Assuming the European Bank would decide to decorate their currency in a more imaginative manner than bricks and mortar, the portraits of which historical persons would you put on Euro banknotes? The persons need to represent the history of European civilization and hold an influence that is not limited to their own respective national culture.
Keep in mind you need to have something of a proportional representation for the different regions of Europe, different cultures and ideally different periods as well. They should be of different vocations and professions and come from diverse categories (i.e. politics, culture, art, philosophy, music, etc). Bonus points if you squeeze in women. Also no Hitler pls.
You have seven places to fill (for notes from €1 to €500), but the order and value of the currency is not an issue.
>>1025752
Non-Euro here.
Intellectuals and Artists will be your best bet.
Shit like Da Vinci, Plato, Voltaire, Kant or some shit.
Pretty neutral and pan-european as opposed to slapping one of your kings or generals on the bill.
My own choices:
>Sappho
>Jean d'Arc
>Copernicus
>Friedrich the Great
>David Hume
>Edvard Grieg
>Emile Cioran
>>1025768
>Europe is Germany meme
5. Alexander the great
10.Octavian
20.Charlemagne
50. Galileo
100. Newton
200. Immanuel Kant
500. Plato
>>1025782
Oh shit, I forgot Brits are not in the euro, replace Newton with Copernicus.
Hitler
>>1025771
>Emile Cioran
>on a Euro banknote
As a Romanian, this triggers me.
>>1025798
Newton is very very English. Maybe someone like Francis Bacon had more cosmopolitanism appeal at the time. Also wrote in Latin.
>>1025771
>british people
>on euro bills
no
>>1025815
Because he wrote mostly in French n shit?
>>1025752
The artistic trends which expanded through a fair bunch of the continent are already pretty much apolitic and pan-european.
>>1025825
>Scotland
>Britain
t. time traveler from 2020
>>1025771
>Sappho
>>1025829
Still Romanian.
>Obama
>Mansa Munsa
>Mao
>Gandhi
>Syuleiman the Great
>a penguin
>Muhammed :^)
Johannes Gutenburg
>>1025849
Civ V pls
Julius Cesar
Charly
Albrecht Dürer
Copernicus
Francisco Goya
Jan Sibelius
Milan Kundera
>>1025863
Good Goya
>>1025863
>Milan Kundera
Oh shit forgot he's still alive. Make it Vaclav Havel then.
>>1025870
Havel deserved the noose if anything, fuck out with that bullshit.
>>1025877
Cry more tankie.
>>1025833
could Scotland vote to stay in the EU as an autonomous region?
>>1025770
>Kant
>wrote a big book titled "I'm not listening because this hurts my feelings"
>>>/wsg/1044090
>>1025782
>Plato
>>1025897
I think that's kinda the plan.
>>1025752
To cover all the realms of magnificence and the most countries possible
Bach
Pasteur
Goya
Socrates
Da Vinci
Tesla
Hume
>>1025908
Fairly retarded post.
>>1025923
Did you even watch the whole thing.
>>1025884
I'm not a communist.
Havel:
>mediocre playwright
>alcoholic
>collaborated with the STB
>"celebrity dissident" focused on by western press so the commies couldn't hurt him while people like Cibulka were literally tortured
>refused to jail the commies after '89
>his own country fell apart during his presidency
>pushed for the bombardment of Yugoslavia
>>1025917
What does fucking Tesla have to do with the euro? Serbia is not in the eurozone and the guy spent most of his life in the US anyway.
>>1025931
>pushed for the bombardment of Yugoslavia
>implying this is a bad thing
>>1025938
He became the go-to meme scientist for some reason.
>>1025939
t. Albanian
>>1025752
we cant really do that, because shit countries with no contribution (like Poland) would be mad that they are not represented
all 6 of the original countries may choose one of their people. Then for the 7th bill we have a random black refugee.
Caesar, Alexander, Charlemagne, Napoleon, Bismarck, Victoria, Isabella
>>1025938
He was born in Croatia. Croatia is in the EU.
>>1025752
I like the idea of different countries putting their own portraits on bills like the Euro already does with symbols on coins.
