I've heard many complain they didn't take calculus in HS, but never heard someone complain they didn't take more courses on poetry or history.
Does this imply humanities are worthless af?
Worthless? No, just less practical and easier to understand.
>>1021777
It's harder to get a good grade in the social sciences than in pure sciences. This being said, you can't compare each to the other, as they require different levels of skill or expertise.
>>1021777
I have a Masters in History and I can assure you I did it in my sleep. Its the only major where you can press your Professor up against a bar wall and make-out with. STEM major can prove me wrong doe.
>>1021836
No, it's not.
All my friends who got BAs almost never had any work to do. Getting a good grade on an essay is just about sounding as pretentious and pseudo-intellectual as possible while feeding into your professors political philosophy.
>>1021836
>t's harder to get a good grade in the social sciences than in pure sciences
No its not. The humanities professor telegraph their opinions. All you have to do is imitate what they want you say.
>>1021836
>It's harder to get a good grade in the social sciences than in pure sciences
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Have you taken a science class beyond your freshman year astronomy class?
Studying the humanities isn't very useful for the purpose of practical employment, but they're not worthless. Knowing about them makes you a more well-rounded person.
>The Tab
Some girl at my university was taking credit for starting this webzine or whatever it is.
I should have known she didn't actually start it.
This is my last semester working on my BA in history and honestly all of my upper level classes have been taken along with grad students and required incredibly long hours of reading and writing. My roommate, in his final year of mechanical engineering technology BS, almost never has any homework to do. I would say that from what I have observed, a BA track is much more intellectually rigorous but that comes with interpretation.
Professor just told a story about the deli owner he went to while he was in college noticed his copy of Dante's Inferno and started reciting the story from memory.
My professor was surprised and wanted to know where he learned that and he said he studied medieval history in Italy (forgot the town) and specialized in literature including the Dante's Inferno.
Managed to put his kids through college and he's still making sandwiches to this day. Thinking about going to visit his deli actually.
Anyway, point is, don't worry humanities majors. One day you might find a delicatessen owner to talk about humanities with and you might even own a deli one day! Or teach!
>Tfw took stem shit through calc 2 (yes I passed it) before switching to history
Never been happier. I feel like a human again.
Of course you can have a university where history or whatever essays require tonnes of research and hours of error free work and interpretation. But if I told you to go and learn Mongolian for 4 years and write a novel and 10 poems and a newspaper in the language then that would require all those qualities as well. Now the same but replace Mongolian with Hentai porn.
Some people claim that humanities students have a monopoly on rigour or critical thinking. Rigour is simply the absence of fallacies. Critical thinking is simply rigour along with using existing ideas. Maybe my definitions are wrong but I hope you agree that only a deluded consumer whore student could think that you need a degree to obtain these qualities.
My problem with humanities degrees is that the framework needed to create quality work is arbitrary and inconsistent. In practice, being a renowned person in these fields relies on subjective perceptions related to self promotion.
I'm on my phone so I can't be bothered to write what I fully think but my opinion is that if the degree isn't teaching you general, widely applicable, theoretical ideas, it's a worthless waste of time. My engineering degree was worthless and the only worthwhile degrees are maths, physics, and parts of computer science
>>1022007
>you might even own a deli
But my humanities education taught me that owning things is capitalism
>>1021777
>I've heard many complain they didn't take calculus in HS
Where the fuck are people not taking at the very least precalc in HS?
>>1022007
Whats your point?
Lots of burnt out lawyers go into politics, MBA grads might start small businesses, engineers might start small tech shops.
A degree isnt a life-sentence dummy.
>>1022185
And capitalism is good!
>>1021777
Humanities don't make you money, they get you cultured.
Not everything in life needs to be valued by the dollar. Past a certain point where you have enough to live comfortably things like culture and philosophy start to matter.
It's literally Maslow' Hierarchy of needs. If you are broke don't study humanities, you need food and housing first.
>>1022189
I think that was his point, dummy
>>1022190
But my humanities education taught me that it's destroying the planet :(
>>1022195
More like it's destroying humanities.
>>1021836
Shut the fuck up.
>>1022192
>Anyway, point is, don't worry humanities majors. One day you might find a delicatessen owner to talk about humanities with and you might even own a deli one day! Or teach!
Yeah, he's really advocating for history majors with this point. My bad.
