AMD dominates in value for money.
Not when you have to replace your motherboard every month.
>>55580920
/thread
please adjust values for motherboard replacement cost
>>55580920
>>55580932
>AMD makes a mistake
>Everyones condemns AMD
>Nvidia screws their users on purpose
>Everyone defends Nvidia
>>55580885
Now if only you could actually buy a 480 for $199, and all games used Vulkan I would buy two 480s right now.
>>55580885
3dmark has always favored nvidia.
>>55580885
so pretty much AMD is for poorfags who live with their moms amirite?
>>55580920
>>55580932
amdrones have facts and logic, nvidiots have memes. amd wins.
>>55580920
LOLOLOLOL You sure showed them.
>>55580885
I see a slight sorting error in that chart. 5460 > 5453
>>55580885
This is true since like the 2k series.
Also why do i see the 480 ahead of the 980 on most benches but this one?
>>55581146
do you think the guys who made that excel graph gave enough of a fuck to check what excel spewed out ?
>>55581146
its nvidia paying people to put their cards first
>>55580885
>AMD
>Budget
Kek
>>55580951
Who the hell defends nvidia?
>>55581819
Shills
According to them
>its ok when nvidia "lies" about memory
>the gtx 480 isnt hot
>Two graphics cards against one is not okay unless nvidia does it. (two gtx 460's is ok since the 480 was not stable enough)
>Its ok when drivers lower performance
>Its ok when an IGP de-solders itself due to the sheer heat.
and the list goes on.
>>55581599
So AMD fails at dx11 drivers and doesn't have anything powerful enough to compete with Nvidia in the high end?
Not buying AMD for a while because of this then, was looking forward to an rx480/470 + Intel i3/zen budget pc.
GTX1060 benchmarks can't come soon enough.
>>55582767
zen is not budget.
>>55582607
When did a gpu unsolder itself? Would love to read about that one.
>>55582795
Zen won't have an i3 competitor?
>>55580885
"Value for money" is another way of saying "Poorfag shitbox builds"
>>55582931
no, zen works in modules, 4 core modules, a two core module can work but with a working 4 core module in the die, a single 2 core module on the die couldnt work unless it had the bandwidth to the cache cut in half.
Zen is just the thing the use in the consoles but in like its final form or something, buffed up and shit.
Still, expect 4 core zen cpu's at i3 prices since amd tends to have better yields idk why, remember you could get a 3 core phenom for the price of an i3 back then i wouldnt be surprised if they did something like that again.
Also all we have to do it wait
>>55581599
this video is old, they reduced overhead drastically last year already, now it's even considered good
>>55583270
>Zen is just the thing the use in the consoles but in like its final form or something
back to /v/ please
>>55583302
Look at the die, look at the console's cpu die.
It works in modules that share cache the entire die looks almost the same you fucking idiot, just improved ipc.
>Le back to /v/eddit amirite XDDDD am i cool yet guise? am i part of your seecreet 4chinz club yet guise XDDDDDD
>>55582889
gtx 590 on torture was on 149c
>>55580885
>AMD dominates in value for money.
not for anyone who doesn't mooch off their mothers, cards like the 390, especially once OCed, draw nearly 400w. the equivalent nvidia cards draw much less, the 970 tops out at 187w unless you voltmod and the 1060 will probably top out at 85-100w.
>>55580885
OP dominates in faggotry per post
>>55583270
Zen's "Module" design is the same as the current APU lineup. 1 core per module. Of course there will be budget dual and quad core options based on Zen.
>>55584156
>Zen's "Module" design is the same as the current APU lineup. 1 core per module.
wut? AMD's APUs are all two 'cores' per modules, which is the bulldozer shared resources shit design.
each core is zen is a real independent core, but they're organized into groups of 4 (you can only disable all 4 physically, any other cores will be disabled through microcode like phenom ii cpus were).
>>55581599
>AMD GPU needs powerful CPU to run
>lellel
I never understand you people.
if you want good single core performance go for Pentium.
>>55584189
Here is image of what this young individual is talking about.
>>55582607
I don't remember anyone saying 480 wasn't hot. The argument was that nobody gives a hoot. Which is just as valid as saying 390x is a decent alternative to Gtx 980 despite taking lots of power and running hot.
And no you can't bring up aib versions because the notion that gtx480 is hot hinges on the reference design.
>>55584329
>The argument was that nobody gives a hoot.
everyone should care about it, having to draw 2x the power (therefore put out twice the heat) just to match the performance of your competitor is pretty shitty. fermi was terrible because of this and so was hawaii.
>>55584365
Hawaii never had 2x the power draw of its competitors. It pulled only 20-30w more than kepler and not to ofar off that against maxwell.
>>55584382
>Hawaii never had 2x the power draw of its competitors.
the 390/390x rebrands do because AMD had to push the clocks and voltage up massively to compete with maxlel.
>>55584477
>perf/watt
That however does not measure actual power draw. Plus that specific 390x is the highest clocked hawaii based card in existence (at 1100mhz core) which a very, very high voltage.
>>55580885
why is the fury x below the titan x when it has a higher score
>>55584858
>That however does not measure actual power draw.
...
>Plus that specific 390x is the highest clocked hawaii based card in existence (at 1100mhz core) which a very, very high voltage.
the msi 390x is 1.25v out of the box, which is stock voltage for the 390x.
>being poor
>>55583302
Zen CPU cores share an fpu cores half per half combined with 8 cores that gives you only 4 real cores with 16 threads and 3ggz max boost under the cache bottleneck since AMD put 6mb for l3 and 512 l2 cache power limited by 95 watts
>>55585062
The fuck are you smoking?
>>55582889
Nvidia sold thousands upon thousands of defective GPUs between 2005 and 2010 in over 50 different models of laptops. There was a class action lawsuit about it[1] that reached settlement. Unfortunately, like most class action lawsuits, the only people that really won were the lawyers.
My sister had one of the models affected by it (HP TX1000). It ran so hot that the GPU desoldered itself from the motherboard. I had to reflow the solder on the motherboard for her (fancy way of saying "Stick that piece of shit in the oven") around four times before it gave up the ghost completely and her laptop became non-functional.
[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20101001080640/http://www.nvidiasettlement.com/index.html
>>55580885
Just imagine Vega
>>55580920
I'm using a GTX 970 but even I know that's bullshit
>>55585062
What the actual fuck are you trying to say?
>>55585112
IKR just avoid laptops with Nvidia cards and get a AMD one with APU if your gonna game on it
The amount of people I know that have had problems with Nvidia cards and just cards that died is just too many to count I mean yeah they do make good graphics cards but AMD cards are far more rekuabke
>pay $800 for a vr device
>can't use it because nvidia can't into displayport
>>55580920
>>55580932
1/10, got me to reply, nevermind that 16.7.[1/2] not only reprogrammed the RX 480 to draw less power from the motherboards, but improved its performance in every area.
oh, let's not forget the fact if you undervolt the top 3 p-state voltages of the 480 in Wattman from 1.400v to 1.050v, you'll not only get an insane reduction in powerdraw, but you'll also run cooler, thus enabling the card to run things faster (because it can hold the boost clocks without getting hot)
but, sure, lets run on outdated information.
faggot
>>55585062
>>55583270
Zen isn't even in production yet, you mongoloid.
>>55585062
The Zen core arch does not use the FlexFPU.
Each core has an independed FPU. They share nothing but an L3.
>>55585648
Summit Ridge entered production a very long time ago. Rev B chips surfaced months back.
>>55585648
We know it runs doom.