In that case for my country I would pick
>Wolfe Tone 5
>Brian Boru 10
>Michael Collins 20
>Padraig Pearse 50
>Hugh O'Neill 100
>Bram Stoker 200
>Kevin Shields 500
>>1025970
From Poland you can pick Chopin and Copernicus.
Grotius
>>1026086
*from France and Germany
>>1026133
Why?
>>1026071
Still not in the Eurozone. That's like Russians putting a Polish person on their currency.
>>1025782
>Plato
Diogenes would fit better.
>>1025917
>Tesla
Get somebody who actually did his most important work in Europe - Dolivo-Dobrovolski or Bohr(if you want le meme scientists).
Replace Goya for Cervantes.
>>1026193
Didn't knew that.
Then it can be Copernicus or Kafka instead of Tesla.
>>1025752
That's all fine and dandy for Italy/France/Germany, but who the fuck are you gonna put in for the cultural lightweights? The first choice in most fields for the baltics or say even Portugal and Belgium would be much worse than the big guys' third or fourth choices.
Might as well have more than one face per banknote:
5€: Socrates/Descartes/Kant
10€: Vivaldi (or Verdi)/Mozart/Sibelius
20€: Dante/Schiller/Wilde
50€: Michelangelo/Picasso/Rembrandt
100€: Pasteur (or Lavoisier)/Kepler/Lemaitre
200€: Marco Polo/Magellan/Cortez (or whatever third explorer, can't think of anyone)
500€: Da Vinci/Goethe/Aristotles
Holy shit it's so hard to keep italians and brits out of this kind of lists.
I feel like Beethoven would look good on a banknote.
>>1026406
Third explorer can be Francis Drake.
>>1026429
It's already the god damn anthem of the EU. Can't hog Ludwig like that.
>>1026432
>Francis Drake
It's a fucking brit.
>>1025752
Yeah there's no way this shit's ever gonna happen. Every nation is gonna want to have its own figures on the notes.
We should just do as we did with the coins, every nation has its own version. Maybe put in categories for every cut, like:
5. patriot
10. writer
20. musician
50. painter
100. scientist
200. philosopher
500. leader
For example, Italy:
Garibaldi
Dante
Vivaldi
Michelangelo (fuck da Vinci, he's already got the 1€ coin)
Galileo
Giordano Bruno
Cavour
>>1026482
Well, might as well do this for Finland
5. Eugen Schauman
10. Aleksis Kivi
20. Jean Sibelius
50. Akseli Gallen-Kallela
100. Mikael Agricola
200. Jaakko Hintikka
500. Urho Kekkonen (this'll probably trigger many, but the 500 won't probably be around for long so whatever)
>>1025752
The EU is the new Rome so
>Julius Caesar
>Augustus
>Constantine
>Charlemagne
>Constantine Palaiologos
or switch a few around idgaf
>>1027027
>Includes Cuckonen
>Disregards Mannerheim
>>1025849
Given the EU's policies, this is the only plausible list so far.
>>1027060
The fact that you call him Cuckonen is why i chose him. Besides Mannerheim is overrated and steals too much credit from other commanders
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>>1026482
>no da Vinci because coins
>puts in Dante
You're a fucking moron aren't you?
>>1025752
The bills represent the periods of European history in architecture so I think the people should reflect that.
5= Antiquity
10=Medieval
20=High medieval
50=Renaissance
100=Enlightenment
200=Modernism
500=Contemporary
Marcus Aurelius
Albert Einstein
Clovis I
Casimir III
Bartolomé de las Casas
Auguste Escoffier
>>1026482
From Krautland
>5. patriot
Bismarck
>10. writer
Goethe
>20. musician
Wagner, since Beethoven is already in the anthem and Salzburg is currently in Austria
>50. painter
Only one I call recall is Ernst
>100. scientist
Einstein
>200. philosopher
Nietzche
>500. leader
Frederick the Great
>>1027057
>new Rome
>doesn't even have an army of its own
yeah no
Can you find seven notable figures from Cyprus?
