hands in tattered grey rags, for the sake of my country.
>>1299813
Dont forget to vote Huey Long
fucking South is mostly assholes
glad to be Northern born and bask in the Union victory over those slave owners
>>1299813
Bunch of backwards hicks
>>1299813
Cancer. Dogmatism. Inbreeding.
>>1299817
>>1299892
>>1299932
>>1299971
>>1299984
Is there anything that causes more asspain than Dixie?
>>1299892
Would be cool, especially if they gave you a horse
>dude let's deny people their inalienable Christian dignity and free will because they look different from us lmao
>>1299996
The asspain of knowing that the south lost
>>1299996
there isnt much thats more retarded than dixie
daily reminder southerners are the reason niggers are here
>>1299813
so deep
![144679770_6bf510c27e[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/aRKDqA8.jpg "144679770_6bf510c27e[1].jpg")
>>1299813
culture, faith, honor
>>1299813
boooo, get out of here with that shit
>>1299813
You lost and we won.
Memes. Epin. Dank
>>1299813
>Denial
>Holocaust
>Dogma
>>1299813
Orthodoxy, Autocracy and Nationality.
>>1300001
>people
>>1300008
>daily reminder Jews are the reason niggers are here
IT'S ANUDDA SHOAH
>Fighting for the some plantation owner's right to put you out of a job with slaves
>>1300902
t'aint about that man
Fuhrer. Folk. Fatherland.
>>1300850
"no"
>>1300844
see?
>>1300663
Never forget. I cry for the Empire all the time famalam.
Wasn't perfect, but FUCK did it get worse.
>>1299813
Hypocrisy, Inbreeding, Backwardness.
Here fixed it.
Reactionaries and their "mystique" and "spirituality" should just die.
Reminder Requetes and Catholics fucked up the National-Syndicaklist Revolution
Reminder the Völkisch nutcases and Industrialists fucked up the SA-Strasserite Revolution
Reminder the Pope and Aristocrats fucked up the Fascist Revolution
REACTIONARIES OUT
COMMUNISTS OUT
LIBERALS OUT
NATIONAL SYNDICALIST UPRISING NOW
>>1300955
Don't forget how Comrade Stalin and Generalissimo Franco fucked you in Spain as much as the Catholics
>>1299813
Fraternite. Liberte. Egalite.
>tfw no harem of qt slave niggers
>muh noble lost cause
>muh states right
>muh Bible
>>1299996
nothing. All you have to do is just imply that we even exist and you get massive unwarranted anger and people posting Sherman claiming we're the butthurt ones for some reason.
Fuck the South. They consider themselves """real"""" Americans and choose to separate themselves from the rest of the nation.
>>1300955
>NATIONAL SYNDICALIST
Wtf is this, sounds like Nazi Dilbert desu
>>1302557
No, we consider ourselves Southerners. What the fuck is this post even?
also
>America
>nation
pick one
>>1299813
Penis. Donger. Jumbo.
>>1299892
>Especially if most of the enemy is unwilling to shoot at human beings
This is a /his/tory board, fampai. /lit/ or /tg/ is more your sort of thing.
>>1299813
>Faith. Family. Tradition.
Loser. Loser. Loser.
>>1299813
Amen, brother.
Spooks. Spooks. Spooks.
>>1304426
You know nobody likes a sore loser, right?
Southerners make the argies look graceful and dignified
>>1302530
it's liberté égalité fraternité you fucking counter-revolutionary scum
let's guillotine you that'll teach you
>>1299813
Racism. Slavery. Treason.
>>1299813
the best spooks
>>1304426
You seem pretty triggered people dont agree with you.
The south is the poorest representation of "faith, family, tradition" in the world. Even "I got ptsd from seeing an AR-15" liberals represent those values better than the subhumans that live in huts down south.
>>1300663
Long live the Romanov line.
>>1304426
I see no butthurt, just people calling the south out for what it is.
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/fuck-the-south/Content?oid=19816
I can see the spooks like butterflies.
