How does a rag-tag volunteer army in need of a shower somehow defeat a global superpower?
Seriously, how?
>>1019670
Ill paid scum of the earth from colonial settlements in red uniforms vs. ill paid scum of the earth from colonial settlements with Prussian military training.
>>1019670
France
>>1019670
French arms, french ships, a french European distraction, and an ocean limiting response time.
>>1019670
Continental European generals, Continental European lend-lease, naval intervention by other superpowers and a group of colonies that just weren't all the fucking worth it at the time. True be told, the war would have ended sooner were it not for Spanish desires in the Caribbean.
>>1019655
LAFAYETTE
>>1019670
Living across the ocean in a time when trips across the Atlantic werent that safe.
Yo, turns out we have a secret weapon. An immigrant you know and love who's unafraid to step in. He's constantly confusing, confounding the British henchmen. Everyone give it up for America's favorite fighting Frenchman!
LAFAYETTE
It wasn't "America vs Britain", it was loyalists supported by Britain vs secessionists supported by France. Basically a civil war.
>>1019670
Britain wasn't a superpower for one.
>>1019714
The French did not get directly involved in the Revolutionary War at the onset.
I feel really awesome that America is the MC shounen hero of the world
>>1019886
What the fuck is that
>>1019670
Ask Vietnam about that.
>>1019712
>>1019714
Not just France, Spain too. And the Dutch in the 4th Anglo-Dutch war (1780-84).
In reality, the American theatre, while important, was not Britain's primary concern during the war. Maintaining control of the seas and strategic naval bases, as well as colonial assets was Britain's top priority.
The Continental Army at no point faced more than a fraction of Britain's land forces, which were largely engaged elsewhere around the Empire, the primary actions of the war being fought on the seas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Siege_of_Gibraltar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Minorca_(1781)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_operations_in_the_American_Revolutionary_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Anglo-Mysore_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain_in_the_American_Revolutionary_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-French_War_(1778–83)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Anglo-Dutch_War
Basically, the American colonial uprising was used as a moment of weakness for France, Spain and other powers to attack Britain all at once, hoping to wrest naval hegemony and what land they could from Britain's hands. While there is no doubt the colonials fought valiantly and, with Prussian tutelage, managed to equal the British forces deployed in the Americas, there was far more at stake for the powers involved than simply the Thirteen Colonies. Ultimately Britain found itself alone, fighting a war on four continents, against a coalition of powerful nations that all sought its destruction, this is why the United States was ceded, because at the time in the grand scheme of things, it was simply an acceptable loss.
>>1019895
Nope. Outside of maybe Yugoslav partisans in WW2, the "rag tag militias" never win. American revolution was all about French troops and navy. Vietnam was America stomping North Vietnam to a pulp and then quitting. Afghanistan was about the USSR going tits up economically.
Your guerilla militias are all shit and never achieved anything
>>1019670
>a global superpower
What are you smoking?
Pic related is the British Empire before the 19th century
Britain wasnt even the most powerful nation in Europe, so dont get me started on world level
As for how peasants defeated them, the answer is by receiving help from two european nations each more powerful than Britain
>>1019883
Directly being the key word
Their indirect help was still the only reason the rebellion could last for most than a few weeks
>>1019759
Actually, it was Galvez.
Distance. How do you get to deploy your troops from Britain to America quickly? Doesn't help France joined in the fight.
>>1019892
He's saying that America is the world's main character, and that the specific genre of fiction of which which we are the main character is the Japanese art form of Shounen (young boy) Anime/manga (cartoons/comics). He's saying this because America like in shounen has gotten stronger over time eventually becoming the most powerful character.
>implying 1775-era GB was a superpower
Thanks for the laugh, OP.
France and Spain allied with the Americans, that's why the Americans won.
>>1019886
>MC Shounen hero
They don't usually get so...persecuty
>>1019977
I blame British propaganda
Most poeople seem to believe the British Empire was a huge superpower that lasted for centuries, when in reality it was just a collection of Aftican and Asian shitholes collected between 1830 and 1880.