>>1022209
>mfw my sociology professor talks about the education bubble and I think about what's going to happen to this smug bastard when the university system collapses
>>1021836
History was easy and Social Science was MAD fucking easy, basically a class for life drop-outs. I needed 1 social science class in canader and it was boring as fuck, I was practically twiddling my thumbs the whole time. Meanwhile I flunked Math pretty hard. Lunch break is over, back to Starbucks.
>>1021777
Oh i definitely accept its harder [spoiler] finding employment [/spoiler] with a BA than a BScs :^)
>>1021836
>It's harder to get a good grade in the social sciences than in pure sciences.
One of those uninformed opinions
>>1022230
Do you have a problem with teaching??
And according to my professor, his sandwiches are goddamn beautiful and he put children through college in that shop. Maybe you're underestimating the need for sandwich artists educated in the classics.
I've a BScs in Sociology. Where is your God now.
Poetry and history are considered topics that you can do on your own. Sadly, you cannot say the same about math even if you can completely complement your knowledge on your own.
>>1022415
>Russian
>More intelligent
>>1022415
>Psychology
>Less intelligent than drama.
Impressive.
Im majoring in Bio and Philosophy. Ill say that while my coureload for my bio and chem classes is much greater, the PHI classes require much more critical thinking skills and as a whole are much more challenging.
Theres no excuse for being bad at math, at least if youre going to shit on those same people for not being bad writers.
Overall being a polymath of sorts is the best option. Theres no reason to limit yourself - learn the science AND the humanities and learn how to synthesis your knowledge.
>>1022437
>Bio fag can only get critical thinking skills through Philosophy
That was a shocker.
>>1022415
>business administration
>less intellegent
>more mathematical
actually probably true
>implying Social sciences arent killing both the humanities and the Natural sciences.
Its literally just the worst of both areas, without the reliability of actual science or the human insight of the humanities.
>>1022437
This. Polymath here.
Definitely on course to study Comp Lit and Philosophy at Reed College, but haven't decided on a science to pursue.
>>1022437
>Theres no excuse for being bad at math
At least for basic math, that's true. Hell, even "hard" stuff like Calc is conceptually fairly simple.
For higher levels of math, though, it's pretty understandable that many people don't get it. Hell, I still don't entirely understand why the fuck Laplace transforms work.
>>1022441
Never said that at all. My Ecology and Conservation Bio classes required a lot of critical thinking, but my Chem classes are just equation after equation. I dont even mind chem, it just undenyably doesnt take much critical thinking. My physics classes require a bit more but not much more.
>>1022455
Eh, it just takes more work. Understanding the guts of something in math doesn't really mean having an intuitive or graphical image of it, but rather being able to manipulate at your will.
>>1022462
Well obviously your chemistry and physics courses aren't going to be at the highest level of complexity. The critical thinking skills you need when solving many problems is a merit of its own. You are taught plug and chug because brilliant minds could solve those problems.
>>1022415
philosophy top tier
>>1022415
>history of science
Wut
>>1022520
>>1022537
shit tier list lmao
>>1022437
BA & BS master race here as well. The BA in Art was my dream at the time but the BS in Maths was an acceptable alternative for the inevitable realization of how little financial gain many of the careers in art offer compared to the education needed (Master's or higher).
I wish the mods could just delete these threads. It's almost as bad as the old "is god real" threads on /sci/ way back - unless they still have them. I fucking hope not.
It must be nice to be in STEM, which hasn't been fucking castrated by school boards and fucking budget cuts. Every other year the Department of Education is like MUH STEM and demands more even though the amount of jobs in those fields are limited as fuck, while the Humanities just gets itself shit all over to names and dates. Science's only fucking controversy in High School classrooms is evolution - everything in history is a goddamn controversy because it colors perceptions of the present and lends itself to political bullshit by being edited in this way. Man, how difficult for you guys. I couldn't even begin to learn anything new until I got into 300-level history classes where the normal surface bullshit is fucking gone, but even then the professors have to deal with students from a denuded and debased program.
>>1022641
I don't get your point.
>>1021777
>We have to chug a bottle of wine and weep over Sparknotes'
As an econfag obtaining a BA, the fact that you can go to Sparknotes and learn what you need to know disproves the thesis. BSc's are harder than BA's, I could never do a BSc.
