I want to read feminist theory where should i begin?
>>1009018
Do you read French ?
>>1009018
Second Sex by that French cunt.
You should begin with fucking off back to tumblr.
>>1009037
>Triggered
Aristophanes' Ecclesiazusai is a good start.
>>1009018
An American college.
>>1009044
Hey man, I was actually going to type the exact same thing in reply to his post but now I obviously don't have to. Thanks for making my life a little bit easier.
>>1009047
>Aristophanes' Ecclesiazusai is a good start.
>>1009018
Start with Margaret Fuller and then work your way to Andrea Dworkin and Judith Butler so you can see how feminism started as a respectable individualist movement and got hijacked by pseudo-intellectual Marxist parasites.
>>1009081
Feminism was never respectable
>>1009107
This
>>1009037
Someone needs a safe space it seems
>>1009122
This is my safe space.
>>1009018
>where should i begin?
You shouldn't.
From Nietzsche
Sartre's girlfriend is where you should start and also stop probably.
>>1009147
His opinion on women at the time was practically just wax poetics of an already socially vocal idea.
>>1009198
Is it possible for a feminist to be not ugly?
>>1009211
By pushing that meme you're just proving them right. You know that, right?
>>1009211
Is it possible for a female non-movie star over 40 to not be ugly?
Your mother doesn't count, even though I fucked her. The pussy game's ridiculous.
>>1009211
>>1009233
His trips win over your dubs
>>1009222
That's not a meme, it's a fact.
>>1009226
You can't fuck a person if you don't have a penis, Amanda.
>>1009147
>trash-talking Ibsen, the only good thing Norway has ever produced
as expected from the mememan
>>1009147
>The Eternal Feminine
god damn it
>>1009018
why?
>>1009322
He also shits a lot on Kierkegaard who is otherwise held to a pretty high standard.
Reading Nietzsche is honestly really really easy. It's all just a matter of being able to seperate his opinions from your own and then reflecting a bit.
>>1012071
He is but it's unnecessary to read theory modern feminists don't even use when Foucault discusses 3rd wave feminism and its societal effects.
I mean sure if he wants to read feminist theory read what's listed here >>1009081
But if he wants to understand why feminism evolved the way it did, which I assume, then he should just skip straight to Foucault.
>>1009058
Except you responded with an even longer post
>>1009018
feminism installs of doctrine of rape : that women cannot lie when they claim to be raped.
feminists thrive on rape, because they have nothing else to say.
all these people doing humanist chatting is about feeling less hedonistic than they are.
this is why women thrive in liberal doctrines: they manage to appear less egotistic than they are, in claiming to talk ''about issues'' which are remote to them, such as children in hack countries, minorities in their won towns/society and other causes.
>>1012122
>it's a sweeping generalizations and strawman episode
>>1009018
a cookbook
>>1009018
Modern Feminism (the legit kind) comes from Krenshaw and the Combahee River Collective. The pop-culture version of feminism isn't worth your time. For older forms of feminism, there's Freidan, Shelley, Goldman, etc.
> ITT: people hating feminism because they are too afraid to be at equal field with females
>>1014148
We will never be equal. No amount of feminism will change that.
>>1014148
>deluding yourself this hard
What does /his/ think of women being able to provide for themselves depriving men the instinctual need to provide for their families which results in a shift of power which is probably why most marriages fail?
>>1009018
By gargling bleach. It's less painful.
>>1009018
Damn that woman has a nose
>>1014336
Nuh its more about the lack of stigma againts Divorce and the lack of Meddling from Relatives
The Main difference between now and then that nowdays Society encourages Women to divorce over the smallest thing
>>1009018
Feminism literally destroyed education
>>1014397
>>1014219
This.
The world is not made with the struggle between two equal forces. One must overshadow the other in order for progress to be possible.
Not to mention that women have no idea how humans work.
>>1009018
The third sex by Eric zemmour
Schopenhauer
Rousseau
Kant
>>1009037
I like how 4chan says this shit but gets equally "triggered" at fenenist liberal shit.