Pre-19th century British "Empire" consisted only of the 13 colonies, the Atlantic Canadian coasts and various small islands around the world
>>1019903
But wasn't it stupid of the Brits to invest so little in keeping the 13 colonies? It was a pretty large territory with a lot of resources and a ton of potential for expanding west
>>1020071
You're replying to a British damage control post, in case you didnt notice
The 13 colonies were the largest part of the British Empire, and Britain tried its outmost to keep them
But, as soon as France and Spain got themselves directly involved, Britain (a second-rate european power) was simply not match, so it lost
>>1019670
Oh look another american that doesn't know his country won because the french sent 250k soldiers to fight the 40k british soldiers there
>>1020071
At the time they were not the most valuable colonies Britain needed to protect (Jamaica and other Caribbean islands, along with west African and Indian possessions were all far more strategically and financially important). Also keep in mind that one of the reasons the colonists revolted was because they were territorially restricted, they couldn't expand past the Ohio river, and were bordered by French Louisiana to the west. Nobody at the time would have dreamed one nation could own half of north America, especially not as one colony.
>>1019670
Ask Dutch.
>>1019670
With a ton of French weapons and soldiers, a load of Spanish money and some disinterest of the UK towards the war.
>>1019943
Fuck mang i wanna see it so bad. Also von Steuben was also gay so you'd think SJWs would love him
>>1020309
>the uk
>1770s
Gentle reminder that Hamilton is middlebrow trash for NPR donors
>>1020312
He was German and there is persistent bias if not outright hatred of Germans in the United States. Many Americans of German extraction go to great longs to conceal or Anglicize their identity, unlike Italians, Poles or Irish etc.
Looking at a typical piece of American media, you would not imagine that Americans of German descent were the most common type of American, as compared to the above groups.
Because the nation was founded on this book.
And since the USA is now atheist and liberal, it's a shithole. God has abandoned them.
>>1020324
Germans have zero cultural influence in the United States, especially compared to Plastic Paddies.
Faith.
>>1020325
>baiting this hard on an American shitposting forum
>>1020316
I did it to see if you were paying attention.
>>1019670
>global superpower
Not at the time.
Also the rag-tag volunteer army was backed by the enemies of the "global superpower"
>>1019670
Men fight hard for their homes and loved ones.
>>1019918
I would have to disagree with this. Guerilla militias do achieve things and that is plain and simply inconveniencing the enemy. What makes geurillas a challenge is that they are not just going to conventionally give up. You cant just let them run rampant obviously, but the only way to get rid of them is to absolutely crush them, in every possible manner (supplies, man power, idealogy) which is never an easy undertaking as such efforts normally go beyond how much the larger power is willing to commit to.
In all these conflicts, the reason th guerillas win is because the war becomes something the powerful nation no longer considers to be worth it, which is achieving something.
>>1019670
- Support from other European powers.
- Britain being out of money due to expenses in other military campaigns.
- Britain being too far away to really give a shit.
>>1019670
Ask the Vietnamese
>>1019918
Hussites man
>>1020713
They lost
>>1019737
Best musical so far this century tbqh.
>>1020100
>250k
Oh look, the bongs are grossly exaggerating the number and involvement of french ground troops in the land campaign again.
1. A big fucking ocean.
2. Knowledge of the land
3. Support from the population
>>1019895
Like this.
>>1019918
>"rag tag militias" never win
It's like you don't even study history.
>>1020776
Not that guy, but didn't the Catholic church ultimately compromise with them?
>>1020325
>it's an anon never read the Federalist papers, Jefferson's letter to the Danbury baptists, or the Treaty of Tripoli episode
>>1019670
Shorter military lines of communications (LOCs) help with supplies, fresh troops, intelligence, issuing orders etc
Also France
1. Get pushed around by non-traditional military forces, don't know how to react.
2. Retreat into peninsula.
3. ?????
4. Defeat.
>>1019974
>He being me
>>1019958
Actually, it's almost as if both people made a contribution to the war effort.
But Von Steuben trained literally the entire Continental Army so ya know.
>>1019918
>Vietnam was America stomping North Vietnam to a pulp and then quitting
You realize that America had virtually no hope of turning the war against North Vietnam by the time they left?
>>1019988
>I blame British propaganda
No, the term superpower is just thrown around a lot these days.
The USA and the USSR have only ever been superpowers. The British Empire came close, but failed during World War II.
>>1019918
>Chinese civil war didn't happen
>Mao didn't win
>I have down syndrome
>>1021867
>but failed during World War II.
And WW1 when it fared like another mere great power rather than a hegemon
>>1019670
French siege of Gibraltar
>>1022159
>Mao
>gorilla warfare
Lay off the crack pipe
>>1020325
I want christcucks to leave.