>>1022676
>STEM is largely unadulterated
>Humanities (especially history) is molested by politics and budget cuts, creating an inferior product
Your post is exactly why I'm right.
>>1022415
>citation needed
>>1022692
That's due to your shitty academic system.
>>1022187
I don't think most people take it, at least not here in Canada.
>>1022711
Nice reply, really thought out. Thanks for repeating exactly what I said. You'll make it far,sadly.
>>1022726
>Your inability to state your point clearly is because im a dumb stemlord xd
As someone who did both Bachelor of Engineering then went back and did history. Social Sciences are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY fucking harder. My fucking god, so many times I almost dropped out.
>Here write about the formation of Stalinist bureaucracy in 1000 words in a week.
>End up writing 3000 words just covering the bare minimum
>Most of your sources aren't even in fucking English so you have to spend days machine translating entire chapters of books.
>You can fail if your argument/interpretation isn't good enough.
Seriously, anyone who thinks Social Sciences are easy subjects should fuck off. I'm pretty sure I developed a severe anxiety disorder from how fucking bullshit hard these subjects are.
>>1022778
Maybe not everyone is suited for everything.
>>1021990
Engineering does have a lot of work, but nowhere close to history.
A lot of my classmates got by doing fucking jack shit. My best friend literally didn't go to a single lecture for 3 years and still passed with honours.
In a way Engineering is pretty straight forward, though it's turned into a worthless degree. I actually came to the conclusion my degree was hurting my job prospects,.
People seriously underestimate the crazy levels of coursework in the humanities, and how fucking bullshit the assignments actually are.
>>1022789
No, the Humanties is just literally bullshit hard. You get 3 papers to write dumped on you at any moment (seriously, you will be writing papers almost every day you are doing the course) and they are often incredibly vague, require sources out the wazoo for often very niche events.
For example, the formation of Stalinist bureaucracy, you think there would be a lot of books on this, but no, there is barely fucking anything, most of the shit I found was in Russian as well. Most of the english language stuff was from a Trotskyist viewpoint.
You have to sift through all of that bullshit, interpret the parts you think are important, then write a convincing argument and interpretation of the events while trying to not just plagiarize the sources then on top of that if it wasn't hard enough, they give you these bullshit word limits that are near impossible to stay under and for you to stay under it, you have to cut 50%+ of your writing and points, but then you have to make a call of what to cut and what is relevant to the argument or not. One of these that you cut, might be essential in view of your tutor and thus you will fail or get a greatly reduced mark.
None of this shit I had to face while in Engineering, ever.
>>1022415
Replies every time. This picture is the baitiest.
>>1022827
You are just shit m8. I see the same reaction from people in the humanities with any sort of mathematical work.
>>1021777
>entire article on why BAs are hard and how it's difficult to write stories and theses
God I hate this gay fucking earth. REVELATIONS WHEN
>>1022742
>implying
Vanity doesn't become you, my dear.
>>1022850
They are completely different.
STEM is largely based around rote memorization, remember this formula where social science is largely based around interpretation and critical thinking.
As 5+5 will always equal 10, but a historical argument will always be subjective because of your biases, your sources biases, ideology etc, which you have to cut through and then present a convincing argument making sure every single one of your points is sufficiently backed up.
There is a reason 95% of my fucking Engineering class that actually passed LITERALLY COULDN'T SPEAK ENGLISH. Because writing and interpreting arguments, language and ideology is not important to engineering. Numbers are a universal language which are quite easy to grasp once you get it and memorize it. Completely different from the interpretation of history like you have to do in history.
I'm literally not kidding as well, 95% of my class were Chinese princelings who drove around in BMWs, lived in the most expensive uni lodgings and couldn't speak english, you would be stuck in a group assessment (something as well that never happens in Social Sciences) and you couldn't even speak to who you were fucking stuck with.
>>1021777
You are likely being sincere and from a practical standpoint insofar as salary determines worth in a capitalist society, you are likely correct given that a humanities specialization likely implies that one will not receive much of a paycheck. On the flip side, a humanities education teaches you to be open-minded, and if you're fortunate it teaches you how to appreciate life irrespective of your salary. I think the author of that article is fucking up, but I respect the opinion unless I feel like trolling or posting pure satire.
>>1022277
it's only easy if the instructor makes that choice. take for example harvard: the general psychology/intro psychology course taught by prof pinker is the hardest course for freshmen
>>1022886
Math is much more complex than 5+5=10 just as history is more complex than "who was the first President of the United States?"