>>1014410
> women have no idea how humans work.
contrary to high social and psychological wisdom of basement outcasts
>>1014418
THIS
>>1014336
>what does his think
>let me give the definitive answer in the same fucking sentence though
why do so many spastics do this?
have you ever considered the fact that holy matrimony just might not be what we are really striving for and that it is slowly dieing?
i can only speak for myself; i personally cannot imagine a polyamorous relationship working for me. jealousy would probably get in the way, doesn't matter from which side. i think monogamy is a decent concept and probably the best we have at the moment. women being self-sufficient does not challenge monogamy at all.
(maybe if you're some pathetic subhuman who feels a desperate need to prove his relevancy and manliness by "providing" for someone else they perceive as a weaker being.. but surely that is not you, right?)
>depriving men the instinctual need to provide for their families
an instinct.. a fucking instinct? are you retarded?
are you saying that every single black father is acting against his own instinct by leaving his family? :^)
>it's a men with a severe lack of self-awareness call women stupid and inferior so thus feminism is dumb episode
>>1014418
>oh look at me I'm taking the fair and balanced approach aren't I so cool
John Stuart Mill is objectively the only feminist philosopher who doesn't discard basic rationality in order to argue for it.
>>1014433
>being this fucking salty that he's right
>>1014419
>imma call him a neckbeard to refute his point
Women have an intelligence that has no place outside townships
>>1014433
>Oh look at me, I'm automatically shifting to one extreme as a reaction to a current extreme. One side always has the answers lads.
>feminism
Probably the single worst thing a society has done to itself
>>1014449
Most people can't grasp the basic of psychology in general be they males or females.
>>1014452
>oh look at me I'm making implications and acting cool and balanced on a Taiwanese cartoon image forum's history and humanities section. Aren't I so above the general site?
>>1014449
Not him but an edgy statement without any credible support is not an argument and belongs on /pol/
>>1014453
> woman now can vote
> THE GREATEST TRAGEDY OF ALL TIMES
Not even close dude.
>>1014418
Feminism literally has no place here
Like honestly I'd say it's one of the few thoughts that just goes against this site to the very core
>>1014464
Nope.
>>1014479
Well, how are you defining femenism? If you mean 3rd wave, the I agree.
>>1014481
> how well that's working out
Very well compared to conservatives and far rights who killed their own people in millions in two world wars.
>>1014418
It's literally just reactionary bullshit.
>>1014502
>lel you mad bro? xD
go back to 9gag you meme-loving subhuman
>>1009211
I know this is meme bait but have you seen Emma Watson? She's hot and a feminist.
>>1014470
I mean that was a horrible thing
Women are easily swayed by shit like the media
They don't really think about politics
They would just as easily vote for a genocidal maniac as they would a cute guy if they were presented in equally positive lights by the propaganda masters
But on all levels women have fucked over society with their found rights
You name an aspect of society and I can tell you how women's rights and feminism has harmed it
>>1014502
We feel bad for you.
>Being this beta 4chan
Enjoy being left behind when people get tired of /pol/.
>>1014491
None of that is new you dumb fuck
You argue like a girl you fat fuck
Grow some balls
>>1014518
mao got into power because of women?
>>1014467
>Oh look, I'm acting like an extremist on a Mongolian meme site ECKS DEE
>>1014518
> communist like Mao
Mao wasn't relied on woman support.
>>1014501
I would say any form of it
From the very beginning it was identity politics
That goes against the core of this which is literally anti-identity
Feminism today has problems but saying it's one of the worst things to happen to humanity is absolutely /pol/-tier. How do they expect people to take them seriously?
>>1014532
Not him but
>I'm surprised people on this site have extreme thoughts
Like really?
>>1014527
actually systematic genocide like it happened in the 20th century has never been seen in that magnitude before.
nothing is new under the sun. there were countries where women had the same political relevance as men long before they had voting wrights in the west, so that isn't new either.
>>1009018
All you need to know:
>Men are bad m'kay
>>1014550
Being liberal on /his/ is like debating Healthcare in California. It's more liberal, but it's still in America. /his/ is on 4chan so expect /pol/ to pop up a lot.
>>1014558
Name the countries with all these women voters
I dare you
Rulers do not count
Mass style politics and feminism do not go together
>>1014519
As if feminism is the pinnacle of humanity's strife. The narcissism in that perception alone is the byproduct of female narcissism.
