Does Linux really count as a UNIX?
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Does Linux really count as a UNIX?
Nope, it's not certified to be one.
>>55591188
Not in the strict sense, but we can call Linux a Unix like OS aka *nix.
>>55591354
OS X is actually certified.
>>55591188
No, just like Windows NT isn't DOS or Windows 9x just because they share similar command line and graphical environments (respectively)
If it doesn't derive from a Unix codebase at its core, it's not Unix.
>>55591209
>>55591383
Certification means jack shit. There are GNU/Linux systems certified as UNIX, for example, like Inspur's K-UX. Plus, making a clone that can pass as Unix doesn't make it Unix, it just makes it a clone of Unix.
OS X is actual Unix though, in the sense that it's a direct descendant of 4.3/4.4BSD
>>55591188
>GNU's Not Unix!
What did RMS mean by this?
>>55591383
OS X's kernel isn't even fully Monolithic.
Linux is closer to UNIX, even if it isn't certified.
>>55591188
No, linux was initially designed to be like unix but linux is not unix.
There's the UNIX brand/certification and then there's the Unix philosophy. Things that follow the Unix philosophy are basically a Unix but not always certified to use the brand name. The certification process gives an OS the right to use the branding but only things that apply to the Unix philosophy can be called UNIX.
>>55591502
>>55591761
Wrong.
>>55591424
>5 seconds of Google later
>GNU is a recursive acronym for "GNU's Not Unix!" chosen because GNU's design is Unix-like, but differs from Unix by being free software and containing no Unix code
So not UNIX but still *n?x
>>55591761
>only things that apply to the Unix philosophy
*and have been certified by the Open Group can be called UNIX(or even Unix).
Most systems that are not certified are simply called Unix-like or *nix based or they follow the Unix philosophy but they're not allowed to call themselves any variation of Unix I think.
>>55591188
No.
>>55591383
OS X is both UNIX certified and Unix by lineage.
>>55591502
K-UX is a UNIX certified Linux distro. It's still not Unix because it's not a descendant, it's just made to function similarly.
mandatory pedigree
>>55591775
Not an argument.
>>55591885
So, to use ``UNIX'', the average citizen should either run OSX or (FREE/OPEN)BSD ?
>>55592092
*OS X
And yes
>>55592124
Interesting. I should try some BSD just for meme factor.
>>55591188
Dennis Richie says it is, so yes.
>>55592153
Source
>>55591188
No, because it's a Unix clone. OS X does because it inherits code from NeXTSTEP which inherits code from BSD when it still had original Unix code
>>55592165
First line of the views on computing section of his wikipedia article.
>>55592191
>In an interview from 1999....
I highly doubt he still feels this way.
>>55591188
Yes
>>55592351
I highly doubt he feels anything at all
>>55592351
Anon...
>>55592351
he is
>>55592351
I highly doubt he feels anything at all anymore
>>55592351
Probably not since he's dead.
>>55591188
GNU certifies to be a UNIX like system in a way, Linux isn't too much like MINIX's Kernel but in a way does act as a UNIX so it's a ghetto UNIX clone.
>>55592363
>>55592364
>>55592376
>>55592379
>>55592380
>being dead means you no longer have opinions
He's just no longer bound to his physical form.
>>55591188
linux it's purest form of unix available
>>55591502
But that doesn't mean it isn't a direct Unix descendent.
>>55592124
*macOS
The Linux kernel started off as a MINIX clone.
>>55593094
*OS X
>>55591188
>non-Microkernel kernel
> >>5559182
>systemd
no, Fluck off
>>55593112
*macOS
>>55593139
*OS X
>>55593143
Jesus Christ, grandpa. It's macOS now.
>>55593189
No, it's OS X.
>>55591775 (you)
>>55593137
>doesn't know what a microkernel is
>doesn't know what systemd does
>hates them because it's trendy, giving no reasons
>>55593424
>Mentioned how a linux isn't a microkernel
>Somehow equates to me saying microkernels are bad
> Mention how systemd has been proven to go against proper UNIX conventions, yet are on all popular Linux distros
>trendy
back to /v/ (You) idiot
I dont think so