Sure, you can memorize, but even a high school pre-calc student trying to find f''(x) of f(x)=(e^2x-8)/(3cos4 - sin4) will have a hard time if he makes even an error with a positive or negative sign.
I'm in first year econ so I can't go in to incredible detail about university courses, but when I was in high school I can tell you that calculus, vectors, and functions were significantly harder than politics, history, and philosophy, even if I was getting higher grades in them.
In an essay, if you make an error somewhere you can always go back and fix it. In sciences/math, one error could mean that you have to restart the entire thing, especially if it is recurring. Forming an argument with limited space may not be easy, but math and science is much fucking harder.
>>1022886
This may be b8, but if not, this is an example of the deep ,modern, misunderstanding of STEM. The fact that there are not multiple answers (even though there could be) doesn't mean that getting to an answer is easy. Yes you could look online most of the answers but that really takes you so far. Understanding what you are doing and generating an effective method to attack a problem is anything but simple. If you ever want to produce original work, you need to have this clear.
>>1021777
That's because no one takes history courses in High School.
>>1022934
What fucking highschool did you went
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3znjCuLlf8E
Reminder to all the STEM fags in this thread.
>>1022924
>>1022923
I'm not saying STEM isn't hard. I'm not saying Math isn't hard, I'm not even saying there isn't times in STEM we need to engage in critical thinking and communication. But STEM for the most part unless you are off into weird experimental shit will always be a million times more straight forward than Humanities. The course load for Engineering was a 10th of the course load I have for History.
95% of my engineering course was just fucking gooks copying off each other, they wouldn't even hide it as well, a few of them could speak english, then the rest would just copy off them. My best friend largely used to just copy off me.
You can't copy in humanities, I've seen students officially warned for having paragraphs similar to eachother. In Engineering, I never had these crazy as fuck interpretive essays thrown onto me non-stop every single fucking week.
And here is the worst thing about STEM. STEMlords who literally think they are the greatest thing in the universe, but are autistic retarded pieces of shit once they step out of their field. The arguments I get into with STEMlords my god.
If I have to hear another STEMlord go on about how fucking "Logical" he is or "that's just logic" in a fucking intepretation of politics, sociology or history, I'm probably going to write a snarky comment on facebook for facebook likes.
Again, I don't think STEM isn't hard and I think STEM is massively important (despite how useless my engineering degree is, though I do have a nice certificate as well from an engineering guild) but the attitude against the humanities that is present in the media, in academia and especially from STEM students is complete and utter bullshit, especially with how fucking hamstrung humanities is in funding, while STEMlords try to grapple why they can't explain basic fucking science to the general public like Climate Change.
>>1022960
I heard a 15 year old say the same shit.
>>1022982
Well, then the myths about engineering are true, you get pragmatic dumbed down shit. Have you ever dealt witha proof that isn't half a page long? Have you ever had to invest weeks in a couple of problems? Have you ever had to scrutinize over thousands of data points and getting a rigorous and well presented (which means well written) report?
No one is downing humanities or history, but you are delusional if you think either subject is inherently more difficult than the other.
>>1021777
Trips checked.
I took calculus in college (it wasn't an HS course at the time). If I had it to do over again, I would have taken Accounting instead. I've never worked an integral on the job, and I'm sure knowing something about debits and credits would have been helpful.
>>1022984
Sure you have. Meanwhile, every goddam 12 year old adlibs some one-liner from Bill The Good Goy Science Guy, and Neil DeShill Tyson all day long.
I mean, did you actually listen to what the guy said, or does the existence of edgy teenagers who have read Nietzsche's wiki page make you discount everything he has ever said?
>>1023028
Knowing how to use what you learned is as important as learning those ticky trig substitutions. Accounting isn't just add this and multiply this you know, it also has some complicated mathematical work. It's like the people who think they should learn statistics instead of calculus because their knowledge of statistics is how to take the arithmetic mean and how to click linreg in a ti-82.
>>1023040
It was not eye opening
>>1022778
>machine translating
Can you do that? Wouldn't there be heaps of errors, thus resulting in a false claim?
>>1022007
because engineering grads own their own factories...right? oh no, wait, your just a cog in apple/microsoft/british oil/ whatever....