>>1014529
>>1014533
The left is not based on women alone, no, but feminism is a product of ideas like that which Mao had. Hell, he said the exact same things that Bernie supporters are saying. Women's rights are not an issue at all anymore, but politicians looking to instill their communist and socialist ideas are pandering to women with feminism and all this equality bullshit. And women eat it up. That's why widespread female empowerment is a bad thing, because they will take anything they hear which makes them feel good and make sure the world runs with it, even though the world is not a place full of puppies and unicorns. And NOTHING will change that
>>1014570
>anyone who isn't a radical socialist authoritarian is /pol/
wew lad
>>1014553
No. I'm not surprised at all. Just tired of it. I don't like people being mindlessly liberal, but I hate it as much when people are mindlessly conservative. Moral of the story, use your brains. That's all.
>>1014517
> They don't really think about politics
Any way to back that up? Voters in general don't think about politics and men can be just as easy influenced by populists or the media.
>>1014570
You people are as bad as the fucks that cry tumblr (and you out number them too)
If you don't like it you can leave
There are so many sites that basically this same boards function but agree with your biases
>>1014590
I didn't say, or even imply that. Actually reading my arguments makes that clear.
>>1014598
I'd prefer /pol/ stayed on their board :^)
>>1014594
Youre assuming that these people are being mindlessly anti feminist but I'd argue that they aren't
It's not like any real debate has even occurred itt and you're already prejudging them
And you say THEY'RE being mindless
>>1014590
Yet anyone who isn't KKK is reddit huh?
>>1014430
Females are weaker, you know.
>>1014578
the aztec empire, matter of fact many indo-american empires and tribes had political equality
in the west the process already started in the 18th century with exceptions, like in sweden
19th century women in new zealand were allowed to vote, also some states in the US
you could just not be a drooling retard though and just google it, which would have given you this result:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_women%27s_suffrage#18th_century
>>1014612
>Youre assuming that these people are being mindlessly anti feminist but I'd argue that they aren't
I'm not talking about Femenism. I'm just talking about extremity. Furthermore my decision is based on "Feminism R bad" comments I'm reading. Is it? Nowadays yes, but it once served a good purpose.
>>1014595
Nope none whatsoever.
Other than the general reading level of American presidential speeches going down in line with the vote getting expanded
And that's a correlation at best
I'm just not going to assume an egalitarian pretense on the subject
>>1014590
>anyone that doesn't like /pol/ is a radical socialist
>>1014616
> Females are weaker
Except it's other way around
Females literally outlives males
>>1014612
It's 4chan, he's not wrong to make that assumption.
>>1014612
>Youre assuming that these people are being mindlessly anti feminist but I'd argue that they aren't
yeah, saying feminism is the worst thing that has ever happened in any human society ever sure isn't mindless. it's perfectly sane...
>>1014616
physically? yes, generally speaking. no, individually speaking. ronda rousey would most definitely kick your ass.
>>1014642
Men take greater risks and produce greater feats of strength.
>>1014640
is this honestly your reply?.. man, you're pathetic.
what are we talking about?
>>1014509
Kek leftists killed a lot more than any right winger. Stalin alone beats any conservative dictator in kills
>>1014621
Wow some random 18th centaury states
You sure showed me and disproved my argument
I guess mass politics and feminism is a good thing
Golley gee
Source me on those Indo American empires being politically equal
>>1014651
Maybe but life expectancy speaks for itself.
>>1009119
>most powerful woman
As a figurehead with little actual political authority she had almost no power. You don't have to use misinformation to make her quote more meaningful.
>>1014650
Oh I'm sorry you're right
This site should be acting really nice and not use extreme langauge
>>1014668
> stalin
> was feminist
is this a meme or he was actually one?
>>1014678
Bait.jpg
>>1014678
How did that longevity equal strength
>>1014621
As opposed to ancient Egypt where women never held the throne in the Old and Middle Kingdoms, when the bulk of their monuments was constructed. The religious scholars almost never made theologies about goddesses alone. They were always at a male figure's side
>>1014685
So... Who was most powerful woman in history?
>>1014650
Dude are you serious? The male version of Rousey will ALWAYS win. Why is this even a thing people argue about?
>>1014687
And not act like an idiot, but hey, why do that when you could just say Femenism is the worst thing to happen to humanity? Makes me look edgier.
>>1014689
Wasn't talking about feminists but left wing dictators vs right wing. And communism by nature is feminist
>>1009018
Don't
>>1014701
Humanity =\= society which was the original quote but hey keep memeing kid
>>1014694
Key word in survival of the fittest is the survival. The only strength that matters in the end is being able to survive and women are clearly better in this.
