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Why was Salahuddin al-Ayyubi so fucking based?
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Why was Salahuddin al-Ayyubi so fucking based?
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>>1099792
You mean the fucker who got kicked around the land by Richard I?
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>>1099950
>>1099792
Didn't he kick Orlando Bloom's ass?

Based? Grounded? Biased? Some other autocorrect error?

He knew his army needed water, which is more than most Crusaders understood.
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>>1099792

The Saracen that got his ass handed to him by the Lion Heart himself?
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>>1100059
>>1099950
>permanently lost the holy lands
>b-but at least we won some battles right?

the crusaders is a meme
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>>1100059

>Saracen

fedora-tier. worse than saying "mohammedan"
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>>1099792
"Based"? Come on... Was he a shortstop? Based? Like being stationed somewhere in the army. De-based? His women weren't well, you know. BWas he a character whose author used a real person as a template (basis). Based? Grounded?
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>>1100135
But it's the proper term, people just called all the muslim ethnicities "Saracen". The same way they called all the western-europeans "Franks", no matter if they were german, french, english or italian.
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>>1100135
but if you call him a K*rd people get buttmad
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>>1099792
He had compassion, something which the Crusaders didn't. So much so that Christians respected the man, even after he ripped the Golden Cross from the Dome of the Rock.
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>>1099792
Because he knew how to treat his enemies with respect and honor.
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Imagine how embarrassing it was to have been Guy de Lusignan after the Horns of Hattin.
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>>1099792
He was actually honouring his promises and agreements and had respect for his enemies.
Those were pretty rare traits in these times.
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>>1100190
Doesn't .matter what some historical people called west Europeans, bud
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>>1099950
It's not the Christians who control the Holy Land now right?
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>>1099792
Cause the man was based
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>>1100916
Christians created Israel, the Muslims certainly don't control it right now
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>>1100050
>Didn't he kick Orlando Bloom's ass?
Balian defended Jerusalem from Saladin for 10 days with just a fraction of the amount of men Saladin had
>>1100128
>permanently lost the holy lands
Saladin took all the Holy Land except Tripoli from a much smaller Crusader army, then Richard rolled in with reinforcements (but still few men, especially compared to Saladin) and defeated Saladin every time, humiliating him again and again, and undoing all of his Holy Land conquests except for Jerusalem, solely because Richard didn't have the men to take it.
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>>1100435
>Because he knew how to treat his enemies with respect and honor.
Massacring them after they lay down their weapons with promises they will be spared (Sudan)? Selling them all off into slavery (Jerusalem)?
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>>1099792
He wasn't. Romanticized Saladin is a Victorian Protestant meme. Stop learning history from Hollywood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqEovnetLFo
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>>1101451

Yeah, a Victorian Protestant meme. I forgot Dante Alighieri was a Victorian Protestant.
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>>1101451
Learning it instead from Youtube amateur hour spooks is hardly better.

Read a book OP. All of them.
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>>1100952
The Jews control Israel, and the Americans created it. Not Christians.
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>>1101506

>the Americans

the British
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>>1101483

What does Dante have to do with Saladin?
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>>1101511

Dante Alighieri (an obvious Catholic, not a "Protestant") wrote the Divine Comedy between 1308 and 1320 (not the "Victorian" era), less than two centuries after Salahuddin's life.

In in the Inferno (the first part of the Divine Comedy), he describes the nine circles of hell, where the first one (Limbo) is reserved for the most virtuous among the non-baptized. It includes people such as Socrates, Plato, Ovid, Julius Caesar, and surprise surprise, Salahuddin.

And Dante clearly didn't have a favourable opinion regarding Muslims, considering that Muhammad and Ali were put in the 8th ring of hell for being schismatics (Ali causing a schism within a schism).
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>>1101511
Dante includes Saladin as one of the virtuous pagans of history I believe. The anon is not wrong - romanticizing Saladin was a meme as far back as the Third Crusade itself. There are dozens of European stories written before the Black Death in which Saladin appears as a wise or moral character.
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>>1101427
>You can defend fortified positions with less men than the enemy

well no shit
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>>1101511
>Being this of a fucking pleb.
Dante was one of the "Virtuous Pagans" in his Divine Comedy. Who lived in heaven but cannot enter paradise because they weren't Christfags.
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>>1101604
Aren't muslims ok to enter heaven according to the catechism now?
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>>1101549
Like Nathan the Wise
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>>1099792
he was a kurd and not a turk- oh my apologies mehmet, he was a mountain turk.
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>>1101604

>scolding me for not having read a 14th century Italian book

???
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>>1101614
MUH FAITH ALONE has always been a stupid Protestant presupposition.
>>1101637
If you've known that Sally the Din has been considered a top lad even in the 14th Century, you would not have made that "Victorian Romanticism" comment.
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>>1101637
This is /his/. On any other board but /lit/ you might have had a point.
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Whether it's Dante of Walter Scott, anon is right in that Tolerant Saladin is more legend than fact. These men are fiction writers, which should speak for itself, not historians.
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>>1101633
What the fuck are you talking about you halfwit nigge?
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>>1101676
Tolerant Saladin was never the legend, not even in Victorian times. He was never not a Scourge of God. The legend was always that Saladin was wise and fair.
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>>1101900
He was wise and pretty fair.
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>>1101427
>then Richard rolled

Why do we have a film of when Saladin won then?

Where is the one where he lost? It must be made
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>enslaved everyone who couldn't pay their way out of jerusalm
>I'm somehow to believe that he was a merciful and noble man

holy shit, stop
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>>1103661
>Why do we have a film of when Saladin won then?
We do?
Kingdom of Heaven was before the Third Crusade.
Hopefully you aren't talking about some cheap old movie based on The Tailsman.
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