>>1023055
Of course it wasn't. Because 2+2=4, is the same as "My moral system is the correct one and yours is wrong" in your head.
>>1022934
the fuck are you saying lmao
most murican high schools require 3 or 4
>>1022415
gotta love that empty bottom-left quadrant
>>1023082
Lol nigga, I'm not even in STEM
>>1021777
You imply that humanities are worthless as fuck, based on an n=1 observation. Go read Popper.
/his/ major who was quad stem junior when I switched majors here. I can say from experience that stem lower division is harder than humanities lower division. The opposite is true for upper divisions in terms of workload.
>>1023517
That's not true faggit
>>1022415
>computer programming
>more mathematical than math
I've got a PhD in classics which I found pretty easy to get. Just a lot of language learning over five years but now I'm studying medicine. Not a lot harder in terms of the work, it's just that there is a lot more memorising which takes a shit load more time. The terms are pretty easy to remember since I learned Latin and Greek but I'm regularly putting in 90 hours a week as opposed to 65 with my doctorate.
I've just done my dissertation in BSc Archaeology, I honestly didn't find it that difficult to do, just long. Literally cataloguing artefacts, putting them on a map and analysing their typology and styles. It was a fun project because it was original and primary research but it really wasn't challenging beyond putting the effort in to get it done.
>>1021777
Is that article ironic or serious? I really can't decide. There are people who would actually mean this.
>>1021777
Kek. I got a Ba in International Relations, I attended literally like 2 classes / week, didn't do jack and the first time I checked the material was the night before the final exam on each subject. It was really, really hard.
>>1023970
>Is that article ironic or serious? I really can't decide.
Maybe you should have taken a BA.
>>1024063
nice one
>>1022641
>evolution
>controversial
>>1022923
Calculus is barely real math. It's mostly practicing mechanical calculations. It's treated more seriously in later classes on e.g. Real Analysis.
Actual math requires a lot of critical thinking and a decent amount of creativity too. And crazy preservance at times.
>>1023523
It is true. In terms of workload, any 300 level physics course was well staggered and light compared to history courses where you read hundreds of pages daily and write dozens of pages per month. That doesn't even factor into the reality that is senior seminar at my college. For the STEM degrees, your department picks your research, which is not necessarily original in any way, and holds your hand through the project. For my history seminar, I had to write an original thesis using majority primary documentation. My girlfriend is a bio major and for her seminar she just set up cameras in national forest land, went camping and hiking, and documented wildlife migration. The engineering majors fucking turned text into audio files as a way to "securely" transmit date. I can honestly say, I worked harder as an individual than either the bio majors or engineering did as a group.
>>1024453
>My girlfriend is a bio major and for her seminar she just set up cameras in national forest land, went camping and hiking, and documented wildlife migration.
The data collection is far easier (and more enjoyable) than the data analysis though.
>>1024471
In this case, it wasn't. They ended up looking through a total of 600 photos as a group of 10 for porcupines. If they found a porcupine, they'd just mark the camera location and note the reemergence of porcupines in that grid number. STEM a lazy shit.
>>1021909
As someone who has a BA i can confirm this
>majored in English because lazy af
>so fucking bored I quit
Decades later. . . .
>decide to go back to school
>major in math
>get ass kicked
Best thing I ever did. Liberal arts colleges should have all government funding revoked.
>>1022641
>even though the amount of jobs in those fields are limited as fuck
lel
>>1021836
Teach me your ways bait master
>>1024489
Well I did a survey of urban bird species and had good data with reasonable sample size including environmental variables in an ordination.
Reptiles and mammals a best, but it takes much longer to obtain good data.
>>1024504
He's right you know. There are far more STEM majors working outside of their field than in it. That number is growing with the increasing number H1B visas in the West.
>>1024504
I seriously thought that was a book on her head
>>1024512
How much ACTUAL work would you say you did for your senior research project, though?
it's easy enough to bs your way through a BA (i've found that those who talk about how easy it is usually drop out) but to actually do well is something else entirely. it is hard and it's underrated
>>1021909
being american must suck. your country is doomed
>>1021777
What is the point in calculus to the everyday person?
>>1024519
It was by far the most intensive project I completed, and i'm planning to publish a paper from it, I've always liked biology so I coasted a bit through undergrad, but I found the one anthropology course I did easier still.
>>1024549
>It was by far the most intensive project I completed, and i'm planning to publish a paper from it
That doesn't answer my question, faggot.