>>1014673
>name those countries
>i dare you
>oh well those countries aren't relevant anyway teehee
>but please do give me a source
how about you fuck off and choke on a dick :^)
>>1014700
I'd wager the average guy could beat her if he wasn't held back by the stigma of not hitting a women
BOYS VS GIRLS
>>1014705
You could easily argue that Hitler killed more people by starting war and such.
>>1014714
I think you got the wrong guy, your response doesn't make sense.
>>1014650
>pitting an average man with a woman who lives on MMA and daily rigorous exercises proves my point
Female logic
Are there any writers on feminism that predicted what happens today? (eg. women having this much power with men while only the top 20% of men get anything)
>>1014714
That doesn't make it as less extreme as you think it does. You didn't even respond ro his argument.
>>1014719
Because society allows them to stay comfy while a man does all the hard work
>>1014734
Valerie Solanas
>>1014719
a woman that lives for 90 years is in no way more suited for survival than one who live 50 years since the kids are what matters
>>1014728
Hitler is left wing. Nazism is literally socialism. Plus stalin had a kill count going before and after the war
>>1014732
> physical strength even being relevant today
Even crazy African dictators aren't literally the strongest blacks in their countries.
>>1014719
>women are clearly better
Delusional narcissism
I bet you all will go and cry saying that /his/ is misogynistic after all this ass kicking
>>1014687
i forgot that edginess is something to strive for when you're a sixteen year old, sorry my man
>>1014700
but that's exactly what i said you retard. i suggest you read the post again.
>>1014699
probably lizzy
>>1014705
>communism by nature is feminist
this is so retarded i don't even know what to say.
>>1014748
>communism by nature is matriarchal
Might be what they were getting at
>>1014740
> kids are what matters
I bet more women have kids today than men.
>>1014336
Not really. Women are simply more likely to divorce nowadays because there is no more stigma attached to the practice.
Back in the olden days, a divorced person would be ridiculed and often socially ostracised. Now it's ordinary or even cherished, so why not do it.
>>1014743
> Nazism is literally socialism
Like North Korea is literally democratic
>>1014748
I'm not referring to some whacky 3 wave castration feminism but what it was in the beginning equality. Everyone is supposed to be equal in communist societies
>>1014763
They could be if they vote for their leader.
>>1014732
that's exactly my point you amoeba. women generally speaking are physically weaker, but individually speaking there will always be a woman that can beat your pansy ass.
fuck you niggers are dense.
>>1014743
what the fuck is wrong with you? hitler is left wing? do you have shit for brains nigger?
national socialism is a fraud, it has nothing to do with socialism. if anything hitler specifically empowered companies like the ig farben for war machinery, the only private property he ever seized was jewish gold and art you drooling retard.
germany was capitalist under hitler.
>>1014747
> Delusional narcissism
Women live longer and have more chance to have a kids than men. From biological point of view nothing else matters.
>>1014743
>Hitler is left wing. Nazism is literally socialism.
The thought that people like this exist and actually post on this board just makes me feel embarrassed coming here. What's it even worth debating for if you find out that at the other end of the line is someone with the knowledge of a sub-Saharan African that has never gone to school.
>>101477
No need to be triggered by history anon.
>>1014768
so really what you are saying is egalitarianism, not feminism is inherent to communism.
>>1014788
If you want to word it that way
If feminists would redefine their doctrine as equal access rather than equal status then we would have no issues. Because America is definitely equal access, and men are proving their worth over women by example
>>1014778
Good luck having an argument outside that TINY niche called social Darwinism
>>1014775
Pic related
>>1014783
Tell me how a socialist party isn't socialist
>>1014748
> this is so retarded
How it is retarded? The only countries where womens have better human development index than men are post soviet countries like Russia, Ukraine, Poland, Mongolia, Estonia and such. Socialists promoted all females into such good positions that it still exist even today, 25 years later. Talk about real results instead of tumbler style activism here.
>>1014751
what are you even trying to say
>>1014797
By being against communists and socialists?