>>1026482
From France
>5. patriot
Jean Moulin
>10. writer
Victor Hugo
>20. musician
Hector Berlioz
>50. painter
Claude Monet
>100. scientist
Louis Pasteur
>200. philosopher
Jean-Jacques Rousseau
>500. leader
Charles De Gaulle
>>1025863
>Milan Kundera
well that's a name I didn't expect to pop up on /his/, ever
>>1028899
People here read books senpai
>>1026482
From Spain
5. Rafael del Riego.
10. Cervantes.
20. Manuel de Falla.
50. Velázquez or Goya.
100. Ramón y Cajal.
200. Séneca or Averroes.
500. Carlos III (Suarez perharps).
>>1025752
>tfw no banknotes with mortars
>>1025770
this. Leaders are too controversial, you usually don't become great leader without triggering some people abroad.
>>1029228
Cultural figures can be just as controversial tbqh. Imagine putting Dostoevsky on a Russian currency without someone going muh misogyny muh antisemitism.
>>1029228
Leaders are ok if they are long enough dead. For example no one would mind Ceaser, not even the french.
Adolf Hitler
Julius Caesar
Augustus
Charlemagne
Copernicus
Napoleon
Plato
Socrates
>>1027027
>no Simo Häyya
Jesus Christ on every note
>>1029288
All of the above bar napolean
>Julius Caesar
>Charlemagne
>Alfred Nobel
>Napoleon
>Shakespeare
>Queen Isabella I of Castile
>John Paul II
Literally perfect, come the fuck at me
>>1027060
mannerheim was nothing but foreign imperialist, traitor of his country and people and cold-blooded murderer.
>>1029423
>john paul II on the 500
>>1029359
He isn't culturally or historically important desu
>>1025752
Socrates (symbolize ancient foundations, wisdom-seeking)
Leonardo Da Vinci (art, imagination, complexity of "Renaissance man")
John Amos Comenius (education)
Erasmus of Rotterdam (humanism, tolerance)
Marie Curie (progress, international collaboration, gender equality)
Albert Schweitzer (compassion, equality, humanitarian involvement)
Alberto Barbosa (multiculturalism)
>>1029443
...What ever you say man.
- King Leopold II of Belgium
- Francesco Franco
- Oskar Dirlewanger
- Vlad the Impaler
- Pius XII
- Hernan Cortez
- Johan Cruiff
>>1029938
Damn son careful with all those edges
>>1029443
>Using soviet propaganda
>>1025770
What about Charlemagne?
I would love to have Vlad the Impaler staring at me on the 500 bill
So there are 7 spots to fill, and they should all be people whose importance resonates across all of the West. I'd nominate:
- Charlemagne (700s)
- Oresme (1300s, science)
- Columbus (1400s, exploration)
- Leonardo (1500s, art)
- Descartes (1600s, philosophy)
- Bach (1700s, music)
- Napoleon (1800s, politics)
I think that's a decent balance between time periods, and also a mix of countries. Of course it doesn't include any East Europeans or women, but I don't think you could do that without blatant tokenism.
>>1030498
Perfect.
>>1030498
>no EE
Triggered, change this now!
images of people of haram. all future eu currency will only have geometric patterns and the crescent moon on them.
>not combining historical people and architecture
>>1030498
>>1031877
Most of Eastern Europe isn't in the Eurozone anyway.
>>1031881
Oops wrong one
Country-specific bills pls.
I think Justinian should deserve a spot, seeing as his Code was the basis of the laws for nearly all European nations up to the modern day.
I think modern Europe would shy away from displaying war leaders on the currency and would try to focus on monarchs with great civil accomplishments, like maybe Antoninus Pious, who ruled Rome at its peak and most tranquil period, focusing on administration and infrastructure. Who else would fit this bill?
>>1031965
Justinian wasn't even European. And Europe's lawmaker was Napoleon. If we start including non-Europeans the most influential would be Jesus.
>>1025752
Voltaire
Napoleon
Kant
>>1031976
>born in modern day Croatia
>not European
5. Socrates, Epictetus and Epicurus
10. Charlemagne, Charles Martel and Peppin
20. Metternich, Bismarck and Talleyrand
50. Frederick the Great, Alexander and Napoleon
100. Augustus, Hadrian and Trajan
200. Adam Smith, Locke and Mill
500. Newton, Archimedes, Gauss
>>1031996
Appropriating people from foreign or dead civilisations is cringy regardless, and reeks of desperation.
Nige
Kenny Loggins
Genghis Khan
Laika
Air Bud
Milli Vanilli
Leonardo DaVinci
Yuri Gagarin
