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What artefacts do you find the most fascinating?
pic related, bones of Jesus's brother
This thing fell out of another dimension or something.
>>1039725
Why can't people accept this as the scribbling's of a retard
>>1039725
>it spells fudd
Voynich manuscript confirmed for hating casual gun owners
>>1039730
hoax
>>1039725
It was written by Jacobus Sinapius
>>1039840
Carbon dating proves it not to be
Genesis isn't meant to be taken literally anyway
>>1039715
The trial surrounding the ossuary is interesting.
Seems the actual state of Israel took him to court because they were mad. And yet, no archaeologist has stated that it's a forgery.
>>1039823
Glad you cleared that up for everyone. Case closed.
>>1039868
Apparently 'agents' of Israel' vandalised it while they had it in the trial too
Why do Jews hate Jesus so much?
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Jesus's crown of thorns
>>1039725
>Wow! It's fucking nothing - The Book.
>>1040131
It's utterly fascinating. Arguably the most fascinating artifact on the planet. There's really no satisfying scenario that explains what it is and how it came to be.
>>1040174
Well yes if you use it for something it was not meant to date like a live sheep it is inaccurate.
>>1040190
LARPers.
>>1039715
Nautiluses.
>>1040174
Not him, but what else compels you about Ararat?
Why do you think that's THE ark of Noah?
>>1039736
Because it's far too detailed and consistent in its design to be.
>>1040253
>If you want to play our game you have to read this manuscript in a language we made up
Hardcore.
>>1039848
>Genesis isn't meant to be taken literally anyway
Says who, you?
>>1040224
Literally no difference between taking a sample from a live sheep and taking a sample from a newly killed sheep. Literally no difference, as the time for the sheep to breathe in C14 ended like 1 second earlier.
Give it up. It doesn't work. And if you think it does, know that every single organic sample ever carbon dated had C14 in it. Measurable C14. Including coal beds and diamonds.
>>1040371
>And if you think it does, know that every single organic sample ever carbon dated had C14 in it. Measurable C14. Including coal beds and diamonds.
This isn't a problem.
Your live sheep example never happened.
>>1040307
An autistic retard
>>1040354
yes
>>1039725
didn't some historical linguist determine that it was an attempt at creating a standalone written language for a slavic/baltic language with influences from arabic? pretty sure that theory has gained ground.
>>1040663
Never heard about.
>>1039725
>all female bathing orgy
good taste
>>1039715
I just read up on the James Ossuary.
I like how The State of Israel were the only ones to call bullshit and presumptuously charged the owner with forgery. Israel still calls bullshit despite the owner being freed of any charges and many international scholars affirming the osuary's authenticity
>>1040697
check this out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpZD_3D8_WQ
>>1040174
>A live sheep was dated 11,000 years old.
Citation needed
>>1040709
Probably because Jews reject the idea of Jesus
Nearly as bad as mudslimes when it comes to other religions
>>1040663
Theres no way of knowing, its just a unique script and plants, probably invented by a secretive group of monks or something.
When i was younger i used to make my own writing scripts all the time and memorize them too. If people find that one day they'll freak out too.
>>1040750
they only reject that he was the messiah, not that he or his brother existed
but yea they're just being contrarian because they dislike jesus
>>1040770
wouldn't Catholics take issue with this since for some reason they still believe that Mary was a life long virgin?
>>1040776
That's not true
>>1040784
Yaakov Bar Yosef Achi Yeshua.
Jacob son of Joseph brother of Jesus.
>>1040795
That means James
>>1040828
No, it means Jacob. You know how many times it gets written in the Bible?
>>1040835
James is also Ya'akov/Ya'aqov
>>1040762
Lol me too
>>1040190
>There's really no satisfying scenario that explains what it is and how it came to be.
Why can't it be a crazy person? Or someone who thought to be intellectually superior? There's tons of weird shit on the internet these days. Like could people in the past not play pretend?