>>1014783
National Socialism
German: Nationalsozialismus, short for Nazism
Sad
>>1014814
*shortened
>>1014811
He believed in German superiority, a laughable joke seeing how Anglos are better in every way, that didn't take away from the fact he was socialist
>>1014814
> Holy Roman Empire
> German: Heiliges Römisches Reich
You shouldn't trusting german autists with names
>>1014797
hmmhmmhmhm let me see maybe by KILLING SOCIALISTS, COMMUNISTS AND SOCIAL DEMOCRATS FOR THEIR OPINION?????
I genuinely hope you die in a fire you peace of shit
>>1014719
>pampered and protected by society
>Not given the bulk amount of fatal risks in society
>WE IZ STRANG WOMEN N' SHEEEIITT
>>1014830
so I guess the USSR wasn't communist because they killed communists all the time?
>>1014825
He wouldn't fight with USSR if he was a real one.
>>1014814
Ich bin selber deutscher du Untermensch...
If you genuinely think that the NSDAP was socialist you have to kill yourself.
I already told you that Hitler PRIVATIZED the industry. It's the complete opposite of communism. the polar opposite. how fucking retarded can you be, nigger?
>>1014825
Can we not be edgy for like, 5 seconds? Please?
>>1014834
Get it straight. They don't killed communists. Just burgouise agents and treacherous elements.
>>1014843
No, fuck off.
>>1014834
Oh so the USSR killed communists for BEING COMMUNISTS? that's what they killed them for?
you are so fucking dense jesus christ
>>1014852
I mean, Lenin killed Trotsky for being a different brand of communist, so yeah?
>>1014851
No, be less edgy.
>>1009018
With a bullet in your head.
>>1014797
Because they were not the socialist sect of the party.
The actual socialist sect was the SA, and they were killed off before they could start the second revolution.
>>1014858
Never.
Suck on my edge, choke on it.
>COMMUNISM wants to get corporations under state rule
>HITLER privatized corporations
>COMMUNISM follows command economy
>HITLER was opportunistic, creating jobs when he needed to
>COMMUNISM abolishes private property
>HITLER doesn't do anything of the sort
yeah, clearly a gommunist!! debate is over
>>1014857
> Lenin killed Trotsky
absolute baka
>>1014836
What part of he was a German supremacist that thought that Russians were sub human ruled by jews don't you understand
>>1014857
Stalin killed trotsky you imbecile, not lenin.
he killed him because he was a threat, just like lenin was a threat to him. fuck
It is clear that an argument was barely had in this thread and proved to be fruitless for feminists, who have now resorted to being edgy and telling everyone to fuck off, along with calling everyone niggers
Absolutely brilliant ladies, you have proved our point even further
>>1014875
To be honest Hitler was trying to redefine socialism, instead of it being state controlled, the state strong arms corporations into doing what is good for the people. Even came up with the idea of a "fourth branch" (in American terms) of government, Volk army, peoples milita to service out any wrong doings.
>>1014888
They were still communists. The old guard of the nazi party were threats to hitler so they were killed. Didn't make hitler any less of a socialist
>>1014901
Hitler was by no means a "classical" socialist.
It's an interesting discussion that gets ignored for obvious reasons, but this thread is about feminism.
>>1014901
Hitler was a far right socialist anyway.
>>1014875
Pretty sure his treatment of corporations was instilled with regulation that led to the creation of the Gestapo, when it was heard that people were buying shit on the black market.
>>1014909
Yeah but there is no discussion on femenism. It's supporters stopped arguing and started throwing shit every where
>>1012058
>Read some Foucault he got it right.
>>1014857
>Lenin killed Trotsky
WHY ARE YOU ON A HISTORY BOARD
>>1014913
You can't be far right and socialist
>>1014924
>this retard
>>1014857
Jesus Christ how horrifying
>>1014928
Mind trying to prove your point instead being triggered and getting your panties in a twist
>>1014941
He was capitalist.
>>1014930
Please just stop embarassing yourself
>>1012068
You've obviously only read Nietzsche as an aphorist and not as a philosopher.
http://phys.org/news/2016-04-viking-site-north-america.html
>Viking snowniggers land in America
>Ragtag bunch of misfits of primitive tribes with sticks kick their asses in a second and make them go home crying for mommy
>TWICE
>Spaniards reach America
>Destroys one of the greatest empires that the continent had ever seen
>Colonizes it in a few years
>Takes over most of it for 300 years
When did you take the redpill and accepted that Southern Europe > Nothern Europe, /his/?
