Why did they prefer it thick in the past?
Were they all high test knights trained from infancy to lift heavy pieces of metal and swing them around?
>>1169529
they didn't prefer it thick. the women in your pic aren't that fat, they just aren't anorexic
>>1169529
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>>1169571
and?
Because women are supposed to have a higher body fat % than men to be considered healthy...
>>1169577
Venus was never fat. Just look at all the ancient sculptures.
People had less food so fattness were a sign of wealth.
They painted whoever paid for picture and if you can afford that shit chances was that you aren't dying from hunger.
>>1169529
>why did they prefer it thick
>mildly chubby, would still be attractive today
>even back then this is definitely fatter than they were generally portrayed
>>1169529
poor people were skinny because hunger, rich people were fat because loads of money
>>1169529
Thos women are all inside the average in mediterranean proportions.
>>1169579
yeah, and? men aren't supposed to have pot bellies either. Notice that male models today also have WAY lower body fat than female models, even larger difference than in actual nature. Male athletic models can be down to 5%
>>1169606
being fat was always unsightful.
A modern day kind of fat was pretty much unheard of back then. this is a fat people meme.
the more cushion the better the pushing
things haven't changed that much
>>1169615
I didn't mean modern day fat, I know that didn't exist... I mean "fat" as in overweight, like in OP's picture
It implied wealth and status of I recall correctly, though those women are some of the larger I've seen in older works. Most were relatively slim if I recall.
>>1169654
but those women aren't overwieght, they just have a bit of visible body fat. how is being thicker than a barbie doll overweight?
>>1169677
>visible belly on the right
definitely a bit past healthy there.
and generally people at the time wouldn't be drawn with that much fat on them, so it wasn't normal even then. at least not for beauty standards.
>>1169691
But they're not even overweight.
>>1169698
yeah, they probably are. maybe not 25 on the american bmi, but a bit higher fat percentage than suggested for a female.
>>1169691
that's just because of how she's sitting. I'm really damn skinny and if I sit down like that I will have a bit of a pot belly
>>1169669
Well fuck me then. Good to see the fatties have even less of a leg to stand on.
Thanks anon.
>>1169704
Just because they aren't photoshopped doesn't mean they're fat. You have a skewed perspective because of the technology of today.
The fleshly, Renaissance aesthetic was largely a reaction against the Medieval aesthetic, which was against fleshiness. Pic related.
>>1169571
That's a literal man.
>>1169755
>her face when
>>1169727
>"It's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Ste- wait..."
>>1170671
>attempts at humor
>>1169795
But Eve was a man since she came from a man. It's "woMAN". The abs reflect this masculinity of hers.
>>1170766
You really don't need to keep your trip on when you're obviously drunk and just came to a thread to shitpost.
>>1170768
>>1169571
>>1169582
They didn't "prefer it fat in the past".
>>1170773
>"""Christian""
what kind of meme is this?
>>1170787
But thick isn't fat.
>>1170794
Is thicc fat?
>>1170787
I just told you to stop attention whoring.
But some men probably did like fatties.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INF9r5jju0A
>>1170805
Synonyms aren't mutually interchangeable words. If you think they are, I feel really sorry for anyone who has ever had to read an essay you wrote.
>>1169529
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK6wOG_aDl8
>>1170807
Nah, you said I'm shitposting while I'm just showing you that fatties weren't viewed as ideal. The depictions of Venus throughout the centuries make this obvious. Sorry OP but you're just an adipophile in denial.
Women then simply didn't excercise.
They didn't stuff themselves to show off how much food they could afford, they just ate a mostly "normal" amount of food and never did shit to build muscles so they were flabby.
>>1170815
You are shitposting, I'm not OP, and you cherry picking statues and portraiture proves nothing.
I don't really care about who's right, I just don't like you and I thought I'd let you know.
>>1170835
>posts a painting from titian
>calls others shitposters
>>1170838
Good job, you've learned how to not trip.
Maybe next you'll learn how to tie a noose:
http://www.wikihow.com/Tie-a-Noose
>>1170835
>You are shitposting
no u
>you cherry picking
Show me 1 (one) post-prehistoric pre-renaissance sculpture which depicts a fat woman as ideal beauty.
>>1170869
Well the only better method I could utilize is doing a statistical analysis of depictions of women in various time periods which I'm sure as hell not doing for a 4chan thread. few examples of fat women have been posted in this thread and they have all only been paintings and have only been renaissance or later
>not liking historical fatties
but they were so qt
>>1169715
They're fat because they've got fucking guts and they have zero muscle tone.
They are dumpy and overweight. It's not evil modern beauty standards fucking with me, you must be blind if you there isn't a huge middle ground between "barbie stick figure" and those womens bodies.
>>1169529
What do you consider thick?
>>1171932
>>1169529
It seems pretty fucking obvious, doesn't it?
1. The wealthier class has the luxury to eat more. Eating is healthy, barely eating is not. Soft and chubby people means their food storage is well stocked which means they are of the wealthier classes.
2. Soft and chubby girls are seen as more homely, and pampered — this has always been desirable because women like this make better mothers than Amazonian pseudo-men, or it is at least viewed as such (with good reason).
3. Art has always been about idealizing and reverence. It's doubtful to me that artists and those who paid them to work were always ignorant to the fact that by idealizing a condition that is somewhat the norm (the norm among the wealthier classes at the time) you continuously raise the psychological well-being of those people because you imbue in them a sense of godliness towards their selves.
4. To expand on 3, I also doubt that they were always ignorant of the fact that higher intelligence often means you have less time for physical activity. I mean, come on, it's just how it works. Of course you can be smart and still exercise / do lots of physical labor and be in shape. But typically, the ones who are highly intelligent (well educated, extremely well read, very experienced in the intellectual fields) will commonly spend less time in general on physical activity. So in a way, portraits with non-muscular individuals can also be idealizing or standing up for what is viewed as "higher culture" i.e. people who have more intellectual, or spiritual values, rather than physical and material ones.
>>1171951
>1. The wealthier class has the luxury to eat more.
Did they have stomach enlargement procedures back then?