>>1040893
Is the Voynich Manuscript the medieval equivalent of Timecube?
>>1040946
why not?
The Codex Gigas.
Does the ancient pompeiian shitposting count?
The Marilyn Monroe sextape that was bought at private auction. Word on the street is that the unidentified guy was JFK.
>>1039725
Voynich manuscript is fucking boring
>>1040174
>Genesis is a literal account of human history
>>1039725
There's a theory that the Voynich Manuscript was made with the weird alphabet as a form of encryption to hide venetian trade secrets from the venetian authorities and pass them along.
>>1042089
>flat earth
>ant-ARC-tica
>>1040795
>Yakov
Was Jesus a Slav?
I forgot the name of it, but there's this long book written by a monk which apparently has thousands of worlds that he completed in a night. which should've taken him days if not years.
Ark of the covenant
>>1042449
>>1042434
>>1041137
>In tests to recreate the work, it is estimated that reproducing only the calligraphy, without the illustrations or embellishments, would have taken 5 years of non-stop writing
>>1042952
How do they know it wasn't multiple people
>>1042957
they can test patterns in the calligraphy and it suggests that there was only one author throughout
>>1042957
well we know it was 2 persons; the monk and the devil
>>1039891
Because Jesus BTFOs the Jews like no one ever has before or since. Not even Hitler managed to come close.
>>1039868
Why do people jump to the conclusion that it's the biblical Jesus, isn't it perfectly possible that those names were reasonably common at the time?
>>1039891
wouldn't you have a bit of animosity towards the guy that's responsible for the vast majority of antisemitism?
>>1043063
"son of joseph, brother of jesus"
i dunno man
>>1043063
>son of JOSEPH, brother of JESUS
>carbon dated to 1st century AD
>>1040781
Mary was a lifelong virgin. There's nothing in the Bible that suggests that Jesus had literal brothers and sisters, and the tradition from the earliest days of the Church, attested to in the writings of the Church Fathers, was that Mary and Joseph never consummated their marriage. There is no evidence for any siblings, apart from some gnostic writings, which are understandably far removed from the tradition of the Church in Jerusalem. Jesus was a common name back then. Not every ossuary that mentions it is related to Jesus Christ.
>>1039868
Why would they bother? The existence of Jesus doesn't really affect them much at all, since it's the claim of his divinity that's the important point.
>>1043065
Pretty sure that Jews are responsible for the vast majority of antisemitism.
>>1043095
What if joseph had another wife?
>>1039891
>guy makes wild claims about being a messianic figure in their faith while not fulfilling the key criteria
>his claims involve spiritual claims that invalidate the vast majority of the spiritual traditions of their religion
>the resulting religion winds up being used an excuse to brutally persecute them for centuries
Gee, I fucking wonder. Real mystery that.
>>1043072
>son of BOB, brother of JOE
>carbon dated to the 20th century
>>1043114
OOOYYY
>>1039757
>mfw casual hand cannon owners
>>1043116
It was found near the temple mount
>>1043095
Wait, if they never consumated their marriage, does that mean their marriage ultimately lacked legitimacy? I thought consummation was a requirement for Jewish and Christian marriage tradition.
>>1043114
You realize that Jews put Jesus to death then killed many other Christians over the next 40 years trying to annihilate the sect, right? If anyone is entitled to a grudge, it's Christians.
>>1043121
Probably less Jewish than you, but from an outsider's perspective it's not hard to wrap one's head around. I think it's silly to blame Jesus for anti-semitism, but the fact is Christianity does often get used as a justification for it.
>>1043133
Considering that the Jew were engaging in regular violence among themselves over bog standard power struggle political shit, that's not all that hard to believe. But it doesn't equate to centuries of persecution.
>>1043126
Jesus was technically a bastard?
>>1043124
So? Jesus spent like week in Jerusalem. His family wasn't even from there. He was given a tomb there for free. According to Acts some Christians including Mary hung around the city after the Crucifixion, but they all would have left, certainly by AD 70.
