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NEW SKYPE ON LINUX. FULL VERSION, NOT WEB WRAP.
I'M DYING.
https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-for-Linux-Alpha-and-calling-on-Chrome-amp-Chromebooks/td-p/4434299
EXTEND
EMBRACE
EXTINGUISH
>>55554946
https://stallman.org/skype.html
thanks mate, it works.
>>55555022
Because he is a retard, with no certifiable qualities2007: Doctorate honoris causa from the Universidad de Los Angeles de Chimbote, in Peru
2007: Doctorate honoris causa from the University of Pavia
2008: Doctorate honoris causa from the Universidad Nacional de Trujillo, in Peru
2009: Doctor of Science honoris causa from Lakehead University in Canada
2011: Doctorate honoris causa from the Universidad Nacional de Córdoba, in Argentina
2012: Honorary professorship from the Universidad César Vallejo de Trujillo, in Peru
2012: Doctorate honoris causa from the Universidad Latinoamericana Cima de Tacna, in Peru
2012: Doctorate honoris causa from the Universidad José Faustino Sanchez Carrión, in Peru
>>55554954
Anyone have that big Windows blob assimilating the Ubuntu blob with its stomach?
>>55555074
flux is another thing that hasn't been updated for Linux in ages. Why don't you use redshift? If you set your location manually, it works perfectly.
>>55555077
Why HUEs like him so much?
>>55554954
With Skype? Are you literally retarded? You couldn't name a single thing that MS has ever done with EEE in the last 20 years.
>>55555139
same respond for every screenshot i send.
redshift doesn't work properly on my x201i. it only applies some kind of black gamma instead of red/yellow no matter how i alter the config file shared here http://jonls.dk/redshift/, flux on the other hand just works after i enter my loc:lat.
>>55554946
What the fuck is wrong with you. Who were your parents? How were you raised? Why are you such and awful piece of shit?
>>55555145
bunch of dirty commie favela monkeys.
>>55555077
>no certifiable qualities
Except the whole "created a whole goddamn OS" thing. Let me know when you've done something even close to that with your real degr--oh, you probably don't have one of those either.
Fucking shill.
>>55555203
>created a whole goddamn OS
hahaha, you're one of THOSE
Everyone remember to thank google. Without google, you would not have received a new version, you 2%er sub-humans.
>>55555209
300 rupees have been deposited to your account pajeet.
>>55555209
>THOSE
People with intelligence? Common sense? A grip on reality?
Help me out here.
>>55555203
stallman is not a philosophically pure person. he follows his ideals when convenient, and ignores them or slightly alters them when the conflict isn't worth it.
stallman is an egoist in denial, afraid of admitting that he just wants some fucking source code instead of a world where he has to rely on other people because he knows he wouldn't get it that way.
his system has some practical merits but his attempts at creating moral justifications are completely pathetic and nonsensical. how low do you have to be to have to make up bullshit "oughts" when you can just say "it would be fucking better"?
HURD just got sound support 2016!!!!!!!!
stallman admits HURD will never get anywhere and is a failure because of his philsophical mind set
>shill
And what degree do you have friend?
comptia A+?
gnu was one of MANY userlands avalible at the time, if it didnt exist, one of the other would have been used.
Stallman has NOTHING to his name in the past 30 years.
>>55555259
>>55555276
the guy couldn't even complete a fucking kernel
god i hate you unironic stallmanfags, /g/ was so much better when everyone made fun of him
>>55554946
BASED MICROSOFT
>>55554946
Pic related: that's all the people who care.
>>55555300
let's not forget that stallman is legitimately threatened by clang/llvm simply because we finally have a viable GCC alternative
he's that egotistic
>Linux-fags already happy about fricking Skype
Can someone explain me what is this Linux Alpha? Is it distro from MS?
>>55554946
fucking took them 34583498 years ffs
>>55555361
>viable
>slow as fuck
>can't compile shit
>API changes every microversion release
>nowhere near as portable
lmao butthurt
linux fags, please
28 posts in and there's not a single Discord shill, what the fuck is going on
>>55555145
HUEs are brazillians who speak portuguese. None of those institutions are HUE
>>55555410
>>>/v/ is elsewhere.
>>55555145
Hue universities are dogshit (be in in spain or in brezil), so they send out honorary phd's to pretty much anybody to try to get their name out there (lol).
>>55555403
explain to me why he's so scared of it then
>>55555464
Won what? A pajeet's dick in his ass?