>>1304504
what people's motto is that one
jews ?
>>1304426
>getting this butthurt over a southern pride image?
More like victorious gloating over a vanquished foe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-dzCt2xeSo
>>1299817
Harry. England. St George.
>>1304716
This.
Shaken. Not. Stirred.
>>1300001
>because they look different
More like: because we bought them as slaves.
>>1300001
>look
what is sickle cell among other things
>>1305046
A genetic disorder isolated to certain ethnic groups, similar to cycstic fibrosis.
Is this justification for slavery?
Oppai. Loli.
>>1299813
Holy. Roman. Empire.
>>1299813
Come on man, as badass as the Confederate was, the good guys won in the end. Slave ownership spat on everything America and its democracy stood for in a world were most people still lived under despotic monarchies. If America committed suicide over a few southern aristocrat's greed, the world would be a lot worse off.
>>1304716
Cheeky.
>>1306716
So abolitionist Britain would have been justified in reannexing the entire pre-Civil War United States?
>>1304653
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5ra9cXx1-o
Traitors BTFO
>>1304653
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5ra9cXx1-o
Traitors BTFO.
>>1304521
>calling anybody else triggered in conjunction with the butthurt garbage in your post
wew lad
Memes. Memes. Memes.
>>1306716
>Slave ownership spat on everything America and its democracy stood for
Then why did the founding fathers allow slavery in the Union? Did they just really have no idea what the USA was about?
The country was founded on the idea of states rights. States were supposed to basically be countries of their own, but united under one banner for defense against outside invaders. Lincoln went against this basic principle by trying to force a dictatorship over states that legally allowed slavery.
>>1306802
I agree with the rest of your post, but the founding fathers allowing slavery was entirely because they could not create the union without allowing it. Almost all of them (if not all of them period) were ideologically opposed to it.
>faith
>family
>tradition
>>1306816
I admit that most of them did condemn slavery, but at the same time a significant proportion of them actually owned slaves. And the fact is, they clearly thought that states rights was above the rights of black slaves. Black slavery wasn't against the principles of the US.
>>1306833
Thomas Jefferson wanted it banned. Most of the founding fathers that owned slaves did so because it was impossible to keep your business alive in the South without using them, because the competition would all have an immense advantage over you. I'm a CSA supporter and a Southerner but the elimination of slavery was clearly within the vision of the founding fathers and a responsibility of the federal government, as limited as I think the powers of said federal government should be.
>>1299813
Spook spookier spookiest
>>1306851
>Thomas Jefferson wanted it banned.
But he didn't ban it. He became President and he didn't act like a dictator to ban slavery. Because he respected states rights.
>I'm a CSA supporter and a Southerner
Somehow I don't believe that.
>but the elimination of slavery was clearly within the vision of the founding fathers and a responsibility of the federal government
Then why did the founding fathers never ban it on a federal level? They got it banned in the northern states, but they allowed the southern ones to expand it. Because northern states wanted it gone and southern ones didn't.
Spooks, spooks, spooks.
>>1306857
>didn't act like a dictator to ban slavery
Yeah, sticking up for freedom. How dictatorish.
>>1306857
>But he didn't ban it. He became President and he didn't act like a dictator to ban slavery. Because he respected states rights.
Banning slavery was a political impossibility up until the Civil War. I think the federal government should only exist to protect basic freedoms, and I don't think it's too far-fetched to consider the elimination of human bondage one of them.
>Somehow I don't believe that.
Virginia did not join the Confederacy until the federal government attacked our sister states. Support for Southern nationalism/rights of the states is not interlocked with support of their right to keep slavery. In fact I think an independent CSA would have abolished slavery within twenty years anyway (inb4 some yankee responds to me with Golden Circle garbage)
>Then why did the founding fathers never ban it on a federal level? They got it banned in the northern states, but they allowed the southern ones to expand it. Because northern states wanted it gone and southern ones didn't.