>>1043146
Considering it was sanctified by God the father in person, I doubt it.
>>1043143
Well let's just wait a couple hundred years for the Palestinian Christians to earn us enough victim points and we'll be square lol. Who cares?
>>1040371
Not sure where you heard the live sheep thing (your youth group maybe?) but that is made up.
>>1043095
you literally believe something that is both insane and retarded because it fulfills a loophole imagined by early church leaders because they were idiots
also youre wrong, its literally in the Bible explicitly that Jesus has brothers and sisters
>>1043114
>while not fulfilling the key criteria
kys
>>1040190
>mfw in the future japanese, hentai doujins will be taken seriously by more advanced beings, and they'll think we were all fucked in the head.
>>1043095
It's not like it really matters if she stayed a virgin or not.
>>1043048
where do people find this sort of motivation?
what the fuck is wrong with me.
>>1043336
no hymen no diamond
>>1043095
Biblically cucked.
>>1043095
>never consummated their marriage
god fucked over joseph pretty hard, but not as bad as lot. ill never get over how big of a dick god was to that poor guy
>>1043336
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_virginity_of_Mary
>>1043345
She was already married. As long as she just fucked Joseph it isn't a big deal.
>>1043095
>attested to in the writings of the Church Fathers
yeah... not always trustworthy, especially since this Mary was a life long virgin tradition is fairly late. if you are going to trust the church fathers at face value then you have to accept both genealogies of Jesus in Matthew and Mark do go through Joseph and Joseph was the result of a three way between his mother and the fathers mentioned in the two genealogies
>>1043401
*Matthew and Luke
don't know why I said Mark
>>1040174
>Genesis is a literal account of human history.
Oh god.
>>1043153
You don't seem to understand the concept of being a bastard. Jesus was by definition one.
>>1044875
Not either of them, but I believe the prosecution/suit was based on the notion that he was faking up a relic to sell, and that it was a fraud case.
>>1043095
My teacher who studied religion said that the virgin thing in the bible is just a mistake and it actually said young woman in the original bible. Is that true?
>>1045573
Not him, but your teacher is conflating two different things.
A lot of New Testament notions identify Mary as a virgin when she has Jesus, and some go on to claim that she remained a virgin all of her life.
If you're going for the "Young woman" angle, she's probably referring to Isiah 7:14, which is often claimed by Christians to be a prophetic presage of Jesus's birth.
This, however, raises a number of problems. First off, yes, "Ha-Almah" is more properly "the young woman/teenager" than "Virgin" which is usually rendered in Hebrew as "Bethulah" Secondly, the grammar of her conception and later giving birth uses the preterite for the conception, but the imperfect for giving birth: While Biblical Hebrew doesn't have a strict divide into tenses the way English does, the grammar does indicate that the conception has already happened at the time of Isiah uttering his prophecy, and that the woman, whether virgin or not, is already pregnant.
Furthermore, if you look at the Qumran scrolls, as opposed to either the LXX or the Masoretic texts, you have "And I will name him Emmanuel" rather than "And he will be named Emmanuel", which indicates that Isiah is naming this kid and implies it's his son.
And then there's the stuff about the prophesized kid not being the Messiah, but that's another rant entirely.
>>1045238
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
>>1039715
>Jesus's brother
They found Isukiri?!?
>>1039715
Not sure if anyone has said this yet, but, the best 20th century find was The Dead Sea Scrolls.
>Dead Sea Scrolls
>>1040893
It seems impossible that it was a deliberate hoax, since it passes all sorts of heuristic tests for natural language that nobody would have considered at the time.
I think the leading theory is that some crazy person made it in some sort of invented language of their own, but the effort that went into it... you have to wonder how a delusional person would have had the resources. Besides the 1:100000000 king of crazy that's allow and cause you to invent your own language that shares all the qualities of real language, without actually being real...
Seriously, it falling out of a parallel dimension seems as likely.