>>1024556
>How much actual work
Plenty
>That doesn't answer my question, faggot.
Why so salty, are disciplines accurately comparable?
>>1024579
>Plenty
The lack of an actual number or even a guesstimate leads me to believe one of two things: You are making all of this up or you didn't actually put all that much work into your senior research project.
>Why so salty, are disciplines accurately comparable?
In terms of workload? Absolutely. That's what this thread is about and turned into. STEM spergs don't want to admit that they didn't do anything in their upper division courses and that course difficulty and workload remained stagnant through their degree.
>>1024535
That's part of it, though, don't you get it? It's not for "everyday" people.
>CS major
>requires Calc III
>too terrified to try
Years later. . .
>grew a pair
>suffering through basic maths because am idiot
>working hard and finding satisfaction in that
Life is good.
>>1024597
>Life is good.
Just wait until you graduate and you don't find a job in your field because all of your job prospects were outsourced to third and fourth rate coders.
How to write a paragraph for a BA:
> write bullshit
> go to google scholar, check peer reviewed and type in key words
> find random sentence, completely paraphrase it wrong or copy+paste the direct quote
> bullshit your way back to your original bullshit
> bullshit a link between this current bullshit and the next paragraph
BAs are only difficult if you're not a good bullshitter. Even Fine Arts degrees are more difficult and all they do is flick paint at a canvas while opening up a dictionary to let all the adjectives fall out.
>>1024595
If workload is your measure, being a janitor is more difficult. Reading more and writing more doesn't necessarily means harder work.
>>1024606
BAs are difficult if you take them seriously
>>1024615
>being a janitor is more difficult
Than being a desk jockey? That's a no-brainer.
>Reading more and writing more doesn't necessarily means harder work
Doing original primary research is harder work than taking pictures of birds, yes.
>>1024624
If you really think that doing field work is just mindless mechanical job, you have a pretty narrow view of science. I'm not even that biofag and I don't consider that either is harder. Just another dick waving competition for insecure little shits.
>>1024633
Sorry, allow me to rephrase. Taking pictures of birds and determining that there are birds in the photos*
>>1024644
>taking pictures of planets and determining there are planets in the photos
hmmm
>>1024644
:^)
>>1024623
You mean read all the recommended readings?
Because all you really need to do is lift an opinion from /pol/, /int/ or /his/ then use a bit of google-fu on your university's online library database to justify it. Maybe open a thesaurus if you've used the same word too many times? But it really doesn't take much to be sitting at a decent 60-70% average.
BScs require you to remember equations, formulas and other various shit. Its all rote, but still taxing on your memory. BA you can write an essay and forget about it all the next day with ease and there's not a single issue with that.
>>1024644
I'm the biofag, and it was going to dozens of sites for each habitat type specified in my methods, and recording the species present along a transect. more than 100 sites around the city and comparing my data to another data set from 10 years earlier, so it had spatial as well as temporal data comparisons. And just for the honours degree. and there were clear trends observed related to native and introduced species.
>>1021777
>t. arts student
>>1022896
>you can't be open-minded without having a humanities degree
>>1023076
>doesn't understand the post at all
Nice to see all those amazing critical thinking skills on display, those years were really well spent.
>>1022437
>Im majoring in Bio and Philosophy
Holy shit, me too.
>PHI classes require much more critical thinking skills and as a whole are much more challenging.
I haven't had this experience at all. The critical thinking is really easy as long as you naturally approach things from a logical perspective. Memorizing the huge number of things you need to know for bio classes is more challenging.
>>1023082
>Because 2+2=4, is the same as "My moral system is the correct one and yours is wrong"
According to the guy in the video that's basically true though, he goes out of his way to exclude stuff that basic but that's about it, beyond the most basic level it's all just subjective according to him, lasers only produce laser beams because physics professors say they do apparently. It's just a typical example of someone who's well educated on one subject trying to give their opinion on a completely different subject and making a total fool of themselves as a result. Maybe everything's just a conflict of different entirely subjective in the humanities but the actual sciences are just a little bit different, by no means perfect but they're not that bad. There's things like "evidence" and "logic" but apparently that's all just window dressing according to this guy, he's seen the real truth that there is no truth!
>>1028032
*different entirely subjective opinions
>>1024604
Do you have any proofs?