>>55554946
penny rose benny baby
>>55555410
What Discord autists don't get is that people outside their circle of gaming friends actually video chat too (and this new Skype will support it on Linux soon ).
>>55555403
>>55555469
oh and keep in mind he intentionally designed GCC like shit just because "muh proprietary frontends"
>>55555457
American universities are great, aren't they?
>take loan to study for 4 years and pay for the rest of your life
>entire SJW departments
>symbolic degrees outside of a few selected elite schools
>>55555300
>stallman admits HURD will never get anywhere and is a failure because of his philsophical mind set
When did he say that? I'm curious. All I remember him saying is that the Linux kernel came faster than HURD because it was still having trouble.
>>55554946
Skype is literally a surveillance tool now
>>55555658
http://www.pcworld.com/article/88464/article.html
https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd/status.html
http://mjesec.ffzg.hr/~dpavlin/stallman2006/free_software_movement_and_the_future_of_freedom_zagreb_09_march_2006.ogg
http://fsfeurope.org/documents/rms-fs-2006-03-09.en.html
http://www.redditblog.com/2010/07/rms-ama.html
>>55555580
>GCC
>shit
Keep in mind this compiler is recommended in countless books on programming and intro courses to compilers. It being free software means it's been ported and supported on almost every architecture out there.
>>55554946
People still use skype?
>>55555362
We've had Skype for a while. But it was x86 only and had a small chance of working correctly on every machine.
>>55555727
Keep in mind times change and software is made absoulete.
Keep in mind there are alternatives to gcc, that replicate it verbaitem, without stallman owning your product.
>>55555727
>it's free and ported everywhere xD
fuck off, broken record
i wish i could find the thread, but it was about AST, where he flat out ADMITS that they crippled GCC on purpose
>>55554946
>caring about skype now
holy fucking shit why?
the most bloated piece of shit on earth
you could literally just use web.skype.com and not have to deal with installing microsoft's resource hog and ad revenue adventure
>>55555738
>skype still uses people?
FTFY
>>55555800
Skype is the most used video chat program in the world, friendless autist.
(And support for video calls is coming to Linux soon, according to the announcement)
>>55555738
You live under a rock?
It's pretty heavily used.
It comes with windows now too which automatically makes it one of the most used communication apps by normies worldwide.
>2016
>Using Skype
Skype has been shit for years now. There are so many things wrong with it I don't even know where to begin.
- Terrible sound quality when compared to alternatives
- Ads, some of them being shifty af since my anti-virus constantly blocks them
- Riddled with hackers and scammers since 2 years now. They still haven't done shit about bots spamming friend requests to everyone.
- Bloated software with tons of useless features.
Ye Skype is literally worst communicator I've ever used and yet somehow they've managed to have complete monopoly in casual market.
>>55555917
Tell me how many friends are going to install some unknown software that is broken that only lets them talk to YOU.
>>55555935
None, I'm using myself cuz anything else is too complicated to my parents. Still for the "free as in freedom" board who defends shitty hardware like AMD you guys sure as fuck love to choke on Skype's dick.
>>55555903
t. microsoft employee.
>>55555958
I'm not a freetard, i despise them.
Skype has been here for over a decade, there is nothing you can do about it.
Its like bitching about a rusty rake in your asshole, instead of taking it out, you'd rather bitch about it instead.
>>55555077
>B.S Physics from Harvard
>M.Sc. Physics from MIT
Forgot a couple there, bucko
>>55556008
Show me anything he has used those degrees for.
Oh wait, he never used them.
He is a failure at life and mooching and piggybacks over others.
>>55555968
I ain't endorsing it, I'm just stating facts.
Literally everyone I know uses it, even my fucking tech illiterate parents use it, it's pretty much the internet phone to them.
None of them are gonna switch to something else.
>>55555781
>without stallman owning your product.
You can't own free software.
>>55556024
>>55555077
>>55555209
>>55555300
gcc, GNU and emacs. Let me know when you'll do something comparable to at least one of those.
>>55556130
yes, all of which he did about 30 years ago and hasn't done anything for in 20 years
these also do not constitute a fully functioning GNU Operating System™
>>55556130
>>55556141
and by the way, have you actually SEEN the code for these?
it's awful in every fucking way, i cringe a bit if i think there's even a slight bit of GNU software on my computer
Read this assholes bashing GNU and stallman.
http://weev.livejournal.com/409835.html
>>55556163
>taking weev seriously
you're only making yourself look dumber
>>55556038
whats nsa gonna do nigger watch me jerk off on 4chan?