>>1046090
Tolkien was able to create multiple languages, he wasn't crazy
>>1040488
Tell me how diamonds have C14 in them. I'll wait.
>>1040647
Good thing you're nobody then, huh.
>>1046192
*tip*
>>1043146
God the Father
>>1043272
Are you having a stroke?
I said that culling a sample from a live sheep, or from a recently deceased sheep, would reveal the exact same amount of C14.
Do you have any idea what C14 is, or how it is processed, or how it decays, at all?
>>1043344
What else do you want to do when you get walled up.
>>1046257
Masturbate non-stop of course.
>>1046436
but your benis will hurt after few numbers and without porn it's kinda boring
>>1046490
You can always draw some porn and then masturbate to that.
>>1046515
>in isolation man becomes great artist so he can jack it all the time
>centuries later, archaeologists open his tomb to see it covered in increasingly depraved smut of sublime skill
>>1041137
>The Codex Gigas.
>The codex was rescued from the flames by being thrown out of a window. The codex apparently injured a bystander and some of its leaves fluttered away and they are still missing today
>The codex apparently injured a bystander
fucking lol
>>1046682
The book literally weighs 80kg
wow
>>1043095
the whole "mary is a virgin" thing was only started at the concillie where they made the bible... in 385... where they calculated what time of the year easter has to be etc... yes, you read that right, 350 years after christ died...
>>1046515
>And that's how I developed my fetish for ceramic floor tiles.
>>1047882
you think you know a lot more about what you're talking about than you really do
but you're right, a lot of catholic specific doctrine is literally made up after the fact and its all so hilariously obvious
>>1039715
>>1048806
me on the left
>>1048806
Were these the first medieval doujins?
>>1048806
please dont bring dragon dildos and cuck posting into /his/
>>1048806
/nk/r/ changes Dragon to Smug Frog
t. KC tire man
>>1043146
>>1043153
>>1045226
>>1045226
It's not really a board for esoteric doctrines and mystic shit, but so be it.
St. Joseph was Jesus' physical father, so was St. Mary his mother + borned his physical vessel.
As a being Jesus have existed since dawn of times - In Orthodox tradition he is even given the title "Ancient of Days" which was God's artisian/craftisan part. Aka, well "demiurgic", now this is something some (shh, Xtian Gnostics) OBVIOUSLY wouldn't have agreed with, as they've (well, most) seen him as a docetic (see Islam) manifestation of the Aeon Christos, redeeming the "Sophia" and trying to free us from the shackles of the physical realm (roughly, that is those who have demonised the holy Archons). They'reo nly his ADOPTIVE family, NO JOSEPH WASN'T KEKED!
Now you'd ask who were his REAL parents - Here enters God the Father (as nominal father of all of the humanity) and Holy Spirit - Aka "God the Mother" as some have seen/called her ("dove" is farily recent depiction, it's based on allegoric description of her in the Bible).
Now as a trivia, the "Holy Sophia" (Wisdom) is seen as other form of Christ in Orthodoxy (depicted feminine, if not outright androgynously - http://www.users.csbsju.edu/~eknuth/images/sophia.gif ), but generally it was associated (also by Gnostics) with the holy spirit. Christos and Sophia in Christian use are absolutely not the same as Gnostic (syncretic religion which caught on Christian popularity, being derived from Copto-Aramean terrains orig.) meanings of those terms, see Pleroma - It means completness, but in their cosmogony it's over-Heaven, the "8th" one (in Kaballah there are 10, 7 splits into 3 representing the Holy Trinity supposedly, makes it 10).
Origenes thought that God the Father is most important in the Trinity, but it's only nominal (see Pope as First amongst equals, not fucking Vicar of Christ, Jesus' regency on the Earth, etc), they're perfection and a family we are striving to emulate.
Understood?
this
>>1051236
Considering the fact that almost everyone today, and the majority of all authoritative spirtual leaders of all time, rejects gnosticism, this post is a giant waste of space and time.
>>1043095
>what is Galatians