>>1014971
Don't know the point of your post you quoted no one called Hitler a communist
>>1014993
You got the wrong thread.
Why so many assblasted idiots itt?
You can read and be knowledgeable about things you disagree with.
>>1014993
What the fuck is this
>>1014900
he wasn't trying to redefine socialism, he wanted to appeal to as many voters as possible
what socialist policies did he adopt? go ahead
>instead of it being state controlled
that is literally what socialism is about..
>Even came up with the idea of a "fourth branch" (in American terms) of government, Volk army, peoples milita to service out any wrong doings.
what does this have to do with socialism? it's irrelevant to the discussion
>>1014917
how is the geheime Staatspolizei in anyway relevant to the discussion of whether he was a socialist or not? what is your point?
>>1014966
and when hitler said they merely "deported" the jews that automatically makes it correct, yes?
give me a fucking reason you imbecile, i don't give a shit about your quote. he never introduced socialist policies and he clearly introduced capitalist policies, as i already outlined. your point is moot.
>>1014930
We are socialists because we see in socialism, that is the union of all citizens, the only chance to maintain our racial inheritance and to regain our political freedom and renew our German state.
Socialism is the doctrine of liberation for the working class. It promotes the rise of the fourth class and its incorporation in the political organism of our Fatherland, and is inextricably bound to breaking the present slavery and the regaining of German freedom. Socialism therefore is not merely a matter of the oppressed class, but a matter for everyone, for freeing the German people from slavery is the goal of contemporary policy. Socialism gains its true form only through a total combat brotherhood with the forward-striving energies of a newly awakened nationalism. Without nationalism it is nothing, a phantom, a mere theory, a castle in the sky, a book. With it it is everything, the future, freedom, the Fatherland!
The sin of liberal thinking was to overlook socialism's nation-building strengths, thereby allowing its energies to go in anti-national directions. The sin of Marxism was to degrade socialism into a question of wages and the stomach, putting it in conflict with the state and its national existence. An understanding of both these facts leads us to a new sense of socialism, which sees its nature as nationalistic, state-building, liberating and constructive.
The bourgeois is about to leave the historical stage. In its place will come the class of productive workers, the working class, that has been up until today oppressed. It is beginning to fulfill its political mission. It is involved in a hard and bitter struggle for political power as it seeks to become part of the national organism. The battle began in the economic realm; it will finish in the political.
>>1014997
are you purposefully being dense? i outlined how hitler enacted CAPITALIST policies as opposed to communist (or socialist) policies.
>>1015004
Hitler was opposed to Jews who got all money so he was a left. They hate rich people.
>>1015004
>he never introduced socialist policies and he clearly introduced capitalist policies, as i already outlined. your point is moot.
The nationalization of industry is quite literally public ownership of the means of production. He had plenty of gibs as well. Not capitalist by any means.
>>1015004
>REGULATION
>corporations had REGULATIONS which led to the Gestapo because people didn't like it
http://www.marxist.com/venezuela-scarcity-speculation-socialism160507.htm
I'm getting annoyed at your inability to read between the lines, or to even read
>>1015014
He enacted many policies that were unique to government.
>>1015008
But was Hitler a feminist? That is a real question. You quoted how he disagrees with Marxists so it is impossible to draw connection here to modern day leftists anyway.
>>1015029
This thread is so haywire that you're right.
>>1015023
>The nationalization of industry
give me an example then, because I already gave one of him privatizing industry
>>1015037
Yet feminists love Bernie Sanders
>>1015047
Except they love Hillary.
>>1015037
Hitler was not a "feminist" as it is modernly described, but many women fucking loved him.
Women were pampered in his society.
>>1015030
>corporations had regulations
go ahead and name me some corporations and said regulations then.
>>1015052
Unless you're a basement dwelling lesbian, it's easy to observe that many if not most college feminists want Bernie
Hopefully we can agree that their taste is shit though
>>1015047
Lel no they do not
>>1015041
Nationalizing a lot of manufacturing.
The NSDAP was much more socialist than Bernie Sanders or any Nordic country to be honest.
You can claim he just used socialist rhetoric in propaganda, and you'd be wrong, but that's what socialism has always been about: tricking poor people into voting for you.