>>55555145
>Peru
>Argentina
>HUE
Fucking muricas retards.
>>55556141
You know that he has crippling RSI because of the modern keyboards, right?
Don't start with the whole "that's because of emacs" shit - on the keyboards emacs was designed on Ctrl was on the place where the modern Alt is.
>>55556156
You can bet that I fucking did. I use emacs, and that's a fucking software marvel; Also, GNU tools are among the faster available. Don't know about gcc though, because fuck C.
>>55556179
the fastest*. fuck my keyboard, probably will give RSI to me too
>>55556170
>Disregarding it because weev typed it
That's called ad hominem asshole
>>55556179
>You know that he has crippling RSI because of the modern keyboards, right?
that's not a fucking excuse
>You can bet that I fucking did.
>because fuck C.
again, have you actually SEEN the code, then?
take a fucking look at GNU's true.c and keep in mind that all it's supposed to do is return 0, then compare it to literally any other implementation
>>55556204
yes i'll believe the sociopathic compulsive lying man who only lives to troll people and is also an edgy odinist
>>55556231
Weev is a successful troll that has done some very funny things, but you cannot disregard what he says because of it.
>>55554946
I can not send messages. Does anybody have the same Problem?
>>55556278
so you mean i should also start listening to justin bieber because he praises him with the same fervor that he praises stallman with on his livejournal?
weev did this to himself
>>55556313
I'm getting that too. Do all of your contacts and then yourself get show as offline after a little bit?
>>55556231
not seeing a problem with it. ~20 lines are comments, the other ones recognize the --help and the --version options, telling what the fuck does the function do. Seem like a couple of good practices here, - something that you probably have never seen in your entire life. Remember, one of the most important qualities of the code is its readability and documentation. It's made for humans to read, and only occasionally - for the computers, to be executed.
Now go back to your fizzbuzz, stud.
>>55556340
What does Justin Bieber have to do with stallman or weev?
Also, about the prison sentence weev had to go through, he was unfairly imprisoned by the jews. Weev did nothing malicious and they threw him in jail anyways, just for warning them about an exploit he discovered.
>>55556365
>GNUtards literally need a --help switch for true.c
lmao
but really, what i mean to say is if they can't even get true.c right, imagine all the other stuff
emacs is a mess of #ifdefs
inb4 you also justify the fact that it replaces false.c despite the name, which makes no fucking sense at all
are you gonna defend GNU info too?
>>55556401
http://weev.livejournal.com/416532.html
>jews
epik xD
and keep in mind that probably the only reason he was sentenced is because he made a comment on reddit where he flat out threatened that company, and they used that against him in court
but yeah keep sucking his dick
>>55556449
I'm not saying weev is a saint, but I am saying you're unfairly disregarding it because it's weev.
>>55554946
>SKYPE
botnet
>>55556406
True.c needed switches is in all likelihood a standardized thing. It would look funky with 99% of the programs having --help and --version and the rest not.
Uh, I'm pretty sure I've had "full" Skype on Linux for a while.
Also, what's up with OP's thumbnail picture?
>>55554946
>NOT WEB WRAP
except it is
>>55556342
It's works for me now.
>>55556590
Is it another Chromium + Coffeescript?
>>55556231
Also
>that's not an excuse
Do you even know what RSI is? You're almost unable to move your wrist without feeling pain. Write another 20 years of code, maybe you'll know more about it.
>>55556406
It's not about the GNUtards, it's about setting up a standard. Every function has a --help and --version, is well-documented - so even the fucking true.c that has to return 0 must respect those standards too. You've never seen a large application in your life, evidently.
>emacs is a mess of #ifdefs
it has a couple, but bear in mind the number of architecture/OS/other shit that program is compatible with. Reminder that emacs was written before you fuckers were even in your daddy's balls.
>>55556518
this guy gets it
>the shitty interface I declined to install on Windows only to have it forced on me is now coming to Linux with ads and replacing the already completely fine interface the Linux Skype had
wow...
>>55556663
Except the Linux Skype has been useless for a long time.
>>55556703
Literally the only thing it hasn't been able to do is video calls
>>55556725
I've never had issues with videocalls over skype with the linux client though?
>>55556742
Then I guess it does everything
Skype is a piece of shit.
