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What do you think about NEP /his/?
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What do you think about NEP /his/?
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something that you don't need in a genuine revolution
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>>1129146
>communism will just magically build itself
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>>1129156
>Communism
>possible in a scarce environment
And they call Marxism a science
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>>1130031
>literally largest country ever to exist ever
>scarce
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>>1130035
>implying being large means you don't live in a scarce environment
*FAMINES INTERNALLY*
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>>1130043
>implying the west, south and far east isn't abundant

The only problem with scarcity is if you have a lot of people there, like India or Africa. Russia is vast but not scarce.
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It was necessary and it achieved good results
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>>1130053
The universe is a scarce environment you fucking chuckle fuck.
It is practically the history of life, competition for resources in a scarce environment.
Unless you want to limit your population to some arbitrary number to "live in harmony with nature" with extreme extermination programs and social engineering (which will ultimately fail/never happen) then it will. Not. Happen.
The problem with life, is scarcity.
In otherwords, existence.
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>>1130063
>necessary
>achieved food results
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>>1130063
yeah, basically. marxism accepts that socialism comes after capitalism because the contradictions of capitalism will cause socialism to arise out of it when things break down. no matter how much revolutionaries want to try to jump past it, you have to undergo some sort of capitalism first. the NEP did what was necessary to restart the economy after the revolution and civil war. the problem is that they went into command economy mode after that instead of socialist, worker controlled economy mode
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>>1130103
It did.
It nationalized only the most necessary parts of industry and allowed private initiative which was crucial for accumulation of capital and stabilizing the war-thorn country's economy. Too bad Lenin died though.

Only full-blown tankies and orthodox Marxists are against it. Leninists fully support it.
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>>1130141
Exactly.
>the problem is that they went into command economy mode after that instead of socialist, worker controlled economy mode
Full communism simply wasn't ready to go at the moment and Lenin realized that.
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>>1130147
And after it all collapsed, industry was sold at firesale prices to international corporations.
The plan all along. (^:
>>1130153
Communism is not possible in a scarce environment.
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>>1130155
It collapsed because Stalin was a moron.
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>>1130157
So was lenin
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>>1130164
He wasn't. He literally did nothing wrong, and i say this without any irony.

Maybe his only mistake was keeping Stalin close to power.
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