Did the V-1 and V-2 rockets have serious military potential or were they just meme weapons?
>>1252874
It had. Just needed better. boomier warhead.
It had Ia too low accuracy to be any good.
>>1252874
they were mostly propaganda tools, which is an indirect military application.
given a few more years and they would have been accurate enough to be directly applicable like cruise missiles today.
>>1252874
Those rockets themselves? They weren't very good and they certainly weren't worth the divestiture of resources from manned air vehicles. Maintaining a stronger Luftwaffe would have made differences all over Europe in 43 and 44.
The overall program? Led to space travel and modern ICBMs.
>>1252874
...A screaming comes across the sky. It has happened before but there is nothing to compare it to now.
>>1252874
The V1 defiantly did have practical potential that could've effected the war. The V2 wasn't since it was too expensive and didn't have the deadly force to make up for it. It did lead to advances in rocketry after the war though which is good.
If the Germans had built U Boats that could carry and fire multiple V1 or V2s. Then they could have done something.
Imagine the terror and diversion of resources. If V1 or V2s started hitting NYC or DC.
>>1253181
If it's anything like strategic bombing or those Japanese ballon strikes, the amount of terror and diverted resources wouldn't be much.
>>1252923
When will you retard pol fags learn that nothing would have changed the outcome of ww2
Led to space travel and icbm? Yeah sure
>>1253434
I think he meant after the war
>>1252874
They didn't cause much damage directly, but they contributed to the greatest Allied blunder in the war: Operation Market Garden.
>>1252874
V-1 was more of a cruise missile
V-2 was a rocket indeed
There were also a V-3 (multi-chamber supergun)
and a V-4 (like V-1 but waay smaller)
>>1252874
>>1253181
They had shit like that but rockets were smaller
>>1253198
>strategic boming, terror and diverted resources wouldn't be much
literally what?
>>1253640
Yes, literally that. There's an enormous amount of difference between bombing a city when you have total air supremacy, literally almost a thousand 4 engined bombers to throw at a given target, and a sophisticated radar guidance and navigation system that the Brits had at the end of the war.
Lobbing a few missiles which have almost no guidance whatsoever at the atlantic coast, followed by trying to get all the way back to Germany to pick up a few more is a flybite. It's nothing.
Don't compare it to Dresden, compare it to the Heigholand Bight bombings in 1940. How much in the way of resources did Germany redirect for that?
>>1253640
So when did strategic bombing mean some shitty ass subs with a few unguided firecrackers?
>>1253651
it wasn't me that compared V1 and V2 attacks to strategic bombing attacks
>>1253719
Yes, and look at the early days of strategic bombing. When you have no doctrine, an only erratic ability to project force, and no information whatsoever as to how to identify targets and hit them, it was ineffective.
Again, you should be thinking 1940 British strikes at Germany, not 1945 strikes. And guess what, they were ineffective as all shit.
Just think of the logistics that would need to be involved to lob V1s and 2s at the Atlantic coast. First off, this is late in the war, very late in the war. Your odds of submarines making it to V missile range aren't all that great past all the planes and subhunting ships in the water.
And then, when you do get there, you just can't hit all that hard. A type 21 Submarine carried 23 torpedoes, usually G7es models. They weighed 1,528 kg each, so we're talking an overall payload of about 35,000 kg per sub. That allows you to carry a bit less than 3 V2s, or 16 V1s per sub. That just isn't that much explosive power, especially since half of them are likely to miss the city you aim them at entirely, and another half of what do get through aren't likely to hit anything vital. Then, once you've fired your shit, you have to run all the way back to Germany (running the gauntlet again) load up, get whatever repairs and refits you might need, and then go all the way back to the U.S.
At 17.2 nautical miles per hour top speed, it takes you 191 hours, or a little more than a week, to make a 1 way trip from Kiel to the Atlantic coast., to launch your 35,000 kg load.
A bomber can theoretically be sent out every 2 days. And an Avro Lancaster carries just under 10,000 kg worth of ordinance. So over the course of one month,the bomber is doing a bit more than double the damage. And one bomber is nothing in the context of the air war, you only start doing real damage when it's hundreds of bombers together.
So no, using submarines to deliver V weapons to the Atlantic is not going to be effective
>>1252874
I've read that Londoners were shitting their pants when they've heard them.
>>1252874
>just meme weapons
Weapons of terror have been employed throughout history. Just because they are used for their memes doesn't make them bad.
>>1253796
>I've read that Londoners were shitting their pants when they've heard them.
They were shitting their pants because unlike the V1, they _couldn't_ hear the V2s coming.
>>1253796
Friend's mum grew up during the blitz, there was an information blackout on the V2, people were told of mysterious 'gas explosions'. It was scary in the fact that death could come at any instant, but you couldn't hear them coming. The V-1 made you worry as you could hear them overhead and we're hoping they didn't stop.
The V-2 carried a payload only a little greater than the V-1, yes the V-1 could be shot down but it was much cheaper and many more could be churned out. The V-2 was a vanity project, it wasn't worth the investment in time and materials. They would have been better off churning out V-1s instead. The V-2 only had a real use as a delivery system for atomic weapons.
According to wiki about 25% of V-1s reached their target, yet the V-2 unit cost was 10-20 times that of a V-2. Economics just don't add up in favour of the V-2.
>>1253434
Wernher von Braun and his mates didn't go to NASA after the war to work in the kitchens
I'm here for the pinecone posting.