>socialists desperately trying to distance the national socialists from socialism
Sorry m8. I know all your communist sympathyzing professors told you that socialism and fascism are antithetical, and that Hitler was an evil capitalist dictator just like Pinochet and Reagan, but they're wrong.
You're wrong. It's not your fault though, this is just what you've been conditioned to believe.
>1931: Nationalization of Dresdner Bank and Commerzbank
>reverted under Adolf Hitler
>NSDAP has actual socialists in the party: Otto & Georg Strasser
>leave the party 1933 because Hitler clearly wasn't interested in Socialism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Strasser
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Strasser
> "gegenüber den verlogenen Auslegungen von seiten unserer Gegner ... die NSDAP auf dem Boden des Privateigentums steht."
literally: The NSDAP is standing on the ground of private property
This debate is over.
>>1015086
It doesn't bother me that people aren't into socialism
It bothers me that people like you are allowed to vote in US elections, don't they know we have atomic weapons
>>1015062
I had a video for you but I'm having trouble finding it
>>1015086
> b-b-b-but it in its name!
More like you desperately trying to pin up socialism on Hitler at this point.
>What does anti-Semitism have to do with socialism? I would put the question this way: What does the Jew have to do with socialism? Socialism has to do with labor. When did one ever see him working instead of plundering, stealing and living from the sweat of others? As socialists we are opponents of the Jews because we see in the Hebrews the incarnation of capitalism, of the misuse of the nation’s goods.
>I can love Germany and hate capitalism. Not only can I, I must. Only the annihilation of a system of exploitation carries with it the core of the rebirth of our people.
>>1015092
>nazis had private property so they were not socialist
I suppose every other socialist nation was not socialist either.
>>1015112
it's okay, at least you're trying to actually debate. you're the only sane anon hailing from the "other side" and you're the only one that doesn't make my fucking blood boil.
>>1015130
Obviously anon doesn't know what socialism is and should leave the thread
>>1015135
Even though we started on feminism
>>1015135
>triggered
>>1015092
>h-he privatized a couple things guys!
>THIS DEBATE IS OVER
The Nazi Party election programs supported nationalization of major industries, though the Nazi government included a few actual policies of privatization in the 1930s.[25] Between the fiscal years 1934/35 and 1937/38, privatization was a small source of revenue for Germany’s Treasury, representing only 1.4 percent of total fiscal revenues.[26]
>>1015130
the point is that they privatized the two single most important banks that were nationalized before. are you illiterate? it's not about private property at all, it's about corporations.
>>1015123
>When did one ever see him working instead of plundering, stealing and living from the sweat of others?
plundering and stealing like the Sturmabteilung did in the Kirstallnacht? living from the sweat of others like the nazis did with labour camps?
>>1015163
Sounds like a socialist system. One group of people living off the hard work of others
>>1015161
those were the two biggest banks germany had (and has actually, at least commerz is still fairly big).
>a couple things
my ass.
>Between the fiscal years 1934/35 and 1937/38, privatization was a small source of revenue for Germany’s Treasury, representing only 1.4 percent of total fiscal revenues.[26]
no wonder, most of manufacturing was already nationalized before hitler even came to power. but you wouldn't know that.
>>1015171
>One group of people living off the hard work of others
your understanding of socialism is infantile and your humor is as funny as self proclaimed poetry slam comedians
>>1015180
Sorry i triggered you
>>1009018
Theophrastus' Golden Book
Nazis practically had a centally planned economy. Just google it a little bit. Jesus christ you yuropoors and berniecucks are cringey.
Nazi Germany was more socialist than any "socialist" nation around today, aside from Venezuela and North Korea.
>>1009018
Mainstream feminist theory is dominated by groups that take advantage over women's fear of sexism, they not only oppose genuine sexism, they accuse anything besides their own dogma of being sexist, subjects you would think are important like evolutionary and behavioral psychology are much maligned.
So obviously the best place to start is evolutionary and behavioral psychology.
>>1015223
>north korea
>socialist
stop posting, this is getting embarrassing.
>>1015101
Fascism is not synonymous with National Socialism
>>1014778
>and have more chance to have a kids than men
Whut? Women lose their ability to have kids at ~45 while men can continue seedin' till the end of their life.
>>1015373
Not him, but who owns the means of production in NK if not the state then?
>>1012090
Thats the joke idiot
>>1009018
The inside of my ass