>>55555800
Because people actually use it?
>>55556605
i guess so, it definitely looks like a webapp.
desu the old skype works have a much better interface. waste of space everywhere.
>>55554946
This is truly the start of the linux age, once linux gets MS Office, normies will start coming to linux by the droves.
>>55556605
Yeah, it's an Electron app.
>>55555464
>American software engineer
Triggered
>>55554946
>>55556590
>>55556817
This desu senpai
>WE"VE MADE A NEW SKYPE FOR LOONIX, IT"S TOTALLY NOT A WEBAPP!
>it's actually a webapp
>it's worse than ghetto skype
Fuck Microsoft honestly
>>55555022
Stallman is a pedophile enabler fyi...
Maybe they can get around to unfucking the windows version then?
Ghetto Skype shills on suicide watch
>>55556941
It integrates nicely with your Linux native features (systray, notifications, video and audio options etc.), cocklicker.
Also, >>55557003
HAHAHA GHETTO SKYPE OWNER JUST GOT OFFERED A JOB BY MICROSOFT
FUCK YOU OPEN SOURCE RETARDS
>>55556173
all south america is HUE, what's your point?
I preferred the old skype for linux's interface. This one looks like a smartphone 'app' and doesn't fit with the rest of the desktop. I probably wouldn't hate it so much if it included a 'dark theme'
>>55556179
His RSI wasn't from "modern" keyboards. The keyboards he used were simply too tight and hard to press down that they were damaging the nerves in the ends of his fingers and the tendons and muscles throughout his hand. New keyboards aren't like that.
>>55555785
I would like a source on this
>>55557588
https://lwn.net/Articles/629259/
i THINK this is it?
if not you can probably google "stallman clang" and maybe find some info there
>>55555738
Retards use it because it's advertised, although it's probably the worst chat app in existence.
>1GB/h bandwidth use even without video chatting
>shitty quality, constant connection losses
>surveillance
>>55555917
- Terrible sound quality when compared to alternatives
Compared too what alternatives? Tbh, the only reason I havent moved over too discord is becaus it has way suckier soundquality than Skype.
>>55554954
>EXTEND
>EMBRACE
>EXTINGUISH
Do you even know what that means?
>>55558486
It means
EXTEND
EMBRACE
EXTINGUISH
wait is there no arch support?
>>55558718
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/skypeforlinux-bin
here m8
>tfw more or less forced to use skype because everyone you know uses it
>200-500mb of memory at any given time
>Messages spontaneously take a year and a half to send/recieve
>Crashes if you screenshare or have a camera up for more than an hour
>Terrible bubbly normy shit fuck GUI that takes up way too much space
>Has no option to enable autoscroll when you recieve messages in an inactive window
Skype is just a nonstop fucking waterfall of shit seeping garbage, I had to backup/delete all of my chat history because every time I would get a call, change an image, swap the user I'm talking to, basically anything, the entire client would freeze for up to 15 seconds at a time and sometimes for good until I restarted it. Calls drop constantly, sometimes a group call is going and it automatically hangs you up until you restart the call itself three fucking times, and video never displays for some people.
Every single fucking week theres a new issue with it, and its always worse than the last one. Only two days ago I started to have this issue where anytime I call a single specific person, or they call me, skype instantly crashes. There is literally nothing good about this shit client, I hope the Linux users don't suffer too much from all the garbage "features" in the current releases.
>>55556024
>t: uneducated NEET who lives in mommy's basement
>>55556903
He lives in the US and has full citizenship. Thus he's American.
>>55557059
hahaha wtf
>open source it and it'll contribute to it.
>nah, we'll just pay you. want a job?
>>55557269
You're a plebbitor and a newfag.
>Is just a web app
kek, sure Linux, enjoy your barebones Skype
>>55554946
About fucking time
>>55556156
>cringe a bit if i think there's even a slight bit of GNU software
literally autism
>>55556808
Do you really believe that? Microsoft will first embed that debian-based OS, then assimilate it and add gnu features to their OS. The skype non wrapped version is to see if it can fit nicely in windows once they take it off shuttleworth's hands so he can use the money they give him to go back into space.
>>55554946
>using skype
fuck man, I am on /g/ right?
>>55555152
That's because they're fuck ups these days. They get as far as embrace, but the the market has moved and they have to start again
>half my groups aren't showing up
This is a uh feature right?
Also, why is it so fucking big.
I'll just stick with the old one.