Again, the allowance of slavery was a necessary concession made to make sure that the new United States would be a cohesive union. Their inaction on the topic should not be interpreted as an endorsement of the practice. While it's undeniable that the US federal government was not fighting the war to ban slavery and countless infringements on the rights of the states did occur, I really don't think the issue of slavery is something that the federal government should have had no say in.
>HURRT WERE CHRISTIAN BUT OWNING SLAVES IS COOL
Just how retarded are these people? Is this the product of inbreeding?
>>1307584
Yeah, I remember that part of the Bible forbidding 19th century chattel slavery too. Oh wait.
>>1307584
The Bible doesn't condemn slavery. In fact, it supports it.
>>1306923
>protect basic freedoms, and I don't think it's too far-fetched to consider the elimination of human bondage one of them
What about the freedom to sell yourself into bondage?
>>1307628
kek
>>1299813
Plus slaves and an hierarchical society that oppressed the poor.
>>1307628
Chattel slavery is treating human beings like cattle and Christianity teaches us to treat human beings as we would treat ourselves so you're flat out wrong.
God, Fatherland and Family
>>1310067
why does that mean faith, family and tradition is wrong
>>1299813
Fuck off hick
>>1299813
A conservative gay couple?
>>1310074
>Ephesians 6:5-9: "Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ; Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart; With good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men: Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free. And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him."
>>1306716
>declaration written by a slave owning Thomas Jefferson
>Independence won by a slave owning George Washington
>Constitution written by a slave owning James Madison
>eight of the first twelve presidents were slave owners
>Slave ownership spat on everything America and its democracy stood for
Yankees actually believe this...
Faith. Family. Tradition.
How can one start thinking of this while this sort of thing is such an untrue thing. As it is known to most
http://desustorage.org/his/thread/1271269/
http://desustorage.org/his/thread/1293786/
http://desustorage.org/his/thread/1302093/
>>1304716
Larp Zuckerberg
>>1299813
Wha ha ha
It is most unworthy to uphold this in some ways while the sex sex sex thing is this punily unworthy.
And if still upholding this: pay, pay and pay more. No you and now
>>1312903
Nowhere in that letter or anywhere else in the Bible for that matter does it deny that slaves are human so thank you for proving my point.
>>1312975
>does it deny that slaves are human
nice leap in logic, slave owners do not deny that slaves are human. Your "argument" doesn't exist outside of your own head. The New Testament condones slavery because it was an accepted social norm in the first century. I'm dying to hear your faggy explanations for the following passages.
>Col 3:22 Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything, not only while being watched and in order to please them, but wholeheartedly, fearing the Lord.
>Titus 2:9 Tell slaves to be submissive to their masters and to give satisfaction in every respect; they are not to talk back,
>1Timothy 6:1 Let all who are under the yoke of slavery regard their masters as worthy of all honor, so that the name of God and the teaching may not be blasphemed.
>1Peter 2:18 Slaves, accept the authority of your masters with all deference, not only those who are kind and gentle but also those who are harsh.
>>1313569
>slave owners do not deny that slaves are human
That is precisely the definition of "chattel slavery."
Labour. Family. Fatherland.
Vichy France was best France.
>>1313589
it's really not you idiot.
>>1313656
>1175-1225; Middle English chatel < Old French. See cattle
>See cattle
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/chattel?s=t
>>1307628
> Matthew 7:12 English Standard Version (ESV)
"The Golden Rule
12 “So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets."
How many slave owners were cool with being slaves themselves?
>>1313686
Nobody called it Chattel slavery back then so you're entire argument is invalid. Anyways, Chattel just means personal property, who gives a fuck about it's root words.
>>1313696
How many parents are cool with taking orders from their children?
>>1299813
>Faith. Family. Tradition.
If you have negroes to do all the opposite with
Faith. Family. Tradition(strikethrough)
Can only be done right if being able to steal others'
Can be done even better if not by stealing others'
>>1313730
Parents do shit that they don't want to do because their kids asked them to all the time.