>>1021777
Bull-fucking-shit.
I'm about to have my BS, and every humanities course I ever took was a free A, however advanced. A fucking retard could 4.0 a BA.
>>1022886
>STEM is largely based around rote memorization
Annihilate yourself. Memorizing methods in STEM is the equivalent of knowing words in the humanities. The true work of STEM is applying what you've learned to new problems and angles.
>>1028465
To be fair, the math courses given to people in BAs are also free As. People just don't understand how to properly study math.
I did Ancient History BA at Manchester, unlike most of the other departments the Classics departments had non-political staff, lectures were pretty good and workshops were actually pretty decent (dependent on the class).
These sorts of subjects are easy to pass, but difficult to do particularly good in unless you are genuinely interested in your subject, are pretty competent and put the work in. STEM seems to have a lot of braindead, foreigners in it who seem to pass with flying colours despite being fairly retarded.
>>1024606
You must have been at an awful institution.
>>1022881
Faggot
>>1021865
>It's the only major where you can press your Professor up against a bar wall and make-out with.
Saucy.
>>1023976
>I got a Ba in International Relations
Were you able to do anything with it?
I'm thinking about getting a political science degree because I'll almost certainly have time for it with the availability of my EE classes.
>>1022187
it blew my mind when I heard about maths education in the US. Everyone here at the very least gets an introduction to calculus, but you can finish American high school without ever touching trigonometry
>>1024499
how far did you make it in math?
>math major with two years to go here
>>1031544
>STEM seems to have a lot of braindead, foreigners in it who seem to pass with flying colours despite being fairly retarded.
A lot of STEM is filled with people who are basically aspie tier as well.
I always get into these dumb as shit arguments with STEM students where they say something stupid outside of their field (say about history or sociology whatever) then when you try to correct them, they double down and you get into these stupid as fuck debates over some retarded thing that makes often literally no sense (for example a debate I often got into was for some reason my STEM friends kept on thinking the church in rome was Christianity, while the wider religion was Catholicism).
There is also this weird tunnel vision STEM students get, where they will focus entirely only one tiny little point of the argument, which then they will argue about, then they will focus on one tiny point of that, then argue about that, so within 15 minutes your arguing about something completely fucking different that's completely fucking stupid beyond belief.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE4LVSESyXc"
Silicon Valley even made a joke about it.
>>1021836
I don't agree that it's easier, but I will say it's harder to be certain with a BA what grade you can expect.
If you're doing something where there's an absolute right answer, you can make completely sure you got it right. In arts shit you're basically at the mercy of your professor/TA's opinion.
>>1021909
Once wrote an essay which praised Plato and bashed democracy as a shitty system of government to a democratic Socialist and still got an A-
Once wrote an essay suggesting we needed stronger government and gave it to a Libertarian professor and got an A+
>>1021865
>I have a Masters in History and I can assure you I did it in my sleep.
Can confirm, currently doing one at 2x the recommended speed.
>>1032568
>In arts shit you're basically at the mercy of your professor/TA's opinion.
Is this just an American thing? In the UK at least the academics outside of shit like Colonial Theory keep their politics and beliefs generally out of the lecture theatre and especially when it comes to marking.
>>1032605
What? Libertarians want less gov not more.
>>1034283
>Libertarians want less gov not more.
That's exactly his point. He's trying to convey that the professors political ideology is not a major factor in what grades you get.
>>1022428
I don't know, with a good textbook you can teach yourself maths.
The only topic that really needs university training is one that trains you in the use of specialist equipment.
>>1021777
The Tab is trash and not to be taken seriously.
>>1022007
Honestly I would be happy with my life if I were like that deli owner. He has a respectable job and can support himself. He probably has a lot of unused brain energy for his literary pursuits too.
>>1033864
No, it's just that americans have this "social sciences are not real sciences" thing where they bash everything proportionnaly to its remoteness from physics.
So they rehash every single cliché concerning humanities. Students in those fields themselve seem to hate themselves (eventhough they still aren't working for shit, I'll give yall that).
>>1022415
I can tell this is bait because any undergrad engineer will tell you that aerospace is simply a branch off of mechanical. In the real world, ME's often take positions meant to be filled by AE's because they have a broader more complete understanding of engineering fundamentals than meme-tier AE's who specialize in a field that currently has very limited applications.
t. A mechanical engineer
