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Most based motherfucker to have ever existed. Prove me wrong.
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Most based motherfucker to have ever existed. Prove me wrong.
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go back to yililauta
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>>1134451
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el93MIxAf-c
Paved the way to Tatar rap.
Best shit in recent memory.
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>>1134451
>achieved nothing but genociding
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>>1134567
you say that like it's a bad thing!
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>>1134575
Destroying Baghdad's library and buddhist knowledge hubs is a bad thing
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>most based mofo to have ever existed
>literally no trace of his existence or "empire"
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>>1134618
6% of Asian males directly descend from him
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>>1134618
Not in the West, plenty in the East
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>>1134618
>No trace of his or his empire's existence
Genetics, for one
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>>1134625
100% of european descendants are related to Charlemagne. What's your point?
>>1134628
Oh yea, where are his palaces? His tomb?
>>1134634
Again, everybody alive today is related to any person if you go back far enough. It's fucking math.
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>>1134639
How about the fact that half of all Muslims in India and Pakistan have "Khan" as a surname? How about the fact that two of Asia's greatest conquerors, Timur and Nader Shah, tried to emulate Genghis?
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>>1134451
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>>1134647
>those barbarians
>conquerors
that's why Asia lost the game until now
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>>1134651
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>>1134647
By that logic, Muhammad would be more "based" because more Muslims are named after him than Khan. So....
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>>1134654
Timur was only barbarian in his treatment of his enemies, he was highly intelligent and intellectual.

Nader Shah was kind of like Napoleon but crueler and less intelligent because his inspirations were Genghis and Timur and because Napoleon is god-tier in terms of reforms.
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>>1134662
I consider Muhammad to be very based from a historical perspective. I just don't like the fact that people still like to emulate him 1400 years after his death.
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>>1134651
Restored. There was a decent amount about him on the Silk Roads series BBC4 are currently doing.
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>>1134451
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Dexter?wprov=sfla1

Based
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>>1134489
Wtf, that is some crazy shit f.a.m.
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>>1134451
The original ultimate bogeyman before Adolf Hitler.
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>>1134489
This is modern Mongolian throat singing. Personally I prefer throat singing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rmo3fKeveo
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>>1134489
Fucking comments.

Hahahaha
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>>1134489
OMG MADE MY DAY XDDDDD
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>>1134775
prefer this tbqh
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>>1134618
Mongolian empire is the base upon which dozens of countries sit upon. India, China, Russia, Iran, Turkey, all of these have some of the most significant key points in their history tracing back to the Mongolian empire. Mughal, Yuan, Miscovy vassalage to the Golden Horde, Persian Turk ruled dynasties, Ottomans. And even more smaller less relevant countries as well.

Not to mention, from the day Genghis Khan set out, until the early 1900s, there was a nation who derived directly from the Mongol Empire. About 700 years of Mongol derived dynasties and nations across Eurasia, not to mention Mongolia itself still stands today.

The Mongolian empiremay not have mich physical history remaining, but the very borders and geo political state of the world were directly shaped by the Mongol Empire more than most other events.
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>>1134451
He didn't live forever.
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>>1134451
He started as an orphan, then a slave but ended as the khan of khans. The whole legacy of his empire is one thing, but his personal achievements are impressive as fuck.
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>>1134451
He has left no postive legacy, he just led a bunch of pillaging savages who piggy bacled off of actual civilizations
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>>1134567
>What was the Silk Road?
>What was the diffusion of Eastern technology to the West?
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>>1134654
Asia was winning "the game" more or less until the 1600s or so
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>>1134654
Europe didn't come into a position of preeminence until the 18th century and they didn't completely overshoot asia until the 19th
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>>1134451
>based

He was a lot of things, but not based. He was a literal cunt.
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>>1136799
>He has left no positive legacy
What about the Silk Road or the spread of Chinese technologies to Europe?
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>>1134647
Khan isn't a direct reference to Genghis Khan. Khan (and similars) is a turco-mongol title that was also spread to iranic and persianate states. Plenty of turkic and central asian big men had the title of khan, the mongols were just another people who did in the steppe, and the Delhi Sultanate that governed india for centuries was always governed by either turkics or afghans.
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>>1137106
>Europe didn't come into a position of preeminence until the 18th century

Not really. Europe started to eclipse Asia by the 1400s and Europe had overtaken Asia almost completely by the late 1500s. Obviously Asia still had some tech Europe didn't have such as borehole drilling, a primitive Bessemer process, and iron rockets, but overall Europe was still definitely ahead.
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>>1134664
Nadir "inherited" (took by force) an Iran that was completely cucked and ravaged by all sides. Revolutionary France was winning a war against the world even before Napoleon arrived to power (which doesn't mean that was in a perfect state). Also Napoleon while having kind of humble origins studied in a french military academy, Nader didn't study anything anywhere and growed being a bandit.

Very different backgrounds.
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>>1137133
Not even close. Europe was a backwater until the 16th century.
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