Or were yours so shitty that they never bought you a toy when you asked for one or fed you when you said you wanted to eat?
>>1299813
We call upon our troopers, in this our darkest hour
>>1313747
>asked
>orders
those aren't the same words
>>1313734
What are you talking about? My ancestors paid well to acquire their farm equipment.
>>1299892
I don't see what the big deal is. Carbine lever action whatever it's still a black powder firearm. Youshoot they shoot and you can't see any damned thing. Have fun doing a MAG dump at freaking smoke.
>>1313718
There are multiple spelling errors in your post.
>>1313795
better than the errors in your reasoning.
Is there a name that causes more asspain in the south than Sherman?
>Faith
Heresy.
>Family
House divided.
>Tradition
Restoring the British monarchy?
Peace, Land and Bread
>>1313821
1. "Chattel" means "cattle"
2. Cattle are not human
∴ "Chattel slavery" denies a slave their humanity
>>1313906
1. Chattel does not mean cattle, they just have the same root word. Same with slav and slave. That doesn't mean all slavs are slaves.
2. Also, like I said. "Chattel slavery" is a modern definition for slavery that endures through generations, those at the time did not use it.
3. No where will you ever fine American slave owners denying that blacks were humans. They just thought they could own humans.
4. Your reasoning skills are subpar
>>1313857
only in Georgia mate
>>1313934
In the modern sense "chattel" means property which still denies a slave their humanity. Furthermore, this is a pedantic argument really because do you honestly believe that American slave owners viewed their "n*ggers" as human?
>>1313946
>Furthermore, this is a pedantic argument really because do you honestly believe that American slave owners viewed their "n*ggers" as human?
yes, you fucking idiot. They obviously knew they were human.
>>1313934
>No where will you ever fine American slave owners denying that blacks were humans
The American Constitution literally says they are only 3/5th's human.
>>1313934
>3. No where will you ever fine American slave owners denying that blacks were humans.
Nigger, where do you think scientific racism started? Polygenesis?
>>1313960
no it doesn't. It says only 3/5th of their population numbers get counted towards house seat apportioning, it did not make a declaration of their humanity. Considering the same clause doesn't count non-taxed indians, does that mean they thought non-taxed indians weren't human? The article calls them persons as well, so are they persons but not human?
This argument sucks anyways considering the slaveowners wanted them to count as a whole because it would give them more seats in the house.
>>1313970
they thought they were less intelligent. that doesn't mean they didn't think they were human. They also believed women were less intelligent and incapable, did they think women weren't human?
>Polygenesis
lol, I don't think the average american was reading up on polygenesis.
>You will never burn your way through Georgia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0aEdnEwmpY
>>1313986
>I advance it therefore as a suspicion only, that the blacks, whether originally a distinct race, or made distinct by time and circumstances, are inferior to the whites in the endowments both of body and mind. It is not against experience to suppose, that different species of the same genus, or varieties of the same species, may possess different qualifications.
- Thomas Jefferson
Granted he says he's open to the possibility that niggers could be human but he's basically on the fence about the whole thing and Jefferson was a pretty liberal guy for his time period so you can only imagine what the average plantation boss in Georgia thought of his bucks and bitches.
>>1314037
>It is not against experience to suppose, that different species of the same genus, or varieties of the same species,
>same genus
>our genus is Homo
>Homo literally means HUMAN
have you been right about anything yet? Are you acting like an idiot on purpose? I wasn't going to bother trying to find any evidence on something so obvious but you actually went out and found it for me through sheer autismal powers.
>>1314078
If educated liberal men like Thomas Jefferson were questioning if blacks were of the same species as whites, you can be damned well sure that the slavers down South did not see blacks as anything other than dumb beasts.
>>1314103
>Thomas Jefferson
>Liberal on race relations
even if they were a different species as Jefferson questioned, they'd still be in the same human genus. basic biology. Slavers down south were racist, but they didn't deny blacks were human as I've been saying constantly. The idea that they thought blacks were closer to beasts than whites is ludicrous.
