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What have they contributed to the world? All they did was pillage everyone they saw like there is no tomorrow. Did they contribute the world with their culture?

Why do people in the Youtube comments section praise the Mongol Empire during world timelapse videos that much?

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>>1266025
google it
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>>1266025
>Why do people in the Youtube comments section praise the Mongol Empire during world timelapse videos that much?
Same reason people praise "muh vikings," autistic edgyness for "badass" warriors. Mongol empire is a meme, it's defining characteristic is its size, that alone should tell you it isn't worth the praise and attention it gets.
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>>1266025
>What have they contributed to the world?
Enhanced trade networks. The Silk Road was finally put under one authority, and thus the transfer of goods and ideas was more efficient and could now reach farther than ever.

A Mongol also built the Taj Mahal.
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>>1266042
>One of the things which made an ancient empire great WAS NOT it's size
Literally what?
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>>1266043
>A Mongol also built the Taj Mahal.
No?

The Mughals =/= Mongol doofus.
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>>1266068
Nigerian, Mughal literally translates to Mongol.
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>>1266068
Its a bit of a stretch to call them Mongols, but the Mughals were descendants of Chagatai and and celebrated that lineage.
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>>1266048
He has a point.

Generally after you go from "Wow look at how big this is" you go to "wow look at the governing systems in place it established."
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>>1266025
They initiated a """"Pax Mongolica"""" in which trade flourished along the silk road. They only needed to decimate the people of Xi Xia, the Khwarezmian Empire, the rest of Central Asia, the entirety of China and Russia in order do so.
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>>1266086
That doesn't disregard size though. I am not saying there are other factors involved in judging an ancient civilisation.

Size is most certainly fucking one of them though. Leave to 4chan to be so contrarian they can deny one of the most basic things in history.
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>>1266077
Nope.jpg harder.

The Dynasty called itself Timurid (2.0) or Gurkani. It celebrates its descent from up to Timur and by no means saw itself as a Mongol Dynasty nor a Steppe Nomad dynasty. The Mughals saw themselves as refined, Pesianate Muslim Lords, and saw Mongols as barbarian niggers.

The Mughal appellation was BY THE HINDUS. Since as far as Hindus at the time were concerned, every bow-twanging horseborne asiatic cunt was a Mongol. Babur himself and his multinational army of Turkics, Turko-Mongols, Mongols, Iranics, and the odd Arab looked like that to the Native Indian populace.

Oh and the dynasty have always disliked this name. Nor any connection with the Mongols. Babur himself in his autobiography rights how he fucking hates Mongols. They are barbarous, non-Muslim, and make shitty warriors
>"Such is the way of those Mongol rascals; if they win, they plunder. If they are beaten, they run away and plunder their own allies and take booty all the same."
And he just plain hated them out of racist reason.
>"Were the Mongols a race of Angels, it would still be a vile nation; were their name was written in Gold, it would still be an abomination. Beware you pluck not a single ear from a Mongol field. For whatever is sown with Mongol seed, has an odious yield."

Again, the Mughals saw themselves as refined Muslim lords. Period. Not Mongol, not Turkic (also Barbaric) despite having the same racial bloodlines, but Muslim gentlemen. Similar to how the Ottomans saw themselves not as Turks but as Sunni Muslim Lords. Babur himself was one until Uzbeks, enemies of everyone who was ever Timurid, ousted him from his comfy holds in Transoxania. Him and his feudal followers were forced to live a much disliked life as a wandering Mercenary prince until he got sick of it and started an Empire.
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>>1266126
Just out of curiosity, where are you quoting this from? I'm not involved in the original conversation. I'm just curious.
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>>1266158
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baburnama
Babur's memoirs.

That text in English
>https://archive.org/stream/baburnamainengli01babuuoft/baburnamainengli01babuuoft_djvu.txt

Babur hated mongols in his early years as ruler of a province somewhere in Transoxiania. Largely from their raids, them being non-Muslim, and their unreliability in war.

"(As has been said), the front of our centre was bare through
our van's being left to the right. The enemy attacked us front
and rear, raining in arrows on us. (Ayub Begchik's) Mughul
army, come for our help ! was of no use in fighting ; it set to
work forthwith to unhorse and plunder our men. Not this

Foi. 90, once only ! This is always the way with those ill-omened
Mughuls ! If they win, they grab at booty ; if they lose, they
unhorse and pilfer their own side! We drove back the
Aizbegs who attacked our front by several vigorous assaults,
but those who had wheeled to our rear came up and rained
arrows on our standard. Falling on us in this way, from the
front and from the rear, they made our men hurry off."
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