>>55558172
>>1GB/h bandwidth use even without video chatting
Bullshit. I don't have exact numbers, but my Skype uses at most 100MB/h without video chatting. Probably much less.
>>shitty quality, constant connection losses
Works on my machine.
>>surveillance
This is true though.
>>55560618
>werks on my machine meme
Mine was around 230MB/h, 112 in 28 minutes actually, the only time I checked when chatting with only 1 person. But since I usually chat with more people it does go to almost 1GB in an hour.
>>55559792
Sauce
>>55554946
>SKYPE
fuck off
>>55558769
I'd be more pissed off at the software engineer part. Torvalds has stopped coding long ago
>>55555760
care to elaborate? no bait pls
>>55560908
>>55554954
At least get the order right, how would you extend without first embracing?
>>55555464
>Implying Linus made GNU/Linux
>>55555410
discord sucks balls m8
>>55561391
>Jayline spotted
>>55560823
Sacred Journey
Look it up on xvideos
>>55554946
I would've preferred a cheap chrome app to a full-on desktop client. skype just isn't that important
>>55554946
>linuxfags are excited for an app that's been on other OS for 5 years
What's the point of using such an irreelevant system?
>>55556903
reeee perkele
>>55555464
Based Linus
>>55555022
>https://stallman.org/skype.html
>What to use instead? The most obvious alternative is a long-distance phone card. They are quite cheap nowadays, and they work with any phone.
Stallman is honestly retarded.
>>55561505
surely he got more credits and popularity than Stallman, at least between normies, sadly
>>55563637
nowadays you can use Telegram as alternative
>>55561659
My thoughts exactly. Why even use Skype when it's so completely unnecessary?
>>55563933
Skype is trash but I still use it. Why? Because I have 100+ contacts that don't use any other platform other than fb or whatsapp.
>>55554946
It's been there since like 3 years or something.
What's this thread about?
Are you guys blind? Retarded eyes?
>>55558752
>200-500mb of memory
>>55563967
Pretty much this.
I hate skype with a burning passion.
It's slow, it's fucking bloated as shit and it has ads (and some have been malicious..). Not surprised this shit uses so much resources when I'm in a call...
Why do I use it? Because I don't have the heart to tell my non-tech friends to use Mumble or telegram or anything else. Also, job interviews and business contacts...apparently Skype for business is a thing and is used widely.
I know how you feel anon.
>>55554946
>I'm dying
i'm unsure how to interpret that.
>>55554946
>bloated software
>filled with ads
>absolute shit voice codecs
>nonfree
>botnet even
Why woudl you ever use skype
I don't get why people can't just use proper standards like SIP and XMPP
>>55565579
>>55565955
>Why isn't everyone in the world as tech savvy as me REEEEEEEEE
>>55561483
you extend your arms first so you can reach it to embrace it
>>55554946
There is a development team working to get all the Mac apps including FaceTime to work on Linux.
>>55558172
there is no viable alternative to skype
Is there a way to filter messages from someone in a group chat?
>>55554946
"Skype requires the use of a client program that is not free software; in other words, the users don't control it — it controls them."
- It's okay when I steal it.
>>55554954
BUZZWORDS
INCORRECTLY USED
BY A RETARD
>>55566138
for pure VOIP, discord is better, however you don't get camera or screen sharing
>>55563967
Even Facebook messenger is better desu, haven't used their browser calls option tho.
Is it Open-Sourced?
No?
GTFO!
>>55556231
>again, have you actually SEEN the code, then?
What's the problem with it? Other than the atrocious GNU style, I see none. All it does is set up locale, handle some command line arguments and returns EXIT_SUCCESS.
If you want to see true shitcode then take a look at vim's code, which I'm sure you use.
>mfw Linux fags use Skype
.. man even I don't install this piece of shit and I'm a Windows user..
>>55565955
What's a good XMPP client for Windows?
>>55569196
This. And I don't understand these idiots, they scream windows 10 is bad because of botnet (desu it really is) but then install a program which is a part of the "botnet".
>>55555457
>Hue universities are dogshit
they are, but it seems americans are even worse because people keep talking about the list as if it included brazilian universities.
>reaffirming our commitment to the Linux community.
Holy shit skype. Fuck you so much.
>using Skype
>>55555847
>And support for video calls is coming to Linux soon
You what?
I already had video calls.
>>55562256
almost took the bait
>>55554946
>skype
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