>>1314125
>Every tone was a testimony against slavery, and a prayer to God for deliverance from chains. The hearing of those wild notes always depressed my spirit, and filled me with ineffable sadness. I have frequently found myself in tears while hearing them. The mere recurrence to those songs, even now, afflicts me; and while I am writing these lines, an expression of feeling has already found its way down my cheek. To those songs I trace my first glimmering conception of the dehumanizing character of slavery.
- Frederick Douglass
>dehumanizing character of slavery.
>dehumanizing
>>1314138
>abolitionists call slavery dehumanizing
This is the best argument you have? People say prison conditions are dehumanizing and that doesn't mean anyone thinks prisoners aren't human. You're a fucking joke and you've been proved wrong at every turn.
>>1315584
I am a simple man and at the end of the day, I can only form opinions based on the information that is presented to me. Right now I have primary source information from a former slave that says slavery was dehumanizing and from a slave owner who was unsure if slaves were of the same species as whites. Theses pieces of information coupled with my relatively shallow background knowledge of the culture in the antebellum South leads me to believe that at the very least the belief that blacks were not human was not uncommon at the time. Now of course I also have information from an anonymous shitposter on a Cantonese comic book forum that says that says the humanity of slaves was an unquestioned given throughout 18th and 19th century America. After weighing these two sets of evidence, I cannot help but conclude that the primary sources ought to be given more weight than the shitposts of some anon. But that's just me.
>slavery
>>1316055
Not him but as well as being a simple man with very shallow background knowledge you also seem to not know the basic definition of words
>>1316078
>Not him
>>1316078
The south should have won
>>1313761
it doesn't really matter. They're both actions taken against the person's will.
>>1316513
I prefer being not inbred desu
>>1316531
ecks dee my friend
upvoted
>>1316534
You sound le triggered xd
But legitimately the south is a massive shitstain
>>1316546
cool opinion, there's several other boards where you're free to be autistic about other cultures, fuck off there.
>>1316555
If opposing opinions are too upsetting there's always a political board you can drop by :^)
>>1316558
>if you don't irrationally hate the South and feel the need to bring it up every time they're mentioned even in a historical context you belong on /pol/
>>1316560
>not wanting the south to win the civil war
>irrational hatred
I hope not calling it the war of northern aggression doesn't upset you too much
>>1316531
>inbred meme came from West Virginia
>West Virginia fought for the north and is in the north
>coastal idiots don't understand geography and attribute WV memes to the south
call us poor, backwards, racist, or losers but at least get your insults right you autistic yank.
I don't understand.
>>1302530
VIVA LA REVOLUTION
traitors one and all
and i'm a southerner
The South will rise again.
(also, shame on racists that highjack glorious dixieland flag for their agenda.)
>>1317997
>I'm a carpetbagger or minority
ftfy
>>1313615
>Pastis
>>1306716
Most monarchies abolishes slavery before the US
>>1299813
Quality thread, seriously fuck off if you are not even gonna try.
>>1318006
The very idea of the south is a racist one
>>1306716
>its democracy stood for in a world were most people still lived under despotic monarchies
You realize that by the time the civil war kicked off you had more rights in most European monarchies than in the U.S. correct? In Prussia, for example, you had enfranchisement based on citizenship rather than skin color. You had a monarch above the legislative house, sure, but Wilhelm I did not rule as well as reign. Slavery had been abolished in Europe for DECADES by the time the civil war kicked off. The only exception to any of this is Russia and even they abolished serfdom in 1861. Of course, none of this accounts for debt peonage or work contracts, which were still legal in both the U.S. and Europe until the 21st century (and is still legal in much of the world today). Yes, I know that selling yourself into slavery was supposed to be outlawed in the U.S., but even as late as the 1920's you could get a job with a company by signing a contract and getting your wages up front which is exactly the same thing.